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So | am asking for your support. The Budget Review voted unanimously to support it, | would hope that |
would get that same support from every member. | am here, | am available to answer any questions that
you ask. Thank you.

Carl Seidel Hello, | am Carl S-E-I-D-E-L. 39 Pilgrim Circle. Ok | am glad that the Mayor asked questions
about the financial part because that’s what | am here, asking questions about the bonding and the school
and the other elements of the school. | regret | was out of town when the Committee had its meeting, but
questions that | haven’t heard answers to are the breakdown in the elements of each of the projects; the
projected student population by grade. As | understand they are building for expansion when everybody
sees that the student population has declined; a history of future projection of our bonding debt and the list
of potential projects that you have. You have a lot of things on your plate and $180 million dollars is a lot
and it is going to mean a lot in the taxes.

A rough proposal for maybe a much-reduced type of school instead of $80 plus million dollars, something in
the $50 to $60 million dollar range. And that is what | hope you consider and respond to that. Thank you.

Dan DuFour 52 Conant Road, I’m trying to make it quick, bonding. | think it is irresponsible to vote to bond
all of this without knowing how much it is going to cost the taxpayer. | mean the Mayor started the evening
talking about fiscal responsibility and you can’t tell me how much it is going to cost in my taxes if all this
bonding passes?

| will move onto the school site and | speak as a taxpayer and someone who was on the School Board for
18 years. | dealt with that plan when it came before us. First of all, it is around a 20-acre parcel if | recall
and it was never meant to be anything but an elementary school. That’s how it was pitched to us. There’s a
big difference in usage between an elementary school and junior high, in traffic. | haven’t seen that issue
addressed whatsoever. Are there going to be enough, there are wetlands on that bigger parcel, is there
enough on that land, useable land on that site to get the parking and the building and all the athletic
facilities that you seek? | haven’t heard those answers anywhere.

Have there been any traffic studies done? | mean | live on Conant Road. Back up for a second, | would
wish that the City did not spend another penny on Elm Street. | was on capital improvements for many,
many years and it was tearful to spend millions of dollars on a building that | knew | would be standing here
tonight talking about because the building is obsolete and is has been for a long time. But to go back,
traffic studies, how about the roads, how about the sidewalks? It is my understanding that if you live within
a mile of the school, bussing is not allowed or is not provided. That area of the City does not have
adequate roads, nor does it have adequate sidewalks. And as | recall and | read this a little bit in the paper,
there is no direct access other than off | believe it is Medallion Circle and you can’t possibly bring all that
traffic through that sub-division. It will have to be off BuckMeadow. It is my understanding that you don’t
even have access to that yet.

To go back to the Mayor’s entre this evening about fiscal responsibility. Tonight you are being asked to
approve over $180 million dollars of bonding, mostly for the school and you are unable to tell me how much
it will impact my tax rate, how much it will cost for road and sidewalk improvements, how the traffic will
affect the greater neighborhood, that whole 03062 or a whole lot of it. And how will you access the schools,
you are not able to tell me any of that yet. Like Commissioner Pappas says this evening, there’s been no
homework done on that but you are ready to approve it. As a taxpayer, that’s repulsive, as someone who
was on the Planning Board for 18 years, it’s not even imaginable that you would move forward without
having the most of those answers. | mean everything is a moving target, but to not have those answers is
just irresponsible. So you know, two days before Christmas? | mean it just doesn’t even look right, there’s
no one here and | know that it is two days before Christmas. You know there’s no reason why you can’t get
the answers and then hold an adequate public meeting and more discussion and provide us with some
answers to some of these questions, so that’s it. Thank you.

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Jim Testaverde Thank you my name is Jim Testaverde, | am Deputy Chief of Police with the Nashua
Police Department. | am here in support of both contracts for the UFPO and the Nashua Police
Supervisor’s Association, but | will keep my comments specifically to the Supervisor’s Association and | will
be here throughout the duration if anyone has any questions. The Mayor spoke very eloquently about
working together as a City and the Police Department, like many agencies around the City, have gotten
together in the Collective Bargaining Strategy Committee and we are working together to try to do what is
best for our people and the City as a whole. But we just learned about this monetary issue with healthcare
very recently and we are having trouble believing that this is a new phenomenon that the City just learned
about. And if they had known about it for a while, it wasn’t communicated properly.

This particular contract with the Supervisors was negotiated, in its entirety, before we ever heard anything
from the City about the issue with the healthcare. In addition, I've heard the Mayor many times speak
publicly about the men and women, the first line supervisors that are out there in the wee hours of the
morning in uniform, you know, protecting all of us with Police and Fire. This contract is who that
represents, these are the sergeants and the lieutenants, these are the first line supervisors which is the
most vital and integral level in any law enforcement entity in the nation. If you ask any Police Department,
they will tell you the first line supervisors are the most vital to the success of any agency.

These are the mean and women that are out there. These are the men and women, that when we are all
going to be home, myself included God willing on Christmas Day, they are going to be out on the streets.
We are down, | said at the Budget Review Hearing, 17 going on 18, when | say going on 18 it is because
one of our people’s background investigation is almost done. We swore in 3 new officers a week ago; they
are no good to us for 6 to 9 months on average. So | still hold that we are down 17 to 18 officers; that’s
about 20% of our patrol force right now. The Mayor talked about what | know he doesn’t want to do of
cutting services, 20% reduction in our patrol force and we are not cutting services whatsoever. We don’t
just think of the Police Department; | am looking around this room, we have never disregarded a phone call,
an e-mail from anyone here, a meeting a committee, opioid crisis, homelessness, mental health, suicide,
children, schools. Any issue that comes up from this circle or from anyone standing behind me or out in the
community, we are there for it. So we are working, we are not just thinking about ourselves, but when we
are losing people, what is being told to me and | agree with this, in over 21 years serving the City, the one
thing that has remained consistent, it is never a good contract year for City Employees. It is never a good
contract year. We have bad economies, we have pension issues up at the State, now we have healthcare
issues and once again it’s not a good time. But we are hemorrhaging good men and women and we have
to compete with Massachusetts because we are on the border with Massachusetts and more than half of
our agency is form Massachusetts myself included. We came up here for a better way of life and a better
community and a better way to do law enforcement, but we are losing our people.

Again, | said | would be here. | just want to end, | am sure you all saw it, because the Mayor tweeted it a
few weeks ago and | was very proud that we are once again in the Top 10 Safest Communities in the
Country. And | am not saying that is all because of the Police Department but | would like to think that we
play some meager role in all that and | would like that to continue very much. So regardless of how the
vote goes tonight, | wish you from the bottom of the heart a very healthy and safe Holiday Season. Thank
you.

Lou Juris Good evening, thank you for letting me speak tonight.

President Wilshire

| need your name and address.

Lou Juris 56 Haines, | am going ahead of myself here which is kind of rare but | think it is important to go
forward with the school project. As we know, Elm Street for a long time, it would be good to understand

how it might understand our tax bill, but at the same time, | wonder what the existing facility is impacting us
right now.

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You know, beyond the wear and tear of the building, the health of the building and it is our most precious
students and the educators, it is important to move forward with the project and maybe put the existing site
to some use for affordable housing or workforce housing or emergency shelter. It was good education to
hear the contracts tonight for the cops, there is a lot of back and forth, I’m sure this has been a long
process and it is probably important to take a serious vote on that tonight. The front line people are very
important and there is a lot of competition to get Police; to get qualified cops. To have them not leave, like
the Deputy Chief just said. You may want to look into maybe, with the healthcare costs going up, you can
always try to maybe open existing contracts to try to talk about some increases if possible to employees, a
little bit to help with those costs, they are going around, it’s a nationwide thing. Just a few thoughts on that.
So again the school being important, | think it is vital and it’s been a long time coming and there has been a
lot of hard work at the School Board on that matter over the past year or couple of years. Good evening
and thank you.

COMMUNICATIONS REQUIRING FINAL APPROVAL

From: Mayor Jim Donchess
Re: Contract Extension of Essex Power Services Inc. Jackson Mills and Mine Falls Operations
and Maintenance Agreement

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE, AND AUTHORIZE THE
EXTENSION OF CONTRACT FOR THE JACSKSON MILLS AND MINE FALLS OPERATIONS
AND MAINTENANCE WITH ESSEX POWER SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $404,605 PLUS
REVENUE SHARING BY ROLL CALL

ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Jette

Could we just have an explanation of what this is all about?

Mayor Donchess

The damns are managed by Essex Power which they run the day-to-day operations. We own the
damns we get income from the sale of power, but the damns still have to be operated. We
contract with Essex Power to do that and this is a contract extension of our current contract with
Essex Power.

Alderman Jette

Thank you.
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd

Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,

Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons

Ald. Wilshire 15
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

PETITIONS - None

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NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS - None

REPORTS OF COMMITTEE

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There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the December 9, 2019, Human Affairs
Committee accepted and placed on file.

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There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the December 9, 2019,
Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee accepted and placed on file.

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There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the December 12, 2019, Substandard
Living Conditions Special Committee accepted and placed on file.

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There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the December 16, 2019, Budget Review
Committee accepted and placed on file.

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There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the December 18, 2019, Finance
Committee accepted and placed on file.

CONFIRMATION OF MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS

Auditorium Commission

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the appointment of Paul LaFlamme,
28 Lutheran Drive, Nashua, to the Auditorium Commission with a term to expire December 31, 2021.

Board of Registrars

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the appointment of Adriana Lopera,

137 Chestnut Street, Apt. 2, Nashua, to the Board of Registrars with a term to expire December 31,
2021.

Oath of Office administered by Corporation Counsel.

Conservation Commission

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the appointment of Joshua T. Hauser,
9 Cobble Hill Road, Nashua, to the Conservation Commission with a term to expire December 371,
2020.

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Hunt Memorial Building Board of Trustees

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the reappointments of the following
individuals to the Hunt Memorial Building Board of Trustees: Tammy Crisp, 12 Mountain Laurels
Drive, Apt. 101, Nashua, with a term to expire December 31, 2020; Rosalie McQuaid, 17 Reservoir
Street, Nashua, with a term to expire December 31, 2021; Charles Matthews, 17 Shelburne Road,
Nashua, with a term to expire December 31, 2023; and Stacy Baxter, 38 Berkeley Street, Nashua,
with a term to expire December 31, 2024.

Zoning Board

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the reappointments of the following
individuals to the Zoning Board: Jean-Paul G. Boucher, 8 Foxmeadow Road, Nashua, Mariellen
MacKay, 9 Webster Street, Nashua; and Rob Shaw, 14 Sweet William Circle, Nashua, with terms to
expire September 11, 2021; Efstathia Booras, 44 Balcom Street, Nashua, with a term to expire
October 1, 2021; Jonathan Currier, 6 New Searles Road, Nashua, with a term to expire:
September 11, 2022; and Steve Lionel, 19 Cabot Drive, Nashua, with a term to expire

September 30, 2022.

Oath of Office administered by Corporation Counsel.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-18-102, Amended
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE NASHUA BOARD OF POLICE COMMISSIONERS AND UFPO LOCAL 645 PROFESSIONAL
EMPLOYEES OF THE NASHUA POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM JULY 1, 2018 THROUGH JUNE 30,
2022 AND AUTHORIZING RELATED TRANSFERS
Given its third reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS TO AMEND R-18-102 IN ITS ENTIRETY BY REPLACING IT
WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS MADE BY THE BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE BY ROLL
CALL

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Jette

Can we hear the summary of what the amendments are?

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Steve Bolton Corporation Counsel

A Memo was prepared by Dorothy Clarke, Deputy Corporation Counsel of my office a few weeks ago.
Essentially it was, as the Police Chief described, in further negotiations there was the tradeoff of an earlier
position regarding sick leave buy outs in return for higher wages; the 3% per year from years 2 through 4 in
the contract. Initially it was going for a 5" year also at 3%; that change was also made reducing it back to 4
years. So those changes were what the amendments were in the Budget Committee of a week ago.

Alderman Jette
Thank you.
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-18-102 AS AMENDED BY ROLL
CALL

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15

Nay: 0

MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-18-102 declared duly adopted as amended.

R-19-186
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Alderman Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED THE
AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS
($1,495,000) FOR VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT FOUR
HILLS LANDFILL AND THE PURCHASE OF TWO REFUSE TRUCKS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN JETTE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-186 BY ROLL CALL

SIEMENS

Assisting in the development of highly-accurate aerial mapping to support both GIS and
engineering projects

* Developing key city GIS data layers including parcels, wastewater, stormwater, water, and other
layers

* Implementing a series of web and mobile applications that allow city staff and the public to
access GIS data

* Providing on-going consulting in support of enhancement of Nashua’s GIS program

Additional details on CDM Smith’s role in the audit phase of the project is also included in this section,
with resumes of CDM Smith project team members found in Appendix A - Resumes.

CDM Smith is a global water, environment, transportation, energy and facilities firm helping public and
private clients improve the environment and infrastructure. Founded in 1947 as a three-person firm,
they have grown and diversified into a multidisciplinary staff of 5,000 in over 125 offices worldwide,
with 750 professionals in New England. CDM Smith is a Massachusetts-based firm, with our corporate
headquarters in Cambridge. They have grown from a New England-based firm to a global Engineering
News-Record (ENR) top 100 design-build firm generating more than $1 billion in annual revenues. CDM
Smith has the resources required to meet any need that arises during the life of a project. Furthermore,
its resources extend beyond traditional engineering services, as the capabilities of our construction
subsidiary, CDM Constructors, allow us to also build and operate facilities. As a full-service engineering
and construction firm, we deliver exceptional client service, quality results and enduring value across the
entire project lifecycle.

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A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-19-186 declared duly adopted.

R-19-187
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED THE
AMOUNT OF SIX MILLION DOLLARS ($6,000,000) FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF
A DIVISION OF PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE FACILITY
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-187 BY ROLL CALL
Alderman Tencza

Thank you Madam Chair. | appreciate the comments that were made at the Public Hearing and comments
that were made here tonight about the bond. One of the things that the City and the Public needs to
remember; it has been brought up a number of times at other hearings is that part of this bond is going to
utilize the money from the Burke Street property which makes it somewhat time sensitive. | appreciate
Commissioner Pappas in the comments she had made about the other employees. But! don’t think that by
passing this bond tonight we are necessarily foreclosing on correcting other issues or going forward with
other projects in the future.

Alderman Jette

| appreciate Commissioner Pappas’ comments and | have been the liaison to the Board of Public Works so
| have heard the discussion. From the time that | was elected two years ago, | was taken on a tour of the
Public Works Facilities and | saw that the buildings are in poor shape as has been described many times. |
agree with Commissioner Pappas that the ideal solution would be to fix everything where we are taking a
step, | was concerned, since | am the Ward 5 Alderman, | was concerned about this plan to consolidate
everything at the landfill because | was concerned about how that would affect the neighborhood and the
neighbors.

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Frankly not many people have said anything, in fact just the opposite, some of the people in the
neighborhood say they are not opposed to this project. We gave them, thanks to the Board and largely
thanks to whoever controls snow, which caused a delay in the Public Hearing so the informational meeting
could occur prior to the Public Hearing. So people had an opportunity to hear about this and ask questions
and the presentation was made available on-line. Evidently, people are not opposed to it: at least they
haven't expressed any opposition.

So the idea of moving the Administrative Building, building this new building, | think is a necessary project,
but | think it’s only part of the solution. | think that that the long-range plan as the Director and Commission
Teas said during the Public Hearing, the long range plan is to move the garage that is currently located on
stadium drive and the garages that house the Park Recreation vehicles, to the landfill site.

| think they would do it now but It’s a much more expensive project and | think the Board of Public Works
recognized that the City just cannot afford to that right now. It is going to be, you know, this is the first step
in that. So | support this, the alternative would be much too expensive | feel. If we had the money, | think
that’s what we would want to do. But we’ve heard the Mayor talk about the healthcare costs and other
pressures on the budget. So | think this is the most we can do at the current time. | think it’s very much
needed so | will support this and vote for this.

Alderman Lopez

| just want to say this is a long overdue investment. | mean the City will become a disaster in two weeks if
we don’t have garbage pickup. If we don’t have clean water, our roads plowed, Public Works does a lot of
works. They don’t always get a lot of thanks for it. | mean sometimes people are focused on what is going
on at the end of their driveway and they don’t really have the whole City perspective in mind. | think the
Administrative Staff that oversees all that activity and helps organize it does a very good job overall for the
amount of work that they do compared to their size.

So | just think this is a long overdue investment. As Alderman Jette pointed out and Alderman Tencza, it
certainly doesn’t foreclose us on pursuing additional needs. This is an incremental approach, we have the
opportunity to do it and it makes sense to do it now.
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Ald. O’Brien, Ald. Gidge, Ald. Harriott-Gathright, Ald. Dowd
Ald. Klee, Ald. Laws, Ald. Lopez, Ald. Caron, Ald. Kelly,
Ald. Jette, Ald. Melizzi-Golja, Ald. Tencza, Ald. Schmidt, Ald. Clemons
Ald. Wilshire 15
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-19-187 declared duly adopted.

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R-19-191
Endorsers: Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Ken Gidge
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED THE
AMOUNT OF ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN MILLION DOLLARS ($118,000,000) TO FUND
THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL AND RENOVATIONS AND
EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS (PENNICHUCK AND FAIRGROUNDS)
INCLUDING THE PAYMENT OF COSTS INCIDENTAL OR RELATED THERETO
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN DOWD FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-191 BY ROLL CALL
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Clemons

Thank you. | am very pleased to support this this evening. The reason being is that this is actual ... we
have to recognize the fact and as was previously explained in public comment that Elm Street is no longer
a viable option for us. We did the studies, it is actually going to cost more if we were to renovate Elm
Street. So you know some of the comments that | have heard | just wanted to kind of address. There have
been studies that have been with the population that was explained at the Budget Committee. Each one of
these schools after the renovation, the new one and the two existing middle schools, Pennichuck and
Fairgrounds, are going to have relatively equal population. Right now it is imbalanced because | think Elm
Street is the larger one. So that population is going to shift a little bit to the other two schools.

The other thing that | had asked the City Treasurer to provide and was included with the Agenda this
evening was the amount of bond debt service that the City has projected in the next few years. It is actually
going down. So even with all of the bonding that we are doing this evening or that has proposed to be
done and has been done; the debt service is actually going down. It goes up a little bit like $2,000.00 next
year and then the year after that it is down $2 million; it is down $1.5 million; $530,000.00. You can see
these trends all the way through — we have it projected out to 2041 of paying less money per year than we
are paying now in overall bond debt.

The reason we are able to accomplish this is because the high schools are being paid off after now that
they are coming to the end of their years. It’s like any other loan, you pay less in the beginning, more in the
end. The high schools are at the end, we are paying a lot more towards them. We have a very good
Treasurer, he knows how to first of all float these bonds in a way that they are at the least cost to the
taxpayer, we have a Triple AAA Bond Rating in Nashua. In addition to al of that, you have to remember
that the City anticipates some of these costs. | don’t think that anybody didn’t know five or ten years ago
that something was going to have be done with Elm Street.

The question is absolutely timing, that was mentioned this evening and timing is absolutely right. And the
time to do this is right now because for the very reason that our bond debt service is going down to a point
where we can let a bond that will allow us to do a big project like this and it won’t cost anything extra to the
taxpayer. That’s the point.