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| do want to add to what Alderman Thibeault said. San Francisco Kitchen got no PPE. They got none of that stuff
because they could not prove that they had any revenue because they bought it just as COVID hit. They had no earnings.
So therefore they had no losses as far as the COVID monies and all that was concerned. So the one business, at least
one of the businesses downtown, that did not get any of that leg up, or a hand up, or whatever you want to call it was San
Francisco Kitchen and | don't think we should continue to hurt them over and over again when we can do this compromise
of putting a handicapped spot there. We're only taking one extra space from what we just approved. That's it. One
space is what's being affected by this. They don't lose a 15 minute parking and they gain a dedicated handicapped spot.

| think this is a win/win all around. So thank you very much.

Alderman Cathey

Thank you, Madam Chair. Gosh this is not an easy topic to figure out. There's a lot of variables at play, but to make my
job more easy, | like to stay in my lane and as a city we can only give so much. We're only allowed by law to do so much
and I'm not going to authorize barriers here, barriers there when | or we haven't heard on the record from a property
owner because | think it creates too much confusion. It's just not something that we should be doing. I'd rather have a set
plan before we lay down barriers and get permission from the property owner about what we're going to do. | think doing
it ahead of time is short of putting the cart before the horse and it's sort of arbitrary and so for that reason just on
procedural grounds, I'm not going to support it because I'd rather know for sure what we're doing moving forward. Thank
you.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN DOWD TO MOVE THE QUESTION
MOTION CARRIED

President Wilshire

So we are considering now Alderman Klee’s amendment.

Alderman Cathey

Roll call.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN KLEE TO AMEND TO RETURN TWO FULL SPACES IN FRONT OF 127 MAIN STREET
(SAN FRANCISCO KITCHEN) AND SHORTENING THE LENGTH OF THE BARRIERS ON THE NORTHWEST
CORNER AT FACTORY STREET AND MAIN STREET BY 20 FEET FROM THE NORTH SIDE AND RETURNING
THOSE TWO SPACES; AND ALSO IN ADDITION TO ALLOW THAT BEYOND THE TWO SPACES THAT ONE BEA
DEDICATED AND SIGNED HANDICAPPED SPOT TO BE PLACED IN FRONT OF THE WINGATE PROPERTY AS
WELL AS TO MOVE THE 15 MINUTE PARKING BEHIND THAT, BY ROLL CALL

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderman Moran, Alderman Lopez,
Alderman Clemons, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Comeau, Alderman Dowd,
Alderman Thibeault, Alderwoman Timmons, Alderman Wilshire 11

Nay: Alderman Sullivan, Alderman Jette, Alderman Gouveia, Alderman Cathey 4

MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MORAN FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-22-022 AS AMENDED

Alderwoman Kelly

| wanted to start by thanking Alderwoman Klee for bringing forward a compromise. | think that this whole exercise has
been, you know, compromise and listening to the downtown. | know that | probably have a unique experience. Most of
the people who will sit on this Board do not go to downtown 9 to 5 Monday through Friday and | have really done the
homework in terms of talking to the business owners. Every time | walk around to get lunch, we have some discussions.

| think had been uncharacteristically quiet on this. | wanted to really listen and let the committee's do their work. | think
there's been a lot of pros and cons. | feel both sides of that every day in my work and being downtown. | think that where
we have landed is right for the downtown. | think there's been a lot of deliberation, a lot of public input, and that

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compromise. We really have listened to many of the businesses who had concerns and these amendments have
addressed as many as we really could. Is it perfect? No but I'm a recovering perfectionist so | think if you wait for perfect,
you're gonna get in the way of progress. So | think this is the right way forward for now and | really want to see us as a
city continue to look at how this becomes more of a permanent cultural shift for our downtown and what that looks like.

So | I'm looking forward to voting yes on this and | encourage the rest of the Aldermen to do so as well.

Alderman Gouveia

Thank you, Madam President. This was definitely a lot of spirited debate and discussion between both the Task Force
and members of the community. We came up with a plan and is it perfect, no. At the end of the day, | personally can't
support it still due to the fact that we're talking about $115,000 estimated that this will cost and we're not going to recover
a dime from it from any of the businesses that are going to be utilizing it. | can't get myself to say that's right. We had
compromised throughout the program and it was good to see that it could happen. We went through the procedure but at
the end of the day, | can't get myself to go to my Ward who most of them are honestly indifferent on the issue and tell
them that they're going to have to foot the bill on this as much as everybody else. | just can't find it inside me to vote yes
for it and I'm also a lot like Alderwoman Kelly. I'm downtown five days a week. | work for a downtown business. I’m
based right off of Main Street. It's tough now with parking and you put these barriers in, | don't know what it's going to be
like once the barriers go in. So we'll see. | think it will just be played for as we keep going through but as of right now, |
just can't support it at all.

Alderman Dowd

Yes through you to Alderman O’Brien - the king of the House up there. When restaurants and businesses downtown
make more money, they pay business profits tax is that correct?

Alderman O’Brien

That is correct.
Alderman Dowd
And part of the business profits tax comes back to the city. Is that correct?

Alderman O’Brien

That is correct.
Alderman Dowd

So they are paying. That's a misnomer that they're paying nothing. The city is getting money back for their expanded
business and that goes for regular stores as well as restaurants. So that is not true. They are paying.

Alderman Thibeault

Thank you, Madam President. | think we're at a point now we're trying to figure out where Nashua is going to go.
Someone had mentioned earlier, you know, evolving and changing as a city and I've heard people say that they like being
either the gate city or a quainter city. | think we honestly we’re right in the middle where are we going to go and evolve as
a city or are we gonna go backwards a little bit? Some of us who have been around here a long time know when Main
Street was not flourishing and that it took restaurants to bring it back. You know, and Michael Buckley of Michael
Timothy's has done a lot of helping get that back. Martha's who's been here way before my time, | believe, you know, |
love going down to Main Street. 30 years took my first drink at Martha's.

So it's definitely something that | want to see evolve, and grow, and change, and the only way to do that is to look forward.
You have to start somewhere and | think this is the start of seeing if something like this works and to see how we're going
to evolve it in the future with the Master Plan. Main Street, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither is going to be Nashua’s
Main Street. So | think we got to keep moving forward. Someone spoke about moral courage. | think on both sides you
could say that because | know on the other side, we're gonna get hit with e-mails, yelling at us for our vote whether we
sided or didn't side with it. So | don't blame anybody for voting on either side because they're going to get the same
pressure that I'm going to get from people out there too because not 100% of my constituents are for or against barriers,
right.

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Speaking of moral courage, my mother is against this 100% and she would kill me for my vote as a Nashua citizen that
she is. | hope she's in bed and she's not watching this because | will get a call. It will probably be about 60 minutes
tomorrow yelling at me for my vote, but | am going to support this. Thank you.

Alderman Gouveia

Thank you, Madam President. With all due respect to my colleague in Ward 2, yeah sure you might get more tax but
there's nothing to prove that we're gaining more money from that tax that would be there if the barriers weren't there.
Would people still be coming downtown to eat? Yeah, | think so. | do. | don't feel people are coming just downtown.
They eat in expanded dining. Part is okay but full is better and when you can pay off something in full and it doesn't affect
the taxpayer, | think that's better.

We're in year three now. We've now in year three going to start talking about what fees are going to look like for this
project when really it should have been looked at last year. I'll give a break on the first year because that was real COVID
innovation. | think it was a great idea. In atime where restaurants were in a full capacity, it was absolutely brilliant to
accomplish something like this to make sure it can still happen. We're now in year three and | think we need a fee scale.

| think it's long overdue before | cannot still support this. Thank you.

Alderman Lopez

| want to request a roll call and make a quick comment.

As this goes, | think a lot of the pressure really speaks to how downtown is used. There's this four lanes, bad two lanes,
or four lanes good, two lanes bad mentality. | think | miss quoting Animal Farm but we do have to look at pedestrian use
in downtown as a factor. It was commented multiple times by members of the public like | don't even know why we have
the midpoint crossings. Those can go away. | mean when you have four lanes, you really need the midpoint crossing if
you are the pedestrian and we've had a number of pedestrians that have been injured, or hurt, and we've even had a
couple of car accidents that have been trying to avoid people over the years. | think the midpoint crossings have done a
lot to mitigate. The Fire Department is a little famously said they prefer to not have them there in case they needed to
pass through that section. The Fire Department will also respond in an extremely timely manner on Ash Street, for
example, which is a one way street and does remarkable response times throughout most of the downtown area. So |
think it is important to consider that yes, outdoor dining is the current use that's being looked at but our city's master
planning and our overall plans for how downtown is going to be used does need to adjust for the fact that people in cars
shouldn't be in the same place unless they're in the cars. When you have outdoor dining, the barriers that are keeping the
cars from encroaching on the diners are an obvious and important safety concern when you look at the national trend of
the last couple of years of cars driving through crowds. That's an unfortunate reality and that's why the Traffic Department
insists on those barriers.

But they also reflect how people use Main Street because they are referred to as barriers mostly by people who are
driving through and see the outside of them. They are referred to as extended outdoor dining by people who are inside
the barriers enjoying shows, getting to see each other, listening to music, all that kind of stuff. So | would encourage
people in Nashua on either side of the issue to use the outdoor dining if it is approved tonight period because if it is an
amenity that is going to be there, it's also a different way to experience downtown. It's also a different way to use the
spaces that we have and as the owner of SFK commented in her own comment, they're welcoming. The restaurants want
to have you there. They want to see and they're an opportunity for you to see others too. That's | think ultimately what we
need to decide in terms of downtown whether we’re using it to travel or whether we're using it as a destination. Thank
you.

Alderman Comeau

Yes, thank you, Madam President. It will probably not come as a surprise to anyone in this room that | cannot support this
legislation for a number of reasons. First and foremost, we use the word “compromise” a lot and based on the definition, |
suppose this is a compromise. But | look at the work that the Task Force did, you know, over the course of probably over
20 hours when you add it all up, and then you multiply that by the number of people involved, and that's a lot of man
hours. The end result of that now with this amendment is basically that we picked a paint color. So that's the result of all
that work.

I'm reminded of | joke with my kids. They said they wanted a cat and | said no. So we compromised and cat's name is

Gizmo. You know, there's people that wanted to come up with a plan that involved four lanes of travel. The city wanted
two lanes of travel. So we compromised and got two lanes travel. There were people that wanted no barriers. The city
wanted 100% barriers. So we compromised and got 95% barriers. There was a growing contingent of people that

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wanted the window shrunk to Memorial Day to Labor Day and the city wanted the first of May to the middle of October.
So we compromise and cut two weeks off of the end. 5% decrease or something like that. So yeah, this is a compromise
but it's not much of a compromise.

There's more we could have done. It was suggested that businesses should be able to pay for the space. Some of the
people said that they shouldn't. So we compromised and they're paying nothing. So it hardly seems like much of a
compromise at all. So for those reasons, | can't support this unless more significant changes are made to it.

Alderman Klee

Thank you, Madam President. I'm gonna go backwards from the last speaker to - | think that was disingenuous and |
know you meant it a joke Alderman Comeau that only the paint color was picked. You can look right at what Director
Cummings has said. Yes through my amendment | did undo that particular area of the 20 feet, but | did add the
handicapped parking space. They added two spaces back to 100 Main Street. They removed the barriers at 105 West
Pearl Street. They removed the variable message board sign and | believe that was a very long conversation as well as
removing the orange barrels everywhere using the alternate channelizing devices as needed. And yes, paint the barrier
red brick color and install reflective white tape everywhere. So | think to say that all that work because of one thing that
was taken out was reduced and that was very unkind for a committee that you are on as well as others.

I'd also like to say that | absolutely 100% agree with Alderman Gouveia that we should have done this earlier. At this
point, we should be doing that. The truth is, it was the sitting Board of Aldermen’s fault for putting it off and for saying,
let's look at it more. We literally kicked the can down the road. So you're absolutely right. We should have, we didn't,
and now we are where we are here. So to your point, | absolutely agree with it.

As far as will people come, | can tell you that | have a colleague up in the State House whose daughter goes to Rivier
College. She's an athlete there and they come to games. He called me one day and said to me, oh my god, | love your
extended downtown dining. He was at Martha's. They were sitting in the street and he lives in Hampton. He is a State
Rep. and a Selectman there. He was just blown away by it. He's told four of his friends who have now come to Nashua.
So | don't believe build it and they will come but word of mouth will spread. If you're in this area, you gotta check it out.

So | do think it will bring more attention to Nashua. God knows we're getting a lot of attention on the negative side,
probably from all this going back and forth and so on. | do think that is the case and I'm proud of our downtown. I've been
here now for 37 years | think and I, too, have seen a lot of changes just in that 37 years long before you were born and |
still think you're just graduating from high school but anyways, I'll put that aside.

The thing is | have seen a lot of changes. | do believe that when Michael Buckley, and when Martha's became alive, and
Fodie’s went all the way to the other end, we had restaurants coming in and out and so on. When Villa Blanca left in the
middle of the night and Fratello’s came in and saved us for that. They did that because they knew it was a vibrant kind of
building. | know Fratello’s had made some rather unkind comments on their way out but the truth is, the restaurant that's
there now, | think, Felicimo, wouldn't have come if they felt that Nashua didn't have something to offer. So | do think it's
not a building and they will come. | do think there will be word of mouth and | do think this is a positive step forward. |
think there has been a lot of compromise. | think we continue to do compromise. So thank you.

Alderman Moran

Thank you, Madam President. Just a couple of things. So | wholeheartedly believe that fees need to be charged and |
think it was a risk benefit of the fact that it's going to be so short to implementation that we couldn't get enough restaurants
on board with for what the fee would be. We need the city to develop a fee schedule, etc. to come back to the Board and
we'd just delay it further. So it was a risk benefit on why we took that action.

I'll tell you, I'll be the first Alderman that submits an ordinance to rescind this if we don't have fees in place by the next year
two because | do believe we need to pay for that extra space. | do think it's a bit disingenuous just to say that we should
have took an action further, quicker. | mean | think the executive branch got a good taste that this Board is different than
the previous boards and that we have a lot of differing opinions and that gives each single Alderman a chance to insert
their opinion whether they support this or not. No matter who votes on this at the end, everyone had a piece to suggest
on this compromise plan. There was information taken in to make this plan palatable to a wider population. So | think that
we should have our ability to do our job despite the previous Board kicking the can to this Board. Thank you.

Alderman Lopez

Can | move to question?

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MOTION BY ALDERMAN LOPEZ TO MOVE THE QUESTION
MOTION CARRIED

MOTION BY ALDERMAN MORAN FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-22-022 AS AMENDED, BY ROLL CALL

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderman Moran, Alderman Lopez,
Alderman Jette, Alderman Clemons, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd,
Alderman Thibeault, Alderwoman Timmons, Alderman Wilshire 11

Nay: Alderman Sullivan, Alderman Comeau, Alderman Gouveia,
Alderman Cathey 4

MOTION CARRIED
Ordinance O-22-008 declared duly adopted as amended.

NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-22-023
Endorsers: Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
RELATIVE TO THE ADOPTION OF THE NASHUA ARTS AND CULTURAL PLAN
Given its first reading; Assigned to the PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE and NASHUA
PLANNING BOARD by President Wilshire

R-22-024
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess

Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman John Sullivan
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Alex Comeau
Alderman Tyler Gouveia
Alderman John Cathey
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire

APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NASHUA

BOARD OF POLICE COMMISSIONERS AND THE NASHUA POLICE PATROLMAN’S ASSOCIATION FROM JULY

1, 2022 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2026

Given its first reading; Assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-22-025
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.

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Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO APPLY FOR AND EXPEND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
(“CDBG”) AND HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023
Given its first reading; Assigned to the HUMAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-22-026
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess

Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons

AUTHORIZING FIRST AMENDMENTS TO DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS FOR BRONSTEIN REDEVELOPMENT
Given its first reading; Assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

NEW BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O0-22-011
Endorsers: Alderman Alex Comeau
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman John Sullivan
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Tyler Gouveia
Alderman John Cathey
AMENDING THE ZONING MAP BY REZONING LAND SITUATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF LAKE STREET AND
WEST OF PINE STREET FROM LOCAL BUSINESS (LB) TO LOCAL BUSINESS WITH MIXED USE OVERLAY
DISTRICT (LB/MU)
Given its first reading; Assigned to the PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, NASHUA
PLANNING BOARD, and SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MAY 17, 2022 PLANNING AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIG COMMENT

Karen Bill

Karen Bill, 95 Parnell Place. | think you've done a great disservice to the residents of Nashua. | agree with the Aldermen
that said during the pandemic was one thing. Last year - I'm sure somebody probably thought that at some point in time
the pandemic would be done and there should have been forethought in this governing body about discussions about
where Nashua should go. There's a whole great article, again, on - oh what's the word? Their bollards — b-o-I-l-a-r-d-s
that Cincinnati took down their barriers and went with these bollards because barriers are so ugly. So you can look it up.
If you Google it, it'll come up.

To have only fox in your hen house - nobody outside of Main Street. Michael Timothy's. Laurie Ortolano brought you
numbers. Surf - $750,000. Show me how much more they paid in business tax please Alderman Dowd? Honestly.
Martha’s - over half a million. MTs - $666,000. We, the residents, and taxpayers, and renters because rents go up when
taxes go up. We have paid for that. We. Would you do it on Daniel Webster Highway? You probably think oh my god,
what crazy person would think that? Think about it.

Safety. Somebody living in Mary's house, excuse me while I'm speaking now, you point it out.

President Wilshire

No you don't get to do that.

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Karen Bill

You pointed out when other people do it. Somebody living in Mary's house on the third floor doesn't have the same rights
as somebody sitting in a restaurant because when the ambulance is a minute later and they're dead, or two minutes later,
and the stroke is permanent, yeah, let's have those conversations at that point.

$617 last year for one barrier. Okay. The costs went up last year. That was two years ago. $688 last year for one
barrier. These restaurants should have had a plan for this year if you were going to do any barriers. And you who have
voted for this have done a great disservice to the residents of Nashua. I've been here for almost every single hour of
these meetings as well.

Craig Hermle

Craig Hermle, 12 Brittany Way, Nashua. I'm not against outdoor dining, however if a landlord or if a tenant said | want an
additional 500 square feet and didn't want to pay for it, | don't think that would happen and that's exactly what is
happening in downtown Nashua right now. Power to be or hats off to everybody that's making it work. | don't get
anything for nothing and | don't think anybody should be allowed it. Just because you're paying additional taxes for
something you sell isn't paying for the landscape or the square footage that you're utilizing.

A good compromise in my opinion would be to allow the dining on the sidewalks only this year. You've had three years to
figure out how much businesses should be paying. The compromise should be allow sidewalk walk dining and we'll
explore the expanded dining once we agree to a price upfront to allow businesses to flourish without having to pay for it at
my expense, at the taxpayer’s expense. It sounds great but there's been a heck of a lot more than just barrier removal
that's been involved in this process. | don't know how much your consultant cost that did his two day data points on
parking utilization, but that was a farce. How much did that cost? And the line items go on and on. Do it but please do it
properly and this is being rushed through and it shouldn't be. Thank you.

President Wilshire

That's all | have for public comment. You need to sign up when you come in for meeting.
Elizabeth Lu

Oh, sorry. | was late. Elizabeth Lu, 17 Roby Street. Just two things. After the passage of this barrier decision, |
wondered whether is there anything to stop a property owner whose tenants are not restauranteurs or bar owners is there
any way to stop them from renting this space in front of them to the highest bidder? If that were possible, that does not
seem like a good - seems like something we should have thought of.

Also the difficulty in deciding how much to charge. It was a lot to figure out working through that compromise. | don't
understand why the charge is difficult. If it would help, | mean, you could go with what income was derived from those
parking spaces the last year they were available and price it at that price so that the people who were using those parking
spaces are bringing in the same income that the parking space would Was that considered? That seems like a pretty
simple concept. So thank you.

Matthew Gouthro

Thank you. | wanted - this is Matthew Gouthro, 104 Fawn Lane. | wanted to use my time for this public comment to
express my concerns over the joint Task Force meetings on the proposed outdoor dining and how they were operated.
The attitude displayed by our elected officials of we know better than the taxpayers were never more discouraging than
having a sitting Alderman comment during the meeting that those who are opposed to outdoor dining were not concerned
about public safety in our historic downtown district. But these were the same malcontents that oppose the mask
mandate and their concern should be dismissed. Is this how our elected officials welcome civic engagement by our
residents?

Additionally, | need to express a concern where the Chair’s actions made it appear as if the job as a State official was
more important than the role of allowing public comment during the meeting as he openly campaigned in the meeting for a
motion to adjourn because he needed to be at the State House in the morning. This essentially silenced those residents
who waited hours during the meeting to speak. This selfish display was absolutely repugnant. The Chair chastised
several members of the public during the meeting telling them that their comments needed to be reserved for the general
comments portion of the meeting. I'm sure that that people who waited patiently for hours to speak had jobs and other
important things to attend to the next day. It was disappointing to hear that there wasn't time as the Chair prioritize his
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feel your role as a State official is more important and you have no time for public input or you can't balance the
responsibilities of the State of New Hampshire with the oath that you took as an Alderman of the city of New Hampshire in
Nashua, New Hampshire, you should resign plain and simple.

Madam Chair, | must say that | am proud of the professionalism displayed by those citizens who participated in this joint
committee, but the actions of some of our elected officials during this joint Task Force meeting in which you had the
opportunity to witness (inaudible), | can't help but feel that a refresher on ethics and empathy is surely needed for some
members of this dais. Thank you for your consideration of these concerns.

President Wilshire

Thank you.
REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN

Alderman O’Brien

After that, | got nothing.

President Wilshire

Okay, sounds good.
Alderman Klee

Thank you. | want to express my thankfulness to this Board and for the members of the public who both came out and
spoke as well as who sat on the Task Force. Everybody gave it their all. There were some that were more than polite
and some less but putting all that aside, | think in the end everybody got to have their voice heard and so on. But one of
the things that one of the meetings was someone turned around and said, when are we bringing the parades back? We
need to have the parades. We did have a parade and many of the Aldermen elect walked in that parade after the
election. The parades are coming back. We are going to have our outdoor events and so on and they have come back.
So | just wanted to clarify that and make sure that that that had been addressed. It was a long evening and | didn't
address it then.

Madam President, I'd like to send my condolences to my members up in the State House and to the family of
Representative Cathy Rogers who lost her battle. She was an amazing woman. Before | got elected, | met
Representative Rogers and she is a force of nature. When you talk to Kathy and she would find out where your passions
were, she found out that | love Greyhounds and the next thing | knew, | had animal advocates knocking on my door
asking me to help sponsor. | had never talked to them. | had never made that out loud and they dropped the name of
Representative Rogers. When Representative Rogers found out that my husband's sister had been murdered in cold
blood in a public street in Boston in front of her peers, in front of the nursing school at the age of 18, and that he had tried
to get into a VA hospital or mental health issues. The next knock on my door was from mental health advocates as well
as those that wanted a little bit more gun control. Kathy had a way of getting things out of you and so on. Saying no to
Kathy was very, very difficult. Very difficult. She did not take no for an answer. The one thing that amazed me more than
Kathy is she worked both sides of the aisle. She didn't care what your party was. She would work both sides of the
aisles. To her family and to my colleagues, she's going to be missed. | don't know President Wilshire if you serve with her
up there, but it's like she's been there for a very long time and she served from DC, to Concord, and every place in
between. Thank you.

Alderman Moran

Thank you, Madam President. | just want to wish all those who celebrate it Happy Easter this weekend and Happy
Passover. Lucky it coincides. So just wanted to wish all my fellow Christians a Happy Easter and my brothers and sisters
who are Jewish a Happy Passover.

Alderman Lopez

| wanted to thank Director Fauteux in Public Works. | noticed last week that they were doing a great job cleaning up the
Rail Trail, getting all the underbrush. Figured out they did some soil landscaping. At some point during the winter,
somebody put a glass table out across from St. Louis so people could put things out and | guess or stored or whatever.
Said glass table was broken at some point today and she had a DPW crew over there to clean it up within like an hour

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because | was obviously concerned that that Rail Trail being so popularly used is also used by a lot of kids, and a lot of
mothers with strollers, and a lot of people walking their dog. So | appreciate her timeliness. | appreciate in general
DPW’s patience in that area. The garbage fill up. There's a multiple volunteer groups that do brush cleanings and all that
kind of stuff and they're always there to lend a hand and be very supportive. | just wanted to express that appreciation.
Thank you.

Karen Bill
President Wilshire, you did not see this woman (inaudible)

President Wilshire

Do not speak out in this meeting. | will ask you to be removed from the meeting if you continue. There's a process here.
Karen Bill
You just didn’t see him when you put his hand up this gentleman (inaudible).

President Wilshire

Enough.

Alderman Clemons

Thank you Madam President.

President Wilshire

| wasn’t humiliating anyone. So why don't you please be quiet back there or leave? That's a good idea.

Alderman Clemons

Thank you, Madam President. | will make this very brief. | just wanted to wish everybody a Happy Easter and Happy
Passover. Thank you.

Alderwoman Kelly

I'd like to be brief as well, but | wanted to extend my condolences to Alderman Clemons and welcome him back. I'm sorry
for the loss of your father-in-law. | also wanted to thank Doria Brown and the Energy Environment Committee for the
event that we had before this long meeting. It seems like it was so many hours ago but it was a great update on what
we've been doing and we anticipate coming to the Board with some new recommendations and goals in the coming years.

Alderman Comeau

Yes thank you, Madam President. Just a couple of really quick things. Like Alderman Moran, I'd like to wish you a Happy
Easter and Passover to whoever celebrates either of those.

I'd like to encourage any citizens in Ward 6 who live in the neighborhoods around Pine Street and Lake Street if they so
wish to attend the Planning and Economic Development Committee meeting on May 17" for the public hearing around the
rezoning of the vacant lot across from the Lake Street garage.

Additionally although New Searles is not in my Ward for those of you might know Shay Patineau was a student at Nashua
South. He tragically lost his life in 2020. He was a football player. Among other things, a great teammate of my son and
a lot of other kids on the football team. On May 14th, the New Searles PTO is doing a Color Run to raise funds to install a
memorial bench in Shay's honor. There's a link if you're interested in signing up. It is incredibly long and complicated and
I'm not going to try to say it right now. | will share it to my Facebook page on my website if anyone's interested in
participating in that Color Run to raise funds for that. | think it's a great cause.

And then the last thing | wanted to mention not that | want to wade into the toxic waters of Facebook, but there was some
comments that were made to me that suggested that | have no right to have an opinion on the downtown barrier situation
because they don't exist in Ward 6 and because I'm a renter and not a homeowner in the City of Nashua. So | would just