Finance Committee - Minutes - 4/15/2020 - P12
Finance Committee - 04/15/2020 Page 12
Some of our concrete pipe is in pretty bad shape so that is what we are focusing on. But Kenyon, as | said, is doing most
of the lining but we are looking at a lot more pipes with our other inspection crews as well. So we are looking at a lot of
pipe, but you know in the last ... this will be about 10 more miles of line and last year we did about 9. So overall, we are, |
would say we are doing pretty well comparatively.
Alderwoman Kelly
Can | ask a follow up please?
Mayor Donchess
Yes, of course.
Alderwoman Kelly
So you said you did 9 miles last year, 10 miles this year, are you anticipating another 10 miles the following year?
Dan Hudson, City Engineer
Yeah probably, | mean of course it depends a lot on what we sign, but we have been looking at the downtown area
prioritizing that area. As we get further away from downtown, sewers are newer, you are going to see more PVC sewer
and we wouldn’t expect to find nearly the amount of problems with those as we have with you know, hundred-year-old
concrete pipes. So next year | expect we will be requesting additional inspection work and lining work. But! can’t, you
know, | can’t know exactly what the long-term scope of this is.
The benefit of this program it is right now is we look at it and if we find something that needs to be lined, this contract has
lining included so we can quickly move and line the pipe before it becomes a problem. So we are able to be responsive
and cover a lot of ground with this contract so we feel this is money very well spent; prudent in the long-term, cost interest
in the City. So that’s why we are recommending that the work continue.
Alderwoman Kelly
Yeah, | agree with you 100% and | think it is work that needs to get done. Mr. Mayor | am sort of thinking about like the
paving program where we planned out a number of years with different milestones each year that we are trying to hit.
Would it give us any cost savings or any benefit of potential planning if we were to approach this this way instead of year
by year, just kind of adding on another 10 miles.
Mayor Donchess
| do see there is one difference with the paving or maybe more but the paving the condition is apparent. With an
inspection of all streets in Nashua (inaudible) cataloged the paving condition index with respect to every street and that’s
an ongoing process that a renewed evaluation that is done periodically and that’s what you use to decide how to pave.
But really it is somewhat of a year by year process because tentative lists of paving can change based upon new
inspection of streets. Sometimes streets deteriorate more quickly than others.
In this situation, the condition of the pipes (inaudible) inspection is part of the contract. It is a much more laborious
process with cameras and trying to (inaudible). It’s yard by yard really, right? (inaudible) a City Engineer so the City
Engineer may be able to correct me or elaborate on that.
Dan Hudson, City Engineer
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, | agree, | mean | don’t have a level of comfort until we have looked in the pipes and some of these
pipes haven't been looked at in a long time or never. So this is a good program, let’s see what we have. We actually
haven’t been doing it at this level years and years ago but | don’t think that was, you know, it is a good time to do it and
things are going well and we want to continue it because the better we can plan our long-term work. And some of that,
you know, some of that will be digging and we will need to plan that out over time if we can as well. We are trying to get
ahead of it, meaning be proactive, not be reactionary to these things. So yeah. | think like you said, you can’t see inside
the pipe until you go look inside the pipe. We are looking at every section of road at least once every three years and of
course people are driving on them every day too. So maybe we are playing catchup on getting our inventory identified but
