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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 3/8/2022 - P5

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Adventure Way, south of the intersection that was to be voted on tonight. He is not going to speak tonight. We are going
to address it at a later date. But there is an abutter on that road that would like to speak if they could take his spot.

President Wilshire

Is that something that we are taking action upon this evening, Adventure Way? Okay, | need your name and address and
you have 3 minutes okay.

Bob Greer

Bob Greer, owner of Sky Venture NH, One Adventure Way. We are the business that is on Adventure Way and we are
most heavily affected by whatever action this is. Yes this intersection has been a big problem lately, but the problem is
with traffic coming into the area versus leaving the area. I’d like everyone to keep that in mind, please. I’ve got customers
that are trying to leave and they want to leave and go north because they can avoid a lot of traffic that way. Leaving
Adventure Way on a red light assuming there is no traffic coming north, it makes perfect sense. Obviously you have to
wait if there is traffic coming, you can’t turn, it’s very logical, but it’s a very easy way to reduce traffic on Adventure Way.
Again, the biggest back up is from traffic coming into the area and leaving. Thank you.

COMMUNICATIONS REQUIRING FINAL APPROVAL

From: Mayor Jim Donchess
Re: Contract Award in excess of $1,000,000 — 2022 Paving Program

MOTION BY ALDERMAN KLEE TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE 2022
PAVING PROGRAM TO SUNSHINE PAVING CORPORATION OF HUDSON, NH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,562,802.50.
FUNDING WILL BE THROUGH DEPARTMENT: 160 ADMIN/ENGINEERING; FUNDS: BOND AND TRUST; ACTIVITY:
PAVING; AND DEPARTMENT 169 WASTEWATER; FUNDS: BOND AND WASTEWATER; ACTIVITIES SEWER
REHAB AND STORMWATER ABATEMENT

MOTION CARRIED

PETITIONS
Petition for Authorization for Issuance of Building Permits for a Building on a Private Road - 19 Roby St.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN JETTE TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT PURSUANT TO RSA
674:41 FOR THE ERECTION OF A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNIT AT 19 ROBY STREET WITH SOLE ACCESS
VIA ROBY STREET, A PRIVATE ROAD, PROVIDED THAT: 1) THE MUNICIPALITY NEITHER ASSUMES
RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE OF SAID PRIVATE ROAD NOR LIABILITY FOR ANY DAMAGES
RESULTING FROM THE USE THEREOF; AND 2) PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, THE
APPLICANT SHALL PRODUCE EVIDENCE THAT NOTICE OF THE LIMITS OF MUNICIPAL RESPONSIBILITY AND
LIABILITY HAS BEEN RECORDED IN THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY REGISTRY OF DEEDS FOR THE LOT FOR
WHICH THE BUILDING PERMIT IS SOUGHT; AND 3) ACCESS TO THE NEW STRUCTURE WILL BE PROVIDED BY
A 16-FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY WHICH SHALL EXTEND TO WITHIN 50 FEET OF AT LEAST ONE EXTERIOR DOOR
PER NFPA 1 CHAPTER 18; AND 4) THE E911 ADDRESS ASSIGNED TO THIS PROPERTY WILL BE 19 ROBY
STREET; AND 5) THE APPLICANT SHALL SATISFACTORILY ADDRESS ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY
ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Jette

As you heard from Attorney Westgate the history of this and this motion that | just read is what | proposed at the
Infrastructure Committee meeting because | felt that it included all the requirements of the law, and the Planning Board,
and the Fire Marshal. However since then as you heard Attorney Westgate explain, the Fire Marshal has indicated that
the 16 foot wide driveway that he talked about in his letter is no longer a requirement and that he and the engineering
company that is working with the petitioner/applicant will come up with a different way of dealing with this. Its unfortunate
the Fire Marshal didn’t sent another explaining that, but he did send an e-mail which Attorney Westgate showed me and
our about to be new Planning Director Matt Sullivan confirmed that was the case.

So in view of that, | would like to make a motion to amend what | just read to you by replacing it with the amended motion
that was just passed out to you. | hope that | don’t have to read the whole thing. I'll just point out that Attorney Westgate

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made some improvements to what | had written and most significantly #3 he’s changed it to read, “The petitioner shall
satisfactorily address all requirements of the Fire Marshal’s office” instead of specifying the driveway that was outlined in
the original motion. So that’s basically the amendment and so | move to amend the original motion by replacing it with
that copy.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN JETTE TO AMEND TO GRANT THE PETITION AND AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF
BUILDING PERMIT(S) PURSUANT TO RSA 674:41 FOR THE ERECTION OF A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNIT
AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS AT 19 ROBY STREET WITH SOLE ACCESS VIA ROBY STREET, A PRIVATE
ROAD, PROVIDED THAT: 1) THE MUNICIPALITY NEITHER ASSUMES RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE OF
SAID PRIVATE ROAD NOR LIABILITY FOR ANY DAMAGES RESULTING FROM THE USE THEREOF; 2) PRIOR TO
THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, THE PETITION SHALL PRODUCE EVIDENCE THAT NOTICE OF THE
LIMITS OF MUNICIPAL RESPONSIBILITY AND LIABILITY HAS BEEN RECORDED IN THE HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY REGISTRY OF DEEDS FOR THE LOT FOR WHICH THE BUILDING PERMIT IS SOUGHT; 3) THE
PETITIONER SHALL SATISFACTORILY ADDRESS ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE FIRE MARSHAL’S OFFICE; 4)
THE E911 ADDRESS ASSIGNED TO THIS PROPERTY WILL BE 19 ROBY STREET; AND 5) THE PETITIONER
SHALL SATISFACTORILY ADDRESS ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT

Present Wilshire

The motion is to amend. Alderman O’Brien you wanted to speak.

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you Madam President as many of the members here on the Infrastructure Committee remember, we did discuss
this the other night. The Jette anendment seems to meet some of our concerns and satisfies the needs and wants and
flavor of what the Fire Marshal basically agrees. So as Chairman, | say that it meets what we discussed and would fully
support this motion and I’d like to thank Alderman Jette working with and cleaning this up and appreciate it. Thank you.

Alderman Klee

Thank you. This looks really good, but | just have some clarification if anybody can answer it. When it says “municipality
neither assumes responsibility for maintenance for said private road nor a liability for any damages resulting from the use
thereof” does that mean we don’t pave it? We don’t have to do the paving, we don’t have to plow it, will there be trash
pick-up for that particular address? If there is any accident or anything that happens on that is the City liable for anything?

Alderman O’Brien

I’m going to have to research, but maybe somebody else can give a better answer, but basically it’s a private road. | think
that would mean the owners would be responsible for the paving. Trash — | think that’s the one that | question. | think
everyone through their tax base has some entitlement to trash pick-up.

Alderman Klee
The reason | brought that up is recently | have been approached by someone, and | think Alderman Dowd can speak to it
as well, from someone in Ward 2 that has recently built a few homes considered a private road and the City will not pick-

up their trash nor will they pave it. That’s why | wanted clarification on this and perhaps Alderman Dowd.

President Wilshire

I’m going to call on Alderman Jette.
Alderman Jette

Yes, it means exactly what it says that the City does not assume responsibility for the maintenance of the road, so that
includes paving, plowing, or any of those things. Secondly, the city does not have any liability for any damages that might
result from the use thereof. That’s right out of the Statute that enables them to build a house on an unapproved street
with our permission.

As far as the trash pick-up, my understanding is that they are close enough to the accepted portion of Roby Street and if
they put the barrels out on the property line of this new lot, it would actually bisect it’s adjacent to the approved part of

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Roby Street, so if they put their barrels out there they would get trash pick-up. If they keep the barrels on the private road,
there would not be trash pick-up.

Alderman Dowd
| researched this on the Manchester Street issue and both Matt Sullivan and with DPW. No there would be no trash
collection, no plowing on private roads for a number of reasons which people can research if they want to. You can’t bring

your barrels to the end of the street and expect the City to pick them up. They won’t do that.

Alderman Cathey

Based on this topic, I’m going to withdraw because | had a different understanding based on what came before the
Planning Board.

President Wilshire

Anyone else? Alderman Lopez.

Alderman Lopez

| just would like to ask Corporation Counsel for their opinion on the amendments that they were working on and then
additionally (this probably sounds like a stupid question but since it’s been over 110 years since the road was conceived
and we don't do these petitions very much), where the Petition includes a specific address does that create any
complications if later we have to amend the address for any future projects like trying to get E911 up-to-date or something
along those lines? Two questions for Attorney Bolton.

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

| think the E911 protocol were taken into consideration by the Fire Marshal’s office when they assigned the 19 Roby
Street address to this parcel. So if the legislature changes the law and requires us to renumber everything, this will be
included in that but | don’t anticipate that happening. That’s going to be the same situation with every property that the
legislature requires it will have to do it. But | don’t think it presents a particular problem in this case.

I’ve got no opinion on the trash collection. As far as | Know, my office was not asked to review that and it’s a new question
which would take some research before | could give an informed opinion on that. | have every reason to believe that the
situation is exactly as Attorney Westgate and Alderman Jette described it, so if this is what the Fire Marshal’s office
desires, | see no legal impediment if any of you wish to have written confirmation from the Fire Marshal’s office that’s up to
you.

Alderman Klee

Thank you Madam President. | have no issue with what the Fire Marshal. My only concern, and | know it sounds like a
silly one, but | don’t want anybody to come later on. We do have a case with a very angry builder in Ward 2. It’s my
constituent which is why I’m involved in it that is very upset that he can’t get trash pick-up - were told could not bring it to
end of street. If that is the case, then he could bring it to the end of the street as was spoken to the 19 Roby property. So
| want to have equity and fairness. | want to make sure that we’re doing it the right way because Alderman Dowd and |
will both will be getting some phone calls because we know he’s listening so if we can. | Know Matt Sullivan, soon to be
Director Sullivan, is on the line. | hate to put him on the spot. He may not be able to answer this question. | don’t see
anybody from Public Works there, but if maybe we could get more information. | really am concerned about it because we
both have been going round and round for months on this one.

President Wilshire

Mr. Sullivan is here.

Matt Sullivan, Planning Director

I’d be happy to address this question. For the record, Matt Sullivan, Planning Director for the City of Nashua. The
uncertainly that Alderman Cathey referred to at the Planning Board level was that this specific situation is bit of an unclear
one in that we are not certain whether to treat it as a private driveway or as a private road. Therefore there was some

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consideration that trash pick-up may, in fact, be provided to the site based on its unique status at the cap of the road as it
stands.

In speaking to representatives from the Public Works Department, it will ultimately come to Solid Waste to make to make
a decision. It is not similar to the Manchester Street situation which involves multiple private units on a larger private road
and therefore there is a differentiation. All be it we do not know exactly what will happen with this specific proposal this
evening. That was the uncertainty that we spoke to at the Planning Board level however. | want to make that very clear
that there is a difference in the two circumstances.

President Wilshire

Thank you very much.

Matt Sullivan, Planning Director

Of course.

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you Madam President. While we are on the subject matter and this is really for the benefit for some of the newer
Alderman, but being on Infrastructure for a while as Chairman, we get these occasional blips like this. Property within the
city is coming down to I’m not saying overbuilt, but what was once considered a vacant lot now is being occupied. But the
street numbers have been numbered. The system up in Concord - in case you do not know - but all 911 calls go to
Concord. From Concord, they get fed out to the individual communities. So that’s the “E”. It stands for “Enhanced 911
System”. They can tell exactly where the call is being made from and everything so it is imperative.

We have the authority as a municipality to grant an exception and we have in the past such as like an address number 19
and then the next one would be off numbered or something like that just to allow. At some future point, we may need to
renumber the City if we ever get to that, but we have had several examples such as New Searles Road that | can think of
and other different things. If you have questions of what the E911 what it basically means, but I’m glad to see that this
one is very simple. It seems to meet the Fire Marshal’s approval which means it meets Concord’s approval. | don’t have
any problem with making Concord frown on occasion, but it just seems to meet the standards so I’m content with this.
Thank you.

President Wilshire

Mr. Sullivan did you want to add something to that?

Matt Sullivan, Planning Director

| did receive an email this morning from Fire Marshal Pouliot at 9:25 a.m. stating, “Good morning Matt, | met with Mr.
Plante on Roby Street yesterday morning to view the site to make sure it will meet our requirements. After viewing the
site, the Fire Marshal’s office has no concern with this project moving forward”. | also spoke to the Fire Marshal this
evening just before the meeting he confirmed that | could represent that he did, in fact, confirm that the site complies with
his expectations. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you. So the motion is to amend with the copy that was given handout this evening.
MOTION CARRIED

MOTION BY ALDERMAN LOPEZ FOR FINAL PASSAGE AS AMENDED
MOTION CARRIED

NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS

Joint Convention with Trustees of Woodlawn/Pinewood Cemeteries

There being no objection, President Wilshire accepted the communication, placed it on file, and scheduled a Joint

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Convention with the Trustees of Woodlawn/Pinewood Cemeteries for Tuesday, March 22, 2022, at 7:30 p.m. in the
Aldermanic Chamber.

Appointments by the Mayor

Board of Registrars

Andriana Lopera Espitia Term to Expire: December 31, 2024
137 Chestnut Street, Apt. 2
Nashua, NH 03060

Gwendolyn Mikailov Term to Expire: December 31, 2024
11 Appletree Green
Nashua, NH 03062

Cultural Connections

Sandra Pratt Term to Expire: March 1, 2025
24 Gingras Drive
Nashua, NH 03063

Rosemary Ford Term to Expire: March 1, 2025
22 Nova Road
Nashua, NH 03064

There being no objection, President Wilshire accepted the Appointments by the Mayor as read and referred them
to the Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee.

REPORTS OF COMMITTEE

Finance Committee ............ 00. cece ccc ce ccc eee cee cece ee eee cea e eee e etna se eae ee ve eeeeteaveevgeetaeenetanvaes 02/16/2022

There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the February 16, 2022 Finance Committee be
accepted and placed on file.

CONFIRMATION OF MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS

Community Development Director

Matthew Sullivan Term to Expire: Indefinitely
229 Main Street
Nashua, NH

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the appointment of Matthew Sullivan, 229 Main Street,
Nashua, as the Community Development Director with an indefinite term.

Oath of Office administered by Corporation Counsel

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-22-008
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons

Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire

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ESTABLISHING AN EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND FOR 14 COURT STREET EXPENSES, FUNDED BY
APPROPRIATIONS
Given its second reading;

President Wilshire

Alderman O’Brien

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you Madam President, | would like to make a motion for final passage of R-22-008 and if allowed, I’d like to make
brief comments on my motion?

President Wilshire

Yes.

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you Madam President. Folks if there are any questions on this, please go to 14 Court Street and take a look at it.
The building is tired. It’s been a property of the city for an awful long time. Its history was once was a fire station. It was
vacated in 1971 and since then it was brought back to life as the former Mayor Streeter Theater that was located in it.
Within it there are the Peacock Players and different other community groups. My own daughters took Irish step dancing
at that facility and so it has a connection with the community, particularly with the youth. But again, | have been there, |
have used the bathrooms there, | have seen the theater itself get very, very tired.

At the whim of a city Budget at times we kind of meet a crunch. Does money really go into it? It’s very easy to take a
pencil and eraser and cross off a line item. But if we put it into an expendable trust, what we will be doing is earmarking a
nominal amount of money into this project to help maintain this valuable asset for the community. So therefore | urge you
to vote with me in support of this. It’s something of a gem. As firefighters, it does have some historical content. | guess
the horses names that ran out of the building was “Ash and Cinder”, go figure, but anyways. It does have a historical
content to the City and so therefore | think it’s well worth to have the trust fund. Thank you Madam President.

Alderman Lopez

| agree with what Alderman O’Brien said. The building being characterized as the reason we’re keeping it is because of
the fire relays. That may be true, but that’s not the reason — that’s knowledge to me, but | do know when we'’re talking
about the performing arts center from the very beginning there was great concern from the community performers that we
would be building a performing arts center designed to bring in large scale audience acts and outside performers at the
detriment of them. We wouldn’t be remembering that they needed a place to perform. It might be losing the community
theater and for people who may not participate in that or experience it themselves, | can see how this might look like we're
trying to add meaning to a building, but | don’t think we are. | think that building has served a tremendous amount of need
over the years. I’ve seen many shows in both the upper and lower theater and it does have a heritage to it. | think it’s an
essential resource for our theater community. | think it’s important to support them as they come back from COVID
because a lot of their shows were entirely shut down if not heavily scaled-back due to occupancy numbers and that type
of thing. They deserve as much of a chance to return to normal as anybody else does. | think they enrich our community
by doing that, so I’ve been personally an advocate of improving Court Street Theater and supporting the groups that
interact with it for years because of its place in the community not because of any particular operational attributes that it
has.

| do recognize it as one of the first fire stations. It has historical relevance and | find that using it as a community center
and for community performance groups and in the very ways that are developing for it. It maintains that historical legacy
without just becoming a shrine that we have to pay money to maintain. So | consider this to be an efficient and effective
use of the space as it is currently configured. We have Liquid Therapy - a business operating out of there generating
revenue for us, increasing traffic to that area, keeping it viable. We have the potential for many more community
performances to take place there. There are artist lofts inside as well supporting local artists who need space to do their
work and to create. It’s in good proximity to the Public Library, the expanded parking that the Public Library offers when
they have shows.

It’s a great reason and | would consider it poorly conceived to suggest simply removing it and sending groups that have
performed in Nashua for years just to go find space elsewhere in Downtown where that’s not quite as easy as it may

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appear to some people to be. There are not a lot of large open-spaced buildings downtown. It was a challenge. The
reason that the performing arts center wasn’t suggested until Alec opened up is because there wasn't going to be a place
big enough. So | would say personally none of my motivation was for fire switches or alarm relays, it was because that’s
a hub for the community, not just downtown, but for the entire city and it’s important for us to keep it. Thank you.

Alderman Sullivan

| would like to make a motion to take this resolution and move it back to budget. Could | speak to that?
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SULLIVAN TO REFER R-22-008 TO THE BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Sullivan

The reason | want to do it is 1) for my understanding when | looked at it, Alderman Clemons was the main endorser of this
legislation. Unfortunately, Alderman Clemons wasn’t at the Budget Committee last week to speak to it when we
recommended it for approval of which | did. Second, and not to put Miss Kleiner’s or put words in her mouth, she was
called on to speak to it. | don’t think she was prepared to speak to it but did an admirable job. Finally since it came to
trust funds, | had uncovered some information as far as we have a City Trust Fund now. | just thought that since | had
uncovered some more information, I'd like to move that back to Committee. I’m not saying I’m for or against the
resolution. | would simply like to talk about it more, if there is no time limit on this if we pass it in another month, it doesn’t
do anything.

President Wilshire

Motion is to re-refer. Alderman Clemons?

Alderman Clemons

Thank you. | appreciate the enthusiastic support from Alderman O’Brien and Alderman Lopez and I’m sure others. | had
requested through the Chairman to hold this at the committee level because | was on vacation last week and was unable
to attend that meeting, so I’m not sure why it did move forward but | have no objection to it going back to the Budget
Committee meeting to be discussed further.

Alderman Klee

Yes, thank you Madam Chair. | am going to be very honest with you. When | spoke to Director Kleiner about this, one of
the comments she had made were the leases are coming up. | think one of the key things that Director Kleiner had
spoken to was relative to the good faith that we give to the people who are renting and leasing, etc., and that we are
showing them that we are going to be using it. The trust fund that, | believe, Alderman Sullivan was speaking about is the
City Building Trust Fund. | asked Director Kleiner specifically what is that money used for and she told me it’s primarily for
City Hall, but that at times it has been used to the Hunt, therefore showing that the Hunt is not self-sustaining itself. Public
works as well as Public Health buildings. So we have used the money for other things.

Right now it’s sitting at $269,767.87. There have been building ground maintenance, security equipment that has been
spent this year, so the money does get used. If someone feels that it’s too much money that’s sitting there, well that is
their opinion but | do feel that moving forward with this where we’ve got leases that are coming up and pending, we’re only
going to be putting it further back and perhaps Alderman Dowd can speak to when the Budget Committee would actually
be able to hear this. | think I'll leave it at that. Thank you.

Alderman Cathey

| was also on the Budget Committee and Alderman Sullivan and | had quite a few questions about how the Expendable
Trust Fund works. | believe we both, and | don’t want to put words in his mouth, came from the point of view of “why”?
Why do we need this action in order to take care of this building? Director Kleiner said she would sent us some materials
and she did send us a report based on the expenses and revenue on the building. This action says that we can only put
in the equivalent amount of the revenues the building generates. For next year that’s $40,000. That means we've only
put in 40 which is 80, but the projected expenses are, | believe, $120. So that’s another $40,000 that we’re short. So
we're not even getting up to the maintenance costs to take care of the building which is a far cry from letting the building
be “revenue neutral” if we’re lucky.

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Then on top of that, the roof didn’t even come out of maintenance costs. To my understanding, it came out of capital
improvements. So if we need to keep spending big expenses on things on the building that are going to come out of
funds elsewhere in the budget, then having this trust fund which has been bleeding money for at least the past 3 years.
It’s probably longer, | don’t know if the expendable trust fund a) does the job that it’s supposed to do, and b) is worthwhile
in the long run because it’s going to require a lot more money from the budget anyway.

So even with those thoughts, | think it does deserve more conversation back on the committee level. I’m not saying I’m
definitely against it, but | would love to have more conversation about why this is the way to go when | believe there are
other actions and other opportunities. | understand there are tenants and they want to have good faith, but | think
showing good faith is doing the due diligence to make sure that we don’t just pass an action or resolution but rather we
solve the problem long-term and think about second and third order affects and how we can actually get this building to
the desired goal we want. Thank you.

Alderman Thibeault

Yeah, I’m not really for putting it back in the Budget Committee. | just look like it’s going to delay it longer. If we are
putting this money into another trust fund or we’re not putting it in another trust fund, honestly what is going to happen is
this building is going to be forgotten about because there are other buildings that are going to be looked at as more
important. This isn’t just a historical thing. | mean | went there as a kid. It’s a fire station, it’s performing arts, my
daughter went there for drama. Now she’s studying Biology so obviously that didn’t work, but you know what at the end of
the day I’m afraid - and Chairman O’Brien said it perfectly - that “this building will get lost in the shuffle” and it’s a great
location, a lot of parking, people can eat outside without any barriers. It’s something that if it goes back and we lose
tenants, or people start getting frustrated and they go somewhere else, then we’re going to lose that building.

Director Kleiner did a good job in sending us information. That building does need a lot of work. To Alderman Cathey’s
point $40,000, $80,000 isn’t going to be all the money we’re going to need to fix that building, but it’s a start to something
that no one can touch for something else. | think Alderman Dowd said it in the Budget Committee or Finance Committee
that we still have to put the money in there every year. It doesn’t automatically go in there, so we still as a Board of
Alderman have to do that. | think we should keep it today and not have the amendment.

Alderman Dowd

As Chair of Budget | don’t have any problem going back to Budget, | don’t know when we can schedule it in, but we'll do
our best. A couple of things — Junior Actor Singers also uses that building. My daughters have all been in a number of
performances there.

The other thing is expendable trust funds is not someplace we hide money. It takes legislative action to put something in
and there are specific spending parameters on money taken out. It’s in the budget and budget book every budget year,
so it’s not hidden. It’s very transparent but if you want to go back to Budget, that’s fine with me.

Alderman Comeau

Thank you Madam President. | also | don’t want to put words in anybody’s mouth either, but | didn’t get the sense from
the speakers tonight that any of my colleagues are against maintaining the building, or doing some of these projects, or
funding the projects. | think that my questions personally are procedural in nature. We have a number of trust funds that |
don’t know why we can’t already use. We have capital improvements, general accounts, and downtown improvement
funds. So my confusion is why we need another one when it seems like we may already have the mechanisms in place to
do this work already. So | would definitely support at least having a longer conversation about it so that at least when |
cast my vote | know that it’s informed. Thank you.

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you. I’m inclined to move this forward. | think that I’ve heard about leases. | think that the theater is a diamond-in-
the-rough that we have here in Nashua and having been on the Board of the Symphony, I’ve been in the building many,
many times. It’s under-utilized and it does need some attention and having its own trust fund will allow us to make sure
that money goes directly into this building that really has a lot of potential and | know Alderman Gidge put in the artist
studios, like there is a lot in there that can be happening and as we become a City that is starting to be known for arts and
culture, being outside, coming downtown, | want to make sure we prioritize this building.

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Alderman Clemons

Madam President | motion to move the vote.

MOTION BY ALERMAN CLEMONS TO MOVE THE VOTE
MOTION CARRIED

MOTION BY PRESIDENT WILSHIRE TO RE-REFER R-22-008, BY ROLL CALL

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman Sullivan, Alderman Moran, Alderman Jette, Alderman Clemons,
Alderman Comeau, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Gouveia, Alderman Cathey,
Alderman Wilshire 9

Nay: Alderman O’Brien, Alderwomen Klee, Alderman Lopez, Alderwomen Kelly,
Alderman Thibeault, Alderwomen Timmons 6

MOTION CARRIED

R-22-009
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire

Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman John Sullivan
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, ur.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Alex Comeau
Alderman Tyler Gouveia
Alderman John Cathey
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons

APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NASHUA BOARD
OF POLICE COMMISSIONERS AND UFPO LOCAL 645 PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES OF THE NASHUA POLICE
DEPARTMENT FROM JULY 1, 2022 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2026

Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN DOWD FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-22-009

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Dowd

This went unanimously through Budget and the request for percentage increases are very reasonable based on a lot of

history of negotiations. They have also agreed to the City’s healthcare which is a big step. We're trying to get that from
all our unions and they agreed without reservation. So they have taken all the steps that we have been asking of unions
to take and therefore through the recommendation of the Chief, | suggest that we pass it.

President Wilshire

Further discussion? Seeing none.

MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-22-009 declared duly adopted.

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R-22-010
Endorsers: Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman John Sullivan
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Alex Comeau
Alderman Tyler Gouveia
Alderman John Cathey
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF SIDEBAR AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE NASHUA BOARD OF POLICE
COMMISSIONERS AND THE FIVE NASHUA POLICE DEPARTMENT UNIONS REGARDING A POLICE
DEPARTMENT RECRUITING INCENTIVE
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CATHEY FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-22-010, BY ROLL CALL

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Dowd

Again, unanimous decision by the Budget Committee to bring forward the recommendation to pass. This money is
coming directly out of the police account. There is no additional funding required out of the budget and it makes the
police officers another set of recruiters to get officers onto the police force.

President Wilshire

Discussion? Seeing none.
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-22-010 declared duly adopted.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O0-22-004
Endorsers: Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Richard Dowd
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
PROHIBITING A RIGHT TURN ON RED FROM ADVENTURE WAY ONTO DANIEL WEBSTER HIGHWAY
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN THIBEAULT FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-22-004

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Thibeault

So right turn red. The DPW contacted me a couple months ago about this and they were getting some complaints about
since they put the Bu’s gas station on Daniel Webster Highway that when people are doing a U-turn, people are taking a
right turn on red, it’s getting more dangerous than it was before. It’s always been a smaller problem but now that there is
more traffic, it’s definitely been an issue. So they reached out to me and | said that’s not my Ward go see Alderman

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