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Alderman Cathey

Thank you.

President Wilshire

| did see that on the news tonight. | thought that was pretty interesting. They pay you to learn and pretty good deal.
Anyone else?

Alderman Jette

| think the Mayor for supporting downtown business. | heard an inflation was going up. | think $98 is what | paid for the
last suit that | bought.

Mayor Donchess

Is that the one you've got on?

RECOGNITION PERIOD — None

READING MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS - None

COMMUNICATIONS REQUIRING ONLY PROCEDURAL ACTIONS AND WRITTEN REPORTS
FROM LIAISONS

From: Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager
Re: Communications Received from the Public

There being no objection, President Wilshire accepted the communication and placed it on file.

PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RELATIVE TO ITEMS EXPECTED TO BE ACTED UPON THIS EVENING - None

COMMUNICATIONS REQUIRING FINAL APPROVAL

There being no objection, President Wilshire suspended the rules to allow for the introduction of a
communication received after the agenda was prepared.

From: Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director
Re: Assessing Project with Inception Technologies

President Wilshire

I'd like to recognize Director Kim Kleiner.

Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director

Good evening Madam President, members of the Board. Thank you for allowing me to be here this evening. I’d like to
give a little bit of background if you don’t mind. Back on July 15'" of 2020 we brought a proposal to the Finance
Committee with Inception Technology for the scanning of the property record files. This contract in the amount of $59,638
was being charged against GOFERR funds. At that time, we clarified that this was only an estimate and additional
charges would come forward should the records exceed the amount estimated. To date, $52,245 have been invoiced
leaving a balance of $7,392.

Over the past year and a half, we have provided boxes of records to Inception. Often 100 at atime. They are signed out
and they are signed in. These records have been scanned into a docuware database. Over the past year and a half, a
number of other changes have taken place. During the shutdown caused by COVID, we were slowed significantly on the
number of boxes which could be transferred. Ms. Ocha, an employee of the Admin. Services Division became a trainer
on the system and she left the city. Five other employees within the Assessing Department familiar with the project also
left the city and five new employees were hired. The Assessing Department has been focusing on the tasks that are
statutorily required by the State of New Hampshire, including abatements, exemptions, and credits, and a full measure
and list revaluation. Currently, we have 28 boxes which are at Inception Technologies in the process of being scanned

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against the original contract. They also have another 55 boxes which they will need to have put on a new quote and we
will need to bring Finance a change order. We also have 98 boxes within the Assessing Department ready for scanning.
These 153 boxes plus an additional 20 gigabytes of storage have been quoted for $44,000. The Assessing Department
has funds currently within their existing budget. We are working with Inception to bring the quotes to the Finance
Committee. This does not include the public interface that would be required so that the public could access the
documents which is quoted at an additional $7,500.

As we stated back in July of 2020 at that Finance Committee meeting, the files uploaded to docuware remain in a private
status until they are reviewed by the Assessing staff. Files will then have to be reviewed, private information redacted,
and then saved as public documents. We are currently working to arrange the training of our staff. The current
revaluation in preparation for the July tax bills must take priority. This was a huge undertaking for the Assessing
Department. Twenty-nine thousand plus property record files. I’m proud of their accomplishments on this project and
many others in the midst of many, many challenges.

Last week Chief Vincent and | received several e-mails on the project from a resident who also coped the State DRA and
the Nashua Police Department. Information and misinformation in those e-mails caused me to reach out to the vendor.
During our conversation with Ray Feoli, President of Inception Technologies, he informed me that a city employee named
Ms. Ortolano had also reached out to him regarding the project and indicated that she could expedite payment on the
remaining project. | informed Mr. Feoli she was not employed by the city and for many reasons which was concerning to
him. | informed him that | would update the Board on the project, especially with a quote going to Finance. He indicated
that he would be happy to speak with you should you request he do so.

Sunday | received the e-mail from Mr. Feoli that is on your desk this evening. Today | was contacted by Mr. Feoli again
and he had expressed that his office received four calls this morning which he had not returned. Mr. Feoli and Inception
Technologies have been a pleasure to work with and provide the city with exceptional service. We certainly hope that that
will continue into the future. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you Director Kleiner.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN TO ACCEPT THE COMMUNICATION FROM KIMBERLY KLEINER AND PLACE
IT ON FILE

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Moran

What are we going to do to make sure our contractors know they’re speaking to a city employee?

President Wilshire

Well that’s a good question for the Legal Department | guess or for the Mayor.

Alderman Moran

This is very, very concerning.

President Wilshire

Very concerning.

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

We've discussed that today at some length. We’re going to recommend some provisions be inserted in contracts
essentially warning our vendors and contractors that they should exercise caution and make sure that if they received
unsolicited phone calls, they should take care not to accept on face value if someone represents themselves as calling
from the City of Nashua that that may not mean they are employed by the City of Nashua. We'll be investigating how best
to incorporate such provisions into contracts, and purchase orders, and other arrangements.

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Alderwoman Timmons

Yes you asked to suspend the rules. Normally we vote on the suspend the rules and | just want to make sure that the
process remain intact because we didn’t vote on suspending the rules. So do we vote here on suspending the rules? We
do not. Okay.

President Wilshire

No. | said without objection. No one objected.

Alderwoman Timmons

Oh okay. All right. | just wanted to clarify that.

President Wilshire

Okay, that’s fair.

Alderman Cathey

Obviously | haven’t been here since 2020 so | might be unfamiliar with the entire scope of the project so | apologize if my
question is off the mark. Could we as Aldermen find out when there’s and ETA on when the files could be accessed so
the public would know when the project is either going to be completed, or near completion, or any sort of information
about this project with Inception Technologies?

President Wilshire

| would have to defer to Director Kleiner.

Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director

Certainly. Kim Kleiner. This is a project of huge magnitude. So 29,000 property record files were estimated right now
over 1.3 million documents. So you can imagine what the review of those documents is going to put and roughly to be
totally honest, our staff has to work on the revaluation. That is our priority. We are mandated to do it by the BTLA. We
would like to see if it’s possible to get some assistance from other staff. There is an employee in my office who’s familiar
with the Right to Know and with public documents and she could assist. These employees need to be trained on the
system, and then they need to redact and review the files, and then we need to install the interface. | would not want to
put any type of time limit on it and be unable to meet that deadline.

Alderman Cathey

Follow up? Thank you. So when you send the boxes away to Inception are those files then if someone in the public were
to request something that was in those boxes, they are inaccessible whilst they're at Inception Technologies until they
come back to the office? Is that correct?

Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director

That is correct. That has been the practice because the assessing staff has not completed any training. Having said that,
| made it a point on Friday to go through some training and then again this morning with Mr. Feoli to go through some
training. So if worse came to worse, | will access the documents.

Alderman Cathey

Just one more. Thank you. So if | understand it correctly, the plan is once all of the files have been scanned and then
looked at by Legal or whomever to redact information, then they would become available digitally to the public. Is that
correct?

Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director

Certainly. Our intention was always to make these documents available. So once they’re looked at, and redacted, and

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marked public by assessing staff and they’re interface is installed, it would actually be linked to our city website. That link
would bring them into a public version of the docuware system.

Alderman Cathey

Okay, great. Thank you. | appreciate it.

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

May | correct something that was just said?

President Wilshire

Attorney Bolton.

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

The Legal Department will not be going through 29,000 copies.

Alderman Cathey

Thank you.

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you Madam President. | don’t know through you to the Legal or to Kim, whoever is best to answer this. This is
very concerning. Is this being referred to any other agency for further investigation?

Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director

Yes it has been reported to the Nashua Police Department.

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you.

Alderman Sullivan

Thank you Madam President. Question for Director Kleiner. You had mentioned that the documents were on a private or
in private status? Is that with the city or is that with the company that has done the scanning? Where do those
documents sit right now currently?

Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director

Great question. They sit on the docuware cloud. When | say “in private status’, that’s a setting on the document that
doesn't allow them to be accessed if we did have the public interface. So it’s a marking and an indication on the
document and when assessing staff go in and review it, they will remove that flag which makes it then a public document.

Alderman Sullivan

Thank you. Follow up please.

President Wilshire

Thank you Madam President.

Alderman Sullivan

With regard to the letter, | just skimmed it seeing it just got it this evening and as far as it’s been sent to the Nashua Police
Department, at what point do we get involved here and understanding either both sides of the story or see what’s going
on. | underlined the word “thinking” a few times in the letter which maybe that is not clear by the person that wrote it or

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maybe misunderstanding. | don’t know. So | am just bringing that up as this is a communication from one side. | don't
know what happens from here but | would like to hear both sides of the story if possible.

Alderwoman Kelly

| just had a clarification in terms of the cost. | know you’re going to come to Finance but you had said that there was an
additional cost to make them public. That was always part of the plan or is that now an additional fee that is outside of the
scope?

Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director

It was always part of the plan. We just received the quote because | asked him. | said moving in that direction | don't
expect — it’s certainly not going to be within this fiscal year so preparing for next fiscal year, | wanted to have that figure to
put in the budget for the next fiscal year.

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you Ms. Kleiner.
Alderman Klee
Madam President, I’m going to waive off right at the moment. | Know hard to believe but yes.

President Wilshire

Alderman Sullivan when something is being investigated by the police, we have no role there. Okay. So at this point we
have no role in that.

Alderman Sullivan

Got it. Thank you.

President Wilshire

You're welcome.
MOTION CARRIED

From: Mayor Jim Donchess
Re: Multi-Year Contract Award — Software Licensing: Benefits Administration

MOTION BY ALDERMAN KLEE TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND AWARD A BID TO ALIGHT FOR THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ALIGHT BENEFITS ADMINISTRATION SOLUTION FOR ALL INSURANCE PLANS FOR
THE CITY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $480,000 ($160,000 A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS). FUNDING
THROUGH DEPARTMENT: 113 BENEFITS; FUND: 54400 SOFTWARE LICENSING/BENEFITS INTERNAL SERVICE
FUND

MOTION CARRIED

From: Mayor Jim Donchess
Re: TIF Contract Award — Environmental Permitting for the Riverfront

MOTION BY ALDERMAN COMEAU TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR
PROFESIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATED TO THE NASHUA DOWNTOWN RIVERFRONT
IMPLEMENTATION PROJECT WITH VANASSE HANGEN BRUSTLIN, INC. (VHB, INC.)

IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $225,365. FUNDING THROUGH DEPARTMENT: 183 ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT; FUND: 53107 ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING SERVICES/RIVERFRONT TIF FUND
MOTION CARRIED

PETITIONS

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Petition for Authorization for Issuance of Building Permits for a Building on a Private Road - 19 Roby Street

There being no objection, President Wilshire accepted the Petition for Authorization for Issuance of Building
Permits for a Building on a Private Road — 19 Roby Street and referred it to the Committee on Infrastructure and
Planning Board.

NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS

The following appointments by the Mayor were read into the record:

Community Development Director

Matthew Sullivan Term to Expire: Indefinitely
229 Main Street
Nashua, NH

There being no objection, President Wilshire accepted the Appointment by the Mayor as read and referred it to
the Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee.

REPORTS OF COMMITTEE

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There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the January 19, 2022 Finance Committee be accepted
and placed on file.

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There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the January 24, 2022 Budget Review Committee be
accepted and placed on file.

CONFIRMATION OF BOARD OF ALDERMEN AND MAYOR’S APPOINTMENTS - None

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-22-002
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Ernest A. Jette
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Alex Comeau
Alderman Tyler Gouveia
AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF $1,810 FROM THE CONSERVATION FUND
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CATHEY FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-22-002
MOTION CARRIED

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES - None

NEW BUSINESS —- RESOLUTIONS

R-22-008
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons

Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire

Board of Aldermen 02-08-2022 Page 9

ESTABLISHING AN EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND FOR 14 COURT STREET EXPENSES, FUNDED BY
APPROPRIATIONS

Given its first reading; Assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-22-009
Endorsers:

Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman John Sullivan

Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Alex Comeau

Alderman Tyler Gouveia

Alderman John Cathey

Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons

APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NASHUA
BOARD OF POLICE COMMISSIONERS AND UFPO LOCAL 645 PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES OF THE NASHUA
POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM JULY 1, 2022 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2026

Given its first reading; Assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-22-010
Endorsers:

Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman John Sullivan

Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Alex Comeau

Alderman Tyler Gouveia

Alderman John Cathey

Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire

APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF SIDEBAR AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE NASHUA BOARD OF POLICE
COMMISSIONERS AND THE FIVE NASHUA POLICE DEPARTMENT UNIONS REGARDING A POLICE DEPARTMENT
RECRUITING INCENTIVE

Given its first reading; Assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

NEW BUSINESS - ORDINANCES

O-22-004
Endorsers:

Alderman Derek Thibeault

Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Richard Dowd
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons

PROHIBITING A RIGHT TURN ON RED FROM ADVENTURE WAY ONTO DANIEL WEBSTER HIGHWAY
Given its first reading; Assigned to the COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE by President Wilshire

O-22-005
Endorsers:

Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.

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Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
UPDATING THE FINANCIAL STANDARDS FOR THE CITY’S WELFARE GUIDELINES
Given its first reading; Assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

Laurie Ortolano

Laurie Ortolano, 41 Berkeley Street. Madam President I’d like to ask for an extension of time given what happened here
tonight.

President Wilshire

No. We have a three minute time period. That’s the end.
Laurie Ortolano

| did not know Ms. Kleiner was going to be granted an exception to speak to an item that | could have spoken to as an
item being acted on.

President Wilshire

You're wasting your time so just get on with it.
Laurie Ortolano

Please don't interrupt me. It’s very concerning to me that she could come to the microphone and defame my reputation,
and make the statement she made about requiring a police investigation, and me impostering a city official which is
completely inaccurate, and not go into nonpublic session to allow my reputation to stay intact. | had to go into nonpublic
session when | discussed an abatement regarding an assessor whose name was never used because the city wanted to
protect the assessor. It was just about an abatement value. | come here and | hear the entire public just got a report that
I’m under criminal investigation for impostering a city employee and it never happened. | wrote an e-mail. | absolutely did
make those calls. | want you to all know as well that Tim Cummings has sent me responses to Right to Knows where he
has told me to contact vendors myself. Call them. That’s how the city is directing me to handle my comments, my
concerns.

| called Inception Technology two months ago. | never hid it. | called them again last week because of information from a
Board of Assessor’s meeting. | wrote an e-mail to the city to tell them | did it. Do you think | would be that forthcoming if |
wanted to imposter somebody? If! was being sneaky? The guy’s phone number is in my phone. | sent him an e-mail
today and | didn’t make four phone calls to speak to people. | couldn’t reach anyone. They must have tagged it. | did
send an e-mail which he didn't tell you to Ray the President to ask him to look for the property record file for the arts
center that I’m trying to track. Here you’ve got Tim Cummings telling me to contact the company in Boston doing the
parking surveys and get the data down there yourself. You're trying to figure out what regulations you’re going to put in
against citizens contacting vendors. Are you kidding me? | can’t tell you how upset | am because | can’t even defend
myself.

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

30 seconds.
Laurie Ortolano

There are two sides to a story and | had no idea. I’ve been nothing but forthright with this city and Ms. Kleiner to share
these communications and once again, | come in and | am ambushed in this meeting. Completely ambushed. | didn’t
even have the courtesy of getting the documents you all have. | have no rights in this city. Where are the First
Amendment rights for your citizens? Where’s my side? Where’s the nonpublic session to protect my reputation.

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Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

Time.
Laurie Ortolano
Please start thinking about that.

Matthew Gouthro

Matthew Gouthro, 104 Fawn Lawn. Thank you Madam President, Mayor and Aldermen. While we can all agree that our
Public Works Department does a great job supporting our city, this Friday’s past storm demonstrated some
inconsistencies where we need to do better. On Friday, February 1*', we experienced the storm in which we can only
describe as a wintery mix that cancelled school and many other happenings in our city. My concern in which | brought to
the attention of my Alderman that day and now to you today that it seems ridiculous that we can’t have our Public Works
vehicles in our neighborhood to plow our neighbors. In my neighborhood particularly, | didn’t see a Public Works vehicle
until after 4 p.m. that afternoon.

Now | understand there’s a need to clear the main arteries, we here in Nashua pay an extraordinary amount of property
taxes not to have our local neighborhood streets cleared and to be essentially shut into our homes. I’ve reached out to
the Director of Public Works. | still haven’t heard back from her. This seems to be a problem where whenever some of us
in the community reach out to the Director of Public Works it seems as if she’s not very responsive to us — the
stakeholders and taxpayers in our community. | would hope that you would reach out to her on our behalf to see what we
can do so that we can avoid this from happening again. Thank you.

REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN

Alderman Thibeault

I’ve got a few remarks so please bear with me. | like to use my remarks to note on positive things like | did a couple of
weeks ago with the basketball player from South. Today that’s not going to be the case. I’m going to talk about a few
things real quick. Mask Mandates. So I’m sure we've all been getting tons of e-mails on mask mandates. People were
trying to want me to think about it differently and maybe overturn this mask mandate which there’s no real way to do that
in this meeting today. It wasn’t on the agenda. I’ve been asked to do motions. I’m not going to do that. | don’t think
that’s the right way to try to get that put through. People are saying that — the people who want masks are doing it for
political theater and from my angle it’s not. | believe in masks. Whether it’s right or wrong, that’s what | believe. | believe
in trying to save people from getting sick and people from dying. With that being said, no one is telling me to do that or
say that. With that being said, going around the city — | went to three stores today. No one had masks in the stores, not
even the people running the stores. Two out of the three didn’t even have a sign. That’s been going on for a while now.
People are telling people not to wear masks. So if we have an ordinance that’s unenforceable, I’m not sure it’s right to
keep it going but I’m not going to try to put that on the agenda tonight.

Number two. | wanted to mention in schools currently when there’s a sporting event, there is a limit to how many people
can watch the sporting event — basketball, wrestling, or whatever it may be. | sent an e-mail two weeks ago to our AD
asking her to look into that and maybe to repeal that. It’s not coming from us. Unfortunately she told the coach and she
never went back to me that it was the city that was causing that. Ifthe city was causing that then when you go to the Rec.
games, there would be a limit. There was more people at the Rec. games — the Biddy, the Jr. Biddy, the Bantam, than
can go to at the high school games. | look at a senior — and just so you know, | don't have a kid involved in any of this
stuff so it’s not based on any of my children — but a kid that’s a senior in his last basketball game might want to invite more
than a few people but you can go see the Jr. Biddy kid and have 50 people there if you want. So | really think and | hope
she’s listening. Repeal that. It’s not coming from the city. | think it’s disingenuous to say that it’s coming from us instead
of taking ownership that she made that rule. | hope she’s hearing this.

Next, so today | saw on Facebook and I’m not going to put the person’s name out there. They were telling parents to tell
their kids when they go to school to defy the mask mandate. This person has a following so people might listen. This
person does not have any kids in our public schools. They go to private so | don’t see the reason to cause this kind of
insurrection in our school systems. It’s wrong. It’s putting kids in the middle of something that’s not theirs to be in the
middle. It’s putting teachers in a bad spot. It’s dangerous. Again, we put orders in. We put ordinances in. We put
resolution in and whatever. People aren’t following them, that’s a problem. To tell kids to do that is just wrong. Whether
you believe in the masks or not, it’s wrong.

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Lastly, and I’m sorry that I’m taking up so much time. Teachers and the union. We have to get this contract settled.
Union — you have to get back to the table. Board of Education — you have to meet with them and you have to make the
concessions. We have to get this contract done. We’re losing teachers. Forty-one teachers are retiring. That’s double
what normally retires. It’s not that we just have 41 teachers that are at the retiring age. | think they’re just fed up with the
way schools are dealt with today. You cannot manage a classroom like you used to when we were all kids, except for
Tyler. You can’t manage that. Teachers feel threatened by parents and they’re leaving. So this contract is just another
piece of that. We have to get them back to the table. We have to keep teachers. Young teachers are being paid too low.
They can go to other cities and make much more money than here. We don't want to lose good teachers. They’re the
ones teaching our kids. I'll leave it as that. | just want to see us doing more in the city. | want to get us back. We have a
good Board of Aldermen and | want us to get back to — and Alderwomen - and | want to get back to doing good things in
the city and having some of this stuff resolved so thank you.

Alderman Cathey

Thank you. I, too, have a few questions and thoughts. First, I’d like to echo what Derek is saying about teachers feeling
threatened. My wife and | have talked to many a teacher who feel disinclined to take cell phones because parents will
complain that cell phones have been taken. | have instructed all the teachers to take my kid’s phone because | don't care.
Do it. Keep them if you want to | don't really care. So | understand that there’s a lot of stress on the teachers for how to
manage classrooms especially with the schools being as large as they are, especially for South and North.

A question. Is the BOE the one controlling the masks for the AD or is it just a separate athletics policy?

Alderwoman Timmons

It’s the BOE.

Alderman Thibeault

Thank you. So the BOE is the masks. The AD controls things like how many people can show up there. She does, | will
say in her defense, she does meet with the Board of Health | think what | was told weekly. So she’s getting her direction
from the Board of Health. Still to say it’s from the city and people come back to me on it, again, if the city was doing it, all
the other city stuff would be limited too.

Alderman Cathey

So separate from the BOE, that’s the policy that she’s implemented for athletics?

Alderman Thibeault

That’s what | believe.

Alderman Cathey

Okay. Good to know.

| had two procedural questions that | don’t really understand. One would be — and we actually talked about this — when
something is not on the agenda — so let’s say someone wanted to bring up the mask mandate for reconsideration can you
do that or does it have to be pre-planned on the agenda? How does that work?

President Wilshire

You can make a motion.

Alderman Cathey

Oh, okay. | didn’t Know police, procedure wise what that looked like.

If we were to object to something, what does that do? When you said, “there being no objection’? If an Alderman
objected, what happens?