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Board of Aldermen 12-23-2019 Page 14

So | think this has been planned out from a financial perspective, it's been planned out from a strategy
perspective as far as what the student population is going to be. Quite frankly that spot has been called for
a school for a very long time, since that development was created back in 1999.

With all of that said, | think this is the right move for Nashua and | am happy to support it for all of those
reasons.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

| would agree with Alderman Clemons and from 2004 when Alderman Clemons’ father and | were on the
School Board together, we were discussing Elm Street and portables and space that was not conducive to
the type of educational programming our students needed. So | think this is the time and we need to do it
across all of the middle schools so that everyone has an environment that supports the learning. If
members of the public have gone back and looked at all of the presentations around this project, there is
certainly a lot about the structure and the land. But underlying everything that is being addressed here, is
what is the educational opportunity to be like and kids aren’t sitting in desks anymore. We are looking at
opportunities for students to work in groups and interact in different ways than probably the ways we were
all encouraged to interact in middle school.

So it is great and | am sure Alderman Clemons’ father is thrilled to know that we are getting rid of portables
and we are upgrading structures for teachers and students, Thank you.

Alderman Jette

So | was on the Joint Special School Building Committee and we heard and the presentation that was
made by the architects and the construction manager was available to all of you and the public as well.
They made a compelling argument, well | think everybody acknowledged that Elm Street needed help and
has been pointed out, Pennichuck has those portables that are not appropriate. So there’s no question that
we have to do something. They looked at the cost of renovating Elm Street and determined that it would
cost more to do that. After we were done we would still have a school that was originally built in the ‘30’s
and we wouldn’t have any playing fields and it just would not be an ideal situation.

We can build a new school up to the standards of today with playing fields and so that all 3 schools will be
somewhat equitable for less money than it would cost to try to renovate Elm Street. | am in favor of this.
But | think that the people who spoke asked some legitimate questions about the cost and how it was going
to affect them. Alderman Clemons explained very well that the Committee asked Treasurer Fredette to
answer those questions. He did come up with an analysis that Alderman Clemons has explained. The
question he did not answer was how will this affect someone who owns a $300,000.00 house that was a
question that came up several times. | was out of town, so | couldn’t get back to Treasurer Fredette to ask
him. So | did my own calculation, this may be completely wrong, but | think it’s fairly accurate.

Given the cost that Treasurer Fredette told us it would cost us each year for this bond, if you divide that by
the valuation of all the property in town, | calculated that for a $300,000.00 house, depending on as
Treasurer Fredette explained, it depends on the interest rate. His analysis that was included in the
Resolution that we received started out at an interest rate of 3.5% but the last time we issued a bond it was
at 2.2% | believe. The financial people that | Know say that the rates for municipal bonds are at historic
lows. Nashua’s bonds are extremely attractive; so the chances are when these bonds are sold they are
probably going to be a lot less than 3.5, probably going to be closer to the 2.2 But if it is anything under 3%
my calculation says that if you own a $300,000.00 house, your share of this each year is going to be less
than $200.00.

That, as Alderman Clemons explained, because of the way we manage our bonds, it’s really not going to
cause an increase in the tax rate, but to be fair, if we paid off the current high school bonds and we didn’t
borrow this additional money, the tax burden would go down. So it is not going to go up, but assuming we
didn’t bond something else, like the Public Works Garage, so the chance of that happening are pretty slim.

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But for people who asked the question, what is my share if | own a $300,000.00 house what is my share of
this going to be? It is going to be less than $200.00. | hope that answers their questions and allays their
fears. But | support this.

Alderman Lopez

| just want to speak to Elm Street; the neighborhoods around it have outgrown it. There is a lot of
encroachment on people who are living there versus the teachers that are working there. | frequently field
the questions you know from landlords in the area, is there more parking available, can we work with on-
street parking? | mean nowhere, we can’t just produce surface area. So it is getting very crowded in that
area, it is a traffic problem. One of the most common issues that we hear are people coming in and out of
that street around school hours, either a danger to the kids that are crossing the street and walking to and
from their homes or they are full of kids and their parents picking them up. Then there is the whole
unsolvable issue for some reason kids are just drawn like magnets across Main Street to that Burger King.

So | think it was sooner or later going to have to just, from a neighborhood perspective be addressed.
Looking at the building structure and the building design, every year when we have the Veteran’s Day
Parade or the Memorial Day Parade, | have lunch with the veterans right after — and by the way, all of you
are invited to that. But every year they walk in and they’re like “OH | went to school here, it hasn’t changed
a bit”. That’s very nostalgic but like they went to school there awhile ago. So | think that building really has
outlived its usefulness. It definitely has done a great amount of service to Nashua but we need to start
thinking about how we can best have our students move forward with more modern education realities.
One of those realities is security; we need to update and upgrade the way we approach security in a way
that we can train for practical management in an emergency situation without terrifying kids and we have to
teach them what to do in an emergency. That is part of what is going into this building as well.

We have to address new realities with more and more kids presenting behavioral exceptions and different
learning needs. We need to acknowledge that and we need to start making sure that our kids that are
growing up here in Nashua have the same opportunities to succeed in education with the supports that they
need. | think the planning that has been done laboriously under Alderman Dowd’s leadership has been
very extensive, it has been public knowledge, it has been engaging. | do agree with Alderman Jette that a
lot of very good questions were asked at the Public Comment, but | think at the end of the day, as
Aldermen we were elected to address this issue so | support it as well.

Alderman Klee

Yes thank you. | Know there was a comment that our homework hadn’t been done. | am on, like Alderman
Jette and Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja, yourself, President Wilshire and Alderman Dowd on this Committee
and there’s been a lot of homework that has been done. Actually this is the result of all the homework that
is sitting on the web site that any person can get to. This has been talked about since | became Alderman
2 years ago. It is a need; | think that everyone did their homework, asked the appropriate questions in the
Committees. We went through all of the contracts, who would be the best person for architect; who would
be the best person for contractor. We listened to their ideas. We listened to whether or not it was good to
keep Elm Street.

| also want to address the fact that this is not a junior high, it is a Middle School and as such we had three
Middle Schools. This project will equalize the Middle Schools across the City; one in the North, one in mid-
section and one in the South. My hope is that yes it will eliminate some of the bussing and our kids won’t
get home at 5:30 at night, that they will be home at a decent hour rather than being bused from Elm Street.
The other issues that were talked about was the tax rate.

| appreciate Alderman Jette’s expectation or at least a stab at it. | thank you very much for it. | know that
Mr. Fredette had said that it was something that was very difficult to calculate but that at least gives us
some concrete information. The truth is that there never a good time to spend money. | think as far as
anybody is concerned they would always want their taxes to go down and never to spend money.

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One other question that keeps getting talked about is that we have a lower enrollment. | think with better
schools, this is not really going to be a State of the Art School but a better School System, it will bring
younger families in. | can tell you that from my family that have looked at places to live, States to live, they
look at the School Systems first. So if we have a School System for Middle Schools, for fifth graders and
so on, that is a good school, we will attract younger families here and | think that is one of the things that
we want to do. | am for it, I’ve been on it for 2 years, I’ve listened to all of it. Oftentimes, the public doesn’t
react until they start hearing those big numbers and then they come out and react. | think the public has
been asking some incredible questions, | think the public especially those in the areas have brought up
some good concerns. | also think each of those concerns have been looked at. | know Alderman Dowd has
worked with the architects to try to answer these people and we have done our best | think. Nobody’s
questions have been ignored. So thank you.

Alderman Dowd

| have some familiarity with this project. It has been well over a year going through all the studies, | am not
going reiterate anything that was said. On the bonding | have met no less than five times with the
Treasurer and there are a number of things involved in bonding. There is no set payment per year; if it
looks like the bond payment for a year is going to be high and affect the tax rate the wrong way there are
ways around that. Also there are things like we sell bonds and they are so much in demand that we get a
fee from some of the companies, they pay us to actually buy our bonds. I’m not exactly sure how that
works but that’s what | was told. Also, we can move the payments around and we can buy the bonds for 20
years, we can buy them for 25 years. There are many ways to manipulate that and the idea is to keep that
bonding level fairly level so to try to impact to say what it is on a personal home of $300,000.00; you can’t
say that. | was with Treasurer Fredette this afternoon and he says, “You can’t possibly say that because |
can change that payment as need be and City Services could change”. That impacts more than probably
this will.

When we approve a bond, any one of these bonds, he does not go out that next day and buy a bond. He
won't buy a bond until he needs to. We have ways of covering early expenses, especially in this instance
where we already have $2 million dollars to spend. So that payment is not really going to impact anybody’s
home as far as property taxes are concerned; it is going to stay level just like it has for many years.

The other thing is that all of the questions that were asked have either been answered or tried to be
answered that five inch study is over a year’s work by two of the best professional firms involved and they
are here tonight; Harriman is our architect and Harvey is our construction manager. They are truly
professionals and they have a ton of experience and when they are doing the pricing analysis and they are
doing the educational analysis and the design analysis; it is really outstanding. So | urge everyone to vote
for this.

Alderman Tencza

May | just ask a question through the Chairman to you, regarding some of the questions with the design of
the project. If the Chairman could just briefly touch on whether any final decisions have been made in
particular with the issue of access to this piece of land and what the process will be like going forward to
finalize the project in case anyone in the public has questions or concerns about it moving forward.
Alderman Dowd

I’m not sure what the question was?

Alderman Tencza

Access and the process moving forward to finalize design for the school, location and everything.

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Alderman Dowd

We have numerous, numerous times that as we did this one year study, we talked to many groups of
people who have input into this process. That continues throughout the detailed design phase, that is also
at Fairgrounds and Pennichuck, not just the new school. Whether it is teachers, school administrators,
neighbors, Police Department, Fire Department, Department of Public Works, they will all be involved in the
detailed design. All we have now like for the new school is a conceptual design and that could change
based on all of those inputs. The idea is to make a school that’s extremely beneficial to Nashua; meets
the needs of the students and the School Department and has the least impact on the neighborhood.

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-19-191 declared duly adopted.
R-19-192
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF NASHUA TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH FUEL MEDIA
HOLDINGS FOR ADVERTISING SERVICES
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN TENCZA FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-192 BY ROLL CALL
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Jette
| would just like for people who are watching and just to explain, this is the company that sells the
advertising that you see on the busses. So this is a company that we contract with that sells that
advertising and arranges to get it put on the busses. That’s what this is for.
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-19-192 declared duly adopted.

Board of Aldermen 12-23-2019 Page 18

R-19-193
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
RELATIVE TO THE TRANSFER OF $3,250 FROM DEPARTMENT #194 “CONTINGENCY”,
ACCOUNT #70100 “GENERAL CONTINGENCY” TO THE NASHUA AIRPORT FOR THE
PURPOSE OF FUNDING A PORTION OF THE COST OF SNOW REMOVAL EQUIPMENT
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN MELIZZI-GOLJA FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-193 BY ROLL CALL
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-19-193 declared duly adopted.

R-19-194
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
NASHUA POLICE COMMISSION AND THE NASHUA POLICE SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION
FROM JULY 1, 2020 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2023 AND AUTHORIZING RELATED TRANSFERS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN HARRIOTT-GATHRIGHT FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-194 BY ROLL
CALL

ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Tencza

Thank you Madam President. | know that there has been a lot of discussion about this contract.
Throughout the last couple of years we’ve talked about the issue with the health insurance and | am glad it
is being addressed. This contract like the other contract we voted on today, | am not sure we should hold
it up over this issue with the healthcare or future budget cycles. | think Alderman Clemons said earlier
every year there are difficulties, we need to make difficult decisions here. | don’t see this contract as adding
to those difficult decisions, given the bargaining unit and the amount of the contract. Deputy Chief
Testaverde also talked about the difficulties in retaining people now within the Police Department which is
not just a problem for Nashua. | would think the Department of Nashua actually probably does a better job
of retaining but nevertheless, it is a competitive market. | think these benefits, or the costs associated with
this goes towards letting the Sergeants and the Lieutenants know that we value the work that they do and
we want them to stay in Nashua. So! am hoping that the Board supports this tonight.

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Alderman Lopez

| just want to express my sympathy for Mayor Donchess for having to take the position that he is taking. |
appreciate that you are doing your job and you are looking at the whole City. | am sure you love being
Scrooge tonight and telling people that no you don’t think the money that they want is there. | know you
don’t necessarily want to take that position because you do appreciate Fire and Police. It is a tough job to
be in but | mean at the end of the day, so is theirs. So | think both sides have made very good points; both
sides have advocated very strongly for their constitutes. And | think as Board of Aldermen we are going to
have to take a hit on this when it comes to budget season because it is going to have to come out of
somewhere.

Alderman Laws

| couldn’t agree more. | think Police is certainly a Division of City Government that you want to be able to
hire at their leisure and not out of desperation and this is something that we are absolutely going to need to
do to make it so they can staff with good officers, which we have. We can’t put a feather in our cap about
how great the Police Department and then not support them when they are coming to us for help. So |
support this.

Alderman Dowd

I'll start out by saying that | am going to support this but | did have an extensive conversation with the
Mayor and | understand his concerns relative to these costs and health costs. | have asked the Mayor right
after the first of the year to have us sit down with the health insurance people and give us a full explanation
on what is going on and possible ways we can mitigate some of this going forward. Also, we need to have
a discussion as a full group on the budget pressures for this upcoming year and look at what we might have
to do as a group going forward to ensure that the tax rate doesn’t get out of hand. | look forward to having
those discussions after the New Year.

Alderman Lopez
Mayor if you are visited by three ghosts this evening, you should call the Police and see what they can do.
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-19-194 declared duly adopted.

Board of Aldermen 12-23-2019 Page 20

R-19-195
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $63,790 FROM THE STATE OF
NEW HAMPSHIRE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INTO POLICE GRANT ACTIVITY “FY2020
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT (VAWA) GRANT PROGRAM” AND TO AUTHORIZE THE
TRANSFER OF MATCHING FUNDS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN MELIZZI-GOLJA FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-195 BY ROLL CALL
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd,
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-19-195 declared duly adopted.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O-19-062
Endorsers: Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Thomas Lopez
PROHIBITING THE USE OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS NEAR CITY OWNED BUILDINGS AND IN
CITY PARKS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN SCHMIDT FOR INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT O-19-062 COMMITTEE BY
ROLL CALL

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Schmidt

I'd like to speak to my proposal. First I’d like to apologize to the two folks that worked very hard with me to
build this Ordinance. After speaking with members of the City Departments, the Police and many folks who
live in the City, | find that it is a little to broad and it is a little indistinct. | would like to indefinitely postpone
this and start again in January, my apologies. Thank you.

Alderman Clemons

| completely respect that position and as I’ve said before, | am happy to work with you Alderman Schmidt

because | think that if we can narrow this down to certain and particular areas, | think that we can come up
with a pretty good Ordinance that satisfies what we are trying to do. So | appreciate that thank you.

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Alderman Lopez

I’m obviously not a huge fan of smoking in public parks and I’ve pointed to fire danger issue. But it had
occurred to me and | felt like | could address this if the legislation had passed, that potentially with an
increase in the number of homeless encampments in the City and in those parks, this could be used as a
way to move people along. So! mean! am glad we are looking at it a little bit more carefully because the
parks get a lot of different usage. | do think it’s important on making sure that Number One — we are
keeping smoking away from children’s play areas wherever possible. But Number Two — we craft the
legislation that allows Parks & Recreation to figure out how to do that, like whether it is with signage or
whatever. Because some of the conversation that we had regarding this and the expense of signs was
alarming and particularly it is important that whatever legislation we come up with is understandable as a
change in policy for the City of Nashua so that people aren’t wondering which parks they can smoke in and
which ones they can’t. So whatever we craft, | think we need a lot of interaction with Public Works and
Parks & Recreation and | agree that we can work a little more on this.

Alderman Jette
| was looking forward to voting for this. | respect the reasons for withdrawing it at this time or postponing at

this time so that we end up with a better crafted law that accomplishes its purpose. So | will agree with
Alderman Schmidt to indefinitely postpone.

Alderman Lopez
If somebody is walking around in Mine Falls smoking in 20 degrees of weather, our Public Health
Department can probably point you towards some smoking cessation programs.
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd,
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN MELIZZI-GOLJA TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE O-19-064 BY ROLL
CALL

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd,

Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,

Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons

Ald. Wilshire 15
Nay: 0

MOTION CARRIED

Board of Aldermen 12-23-2019 Page 22

O-19-064
Endorsers: | Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Ken Gidge
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
ADDING ADDITIONAL PARCELS TO THE NASHUA RIVERFRONT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
Given its fourth reading;

MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN MELIZZI-GOLJA FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-19-064 BY ROLL CALL
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd,
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-19-064 declared duly adopted.

NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS - None

NEW BUSINESS — ORDINANCES - None

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

Laurie Ortolano 41 Berkeley Street. | just wanted to talk to you for a couple minutes about some Right to
Know issues. | had put in, and | am concerned about this because of the legislation that is being proposed
to charge residents for time being used by administrators when you exceed a certain amount each month.
You all know | put in plenty of Right to Know requests. One of the Right to Know requests | put in was on
August 13" and | took this specific contract language from the KRT Contract and requested their returned
documentation. The City took the position that all of that language, all of those requests were going to be
denied with the exception of one piece on the basis that anything that KRT returned was considered “draft
material’. And as “draft material” it wasn’t available for public viewing. That’s going to be something we
challenge in Court soon here | think. Because the way the City works right now an assessor will take a
property card and go out to a home and mark it up “draft form” but that is stapled to the changed card and it
is in the file and the public can review that. Basically KRT took all these forms and returned them. We
didn’t ask them to staple them to all of our property cards because it probably would have taken too much
time.

Anyway the City said what they said but they said that there was one thing they would deliver and it was
the Hearing sheets. It kept getting stalled and the reason | found out about Hearing Sheets, | didn’t know
these Hearing Sheets existed and we met with the president of KRT: was because as | was gathering
property files, record files over at City Hall | was finding Hearing Sheets in the files from people who went to
the second hearing.