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£:00 PM MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
PRESIDENT BRIAN S. MCCARTHY CALLS ASSEMBLY TO ORDER
PRAYER OFFERED BY CITY CLERK PATRICIA PIECUCH

PLEDGE TO THE FLAG LED BY ALDERMAN-AT-LARGE DAVID C. TENCZA
ROLL CALL

MAYOR’S ANNUAL STATE-OF-THE-CITY ADDRESS

ADJOURNMENT

FEBRUARY 20, 2018

A special meeting of the Board of Aldermen was held Tuesday, February 13, 2018, at 7:00 p.m. in the
Aldermanic Chamber.

President Brian S. McCarthy presided; City Clerk Patricia D. Piecuch recorded.

Prayer was offered by City Clerk Patricia D. Piecuch; Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws led in the
Pledge to the Flag.

The roll call was taken with 15 members of the Board of Aldermen present. Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja and
Alderman Dowd arrived after roll call at 7:07 p.m. and 7:15 p.m., respectively.

Corporation Counsel Steven A. Bolton were also in attendance.
COMMUNICATIONS

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS BE READ BY TITLE ONLY
MOTION CARRIED

From: Brian S. McCarthy
Re: Special Board of Aldermen Meeting

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION CARRIED

PRESENTATION
Nashua Housing Authority
Lynn Lombardi, Executive Director of the Nashua Housing Authority

Over to my left is Eric Wilson, Chairperson of the Board of Commissioners and James Tollner, who is also a
commissioner on my board. We wanted to come here tonight and meet all of you. | know there’s been a big
turnover, and we’ve never had the pleasure of sitting here in front of you. We've put together a brief synopsis
of what we do at the Nashua Housing Authority, how we operate. We are 100 percent federally funded. We
operate both public housing and Section 8.

As far as public housing goes we own and operate and manage 662 units of public housing throughout the City
of Nashua. We do a good job in the City of Nashua. We house those of the lowest income. Families, elderly,
non-elderly disabled. We also run a Section 8 program. It consists of over 800 Section 8 housing choice
vouchers. With that program, we also do project based voucher programming. We have 11 project based
vouchers over at Cotton Mill. We also administer 31 project based vouchers through Southern New
Hampshire Services over at Salmon Brook.

Aside from that we have a small development called Nashua Parkview Apartments, LLC. That is low income
housing, tax credit and HOME funds. We have partnered with the city before. Through our federal funding the
Nashua Housing Authority pays annually to local landlords $7 million to house our families. It is a big program
and costs a lot of money. Our waiting list, our Section 8 program, we are looking at approximately a 7+ year
wait just to obtain a Section 8 voucher to get housing. We do the very best we can. We approach HUD on an
annual basis to see if we can obtain more housing choice vouchers so we can assist more families in need.

Our public housing program, we have well over 2,000 people on our waiting list. Depending on the bedroom
size, families can wait as short as one year for an elderly or non-elderly disabled unit. Our largest need is for
two-bedroom family housing. That bedroom size you're looking at easily a 5+ wait. We're doing the very best
that we can.

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We're looking to expand. We're looking to potentially through our non-profit that hasn’t come to fruition yet, but
we're working on it, the Nashua Affordable Housing Corporation, to tap into alternate resources. We no longer
want to be 100 percent federally funded. It’s just not how we want to operate any longer. We want to look at

other resources that may be out there and provide additional, affordable alternative housing. Safe, affordable,
decent housing for families in need.

Mr. Wilson

Alderman Wilshire and Alderman Lopez for years now have attended our meetings on the third Friday of the
month. Anyone is welcome to attend. | have been on the authority with Jim Tollner close to 18 years now. It
is a great opportunity to serve the city. The two of us are former aldermen. We were in this Chamber years
ago. It’s agreat opportunity for us to serve the city to assist people. You are more than welcome to attend any
of our meetings. If you have any constituents that are in public housing need or Section 8 or elderly housing,
don't hesitate to contact any of us.

Mr. Tollner

We wanted to provide some photos of the buildings. You may not even realize that some of these locations
are Nashua Housing Authority properties. As Lynn mentioned, $7 million goes to Section 8 housing. They are
pretty well spread all over the city. Some of these buildings you are probably familiar with. For instance,
Sullivan Terrace. We spend a lot of money in making sure that they have upgrades. We just had a huge
project last year where we put new elevators in. The makeup of the Housing Authority Board is Eric, myself,
Tom Monahan, Mary Ellen, and we do have a representative that lives in the Housing Authority, Paul
Deschenes. There is five of us. As Eric said, we meet every third Friday of the month, and we do appreciate
the support of the city and the Board of Aldermen.

On behalf to the commissioners, | want to recognize Lynn and her staff. Her staff is listed here on the last
page. HUD actually gave us the score for last year. I’m happy to report we got 100 percent, which is very
difficult with the standards and the criteria that they use. If they go for a review and maybe there’s a plug that’s
hanging out of the wall, we get graded against that. Lynn, you are doing a great job over there and | want to
congratulate everybody at the Housing Authority.

Ms. Lombardi

| am going to be meeting with Tim Cummings regarding the pilot that the Nashua Housing Authority pays to the
City of Nashua, which is the payment in lieu of taxes. Right now we were just approved to add our 40 East
Pearl Street office to that portfolio which would be included in the pilot. About two years ago we were leasing
the upstairs of that building, but we’ve grown large enough now where we can occupy that entire building. We
are going to be meeting with Mr. Cummings to discuss that further.

Mr. Tollner

If you have any questions, you are more than happy to send them to us or ask them now.

Alderman McCarthy

Parkview. As | recall that property was developed by Greater Nashua Housing Services back in about the time
when we were all on the Board. How does that come to be part of the Housing Authority?

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Ms. Lombardi

We had originally partnered with Bridget over at Neighborhood Housing Services. At the time, | was with the
Authority too. We only had one percent interest in the property. When Bridget’s group dissolved, we took
ownership.

Alderman Lopez

You're estimates for the waiting lists says 1,119 families are waiting. Do you have an idea of how many
children are in those families or what type of apartments would be ideal for them?

Ms. Lombardi

In most circumstances, what we see is the greatest need for families is a two-bedroom. Typically either a
single parent with one or two children. That’s our greatest need right now. Most of the families, if not all, on
our waiting list have children unless they are elderly or non-elderly disabled.

Alderman Lopez

| figured I’d ask in case developers were listening.
Alderman Tencza

Once you get the non-profit up and running, what are you hoping to do with that? Is it for more housing or
improve the housing you have and have more flexibility?

Ms. Lombardi

Right now we are in the start-up of discussing those types of things. We've identified the need. All you have to
do is take a glimpse at our waiting list. The need is so great. What we would like to do is provide more
affordable housing, more choice to people who are at low income and need it. As far as updating our current
portfolio, we receive annually from the US Department of Housing and Urban Development capital fund
program grants. Mr. Tollner has discussed some of the elevator upgrades that we did last year. We spent over
$1 million just upgrading all of our elevators throughout our portfolio. We have replaced windows. We have
done all of the roofs. We are always actively updating our developments and keeping the building envelopes
healthy. We typically will spend all of our capital fund monies on just the upgrades needed annually.

Mr. Wilson

The separate non-profit that we have, we’ve been meeting with other housing authorities in the state and trying
to learn new ways that we won't necessarily be tied to the federal HUD funds. With our non-profit organization,
we would be able to buy independent properties, blighted properties or properties that need to be completely
rehabbed or torn down and replaced. That is something that we can do that we won’t be tied necessarily to
HUD funds and HUD requirements. We could purchase a particular property, develop it and then through that
independent non-profit act similar to the way we act now, just not necessarily with the strings to HUD.

Alderman Caron

Quite a few of these buildings are in Ward 7. Some of the issues that have come up over the years, your staff
has been very helpful in giving us the way to follow and what they need to do and what the tenant needs to do
to resolve issues that come up. | commend you and your staff for being there and working very diligently with
the tenant and with us as well. | think you and your staff do a very good job, and | thank you.

CITY OF NASHUA LED STREET LIGHTING CONVERSION PROJECT
REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS
RFPO609-031116

1. INTRODUCTION & BACKGROUND

The City of Nashua, NH (the City) is soliciting proposals from qualified Entities to convert the City’s
existing High Pressure Sodium (HPS) street lights to Light Emitting Diode (LED) street lights. The Entity
will be expected to produce a turnkey project by implementing the conversion of all existing street
lighting in the City to equivalent LED street lights. The Entity will provide labor, materials, supplies,
equipment, facilities, disposal, analysis, digital reports, and the filing of all utility company
documentation for the processing of the utility bills under the new LED rate. It is the City’s goal to
achieve electricity and cost savings, while simultaneously improving lighting quality throughout the City.

2. OBJECTIVES

e Convert approximately 5,500 existing HPS street lights to LED street lights.

© Conduct a street light audit of all existing HPS street lights and develop a plan for the installation
of the LED street light equivalents, in order to develop a consistent illumination standard for the
City while maximizing energy savings.

e Expedite the installation of approximately 5,500 LED fixtures

e Toestablish safe street lighting standards while reducing the City’s energy consumption

e The City is interested in a smart control system for the street lights as a separate proposal item.

e It is the City’s intent to finance the cost of the project through a bond.

3. SCOPE OF SERVICES

For informational purposes. Subject to change.

The City of Nashua LED Street Lighting Conversion Project (the “Project”) will consist of, but is not
limited to, the following work and services:

3.1

3.2

3.3
3.4

3.5

The selected Entity will provide product, labor, and all necessary related materials and
supplies to replace approximately 5,500 roadway street lights (quantity detailed below).
The selected Entity will conduct a “Trial Period” of 3000K LED products vs. 4000K LED
products. See section 5. “PROJECT COMMENCEMENT” below for more information.
The selected Entity will conduct a street light audit prior to commencing work.

The City will provide the Entity with reasonable, secure, on site fixture storage for the

duration of the project.
Installation will occur during normal, non-overtime, work hours.

in connection with each site, the Entity shall:

3.6

3.7

Work with the City’s main point of contact to develop an installation plan that minimizes

inconvenience to the City;
Provide appropriate temporary traffic control measures compliant with the City of

Nashua Division of Public Works and the City of Nashua Police Department (see 7.3.2
below);

RFPOGO9-031116 LED Street Lighting Conversion Project

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Alderman Wilshire

| have a long history with the Housing Authority. | don’t know if | should start at the beginning, but | have a
long history with the Housing Authority as a tenant, as an employee, as a commissioner and now as a liaison.
I'll tell you that they do tremendous work in this community. | can’t say enough good about Lynn and her staff
and a very supportive Board. Thank you all for that. You do great work.

Mr. Wilson

We thank you for the opportunity to speak to put a face with the Authority name. Any questions, please do not
hesitate to contact us.

ADJOURNMENT

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE ADJOURN
MOTION CARRIED

The meeting was declared adjourned at 7:20 p.m.

Attest: Patricia D. Piecuch, City Clerk

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Dick lannacone, 35 Swart Terrace

| feel like Tom Brady in the last 25 seconds of the game trying to win a game. | know everyone pretty well has
their mind made up. There were some good points brought up tonight. One of the things we should look at is
a little history. We are not negative on the performing arts center. Our group has been active with the city
since we came to town in 1979. We have probably donated and raised more than $300,000 plus to give to the
performing arts. Last year alone, we probably had another $35,000 to the endowment fund for the Symphony
New Hampshire. We have been part of the group trying for years to get a performing arts center here.

What's difficult about this, though, is that the procedure that we are using to raise this $15.5 million, correct me
if ’m wrong, but | called again today, and this is not the last minute, I’ve been trying to get an answer to a few
questions, which today | think | got an answer to. You are going to vote tonight to authorize a $15.5 million
bond. It is contingent upon raising $4 million. | disagree with the Mayor. If Amazon promises a million dollars
for four years, | still would not accept it. The money should be in the bank. We should not come back in two
years to the people in Nashua and say we think we have the money, let’s proceed. If | understand it correctly,
we take the bond, we have two years for the bond. We buy the building but the renovations don’t start until the
money is collected. Is that correct? The $4 million? However, today | was told that the Mayor can come back
and say within a year or whatever, we have the funds. But the funds don’t have to be in the bank. | think that’s
wrong to the people of Nashua.

| know today we took off the Cap. I’m a big believe that good fences make good neighbors. It is so easy to sit
down and make some choices without having any parameters to go by, to have the discipline. Here we are
going to raise the money, we are going to have the bond, up to two years to do the bond. The building sits
dormant for two years. That’s 2020. Then if we have the $4 million at that point, then we go ahead and start
renovations on the building. This is quite a long spell before you get to have the downtown improvements that
you are talking about. And by the way, | also thought, and | was in error obviously, that the 4 was at6 %. The
information that has been reported in the paper a few times is that the million dollars that the performing arts
would have this $4 million raised to pay a quarter of the revenues to support the ongoing building. That was
incorrect. Apparently it is $150,000 and then each year the performing arts has to raise $100,000 to pay for
those expenses.

If any of you have been to the Symphony New Hampshire, and oh, by the way, Nancy, Eric, Mark. These
three people came, kept together the jewel of Nashua in the performing arts. It was originally known as
Nashua Symphony. We changed it to Symphony New Hampshire. There was a period of time where we
negotiated with New Hampshire Symphony to combine the two groups together because they were in trouble.
We met many days with Manchester and Nashua, but they didn’t want to do a deal with us. Because of the
group we had, Nancy, Eric, Mark, we prevailed. The so-called Symphony for New Hampshire, the state which
came out of Manchester, they are out. They are gone, and Nashua survived because of the discipline they kept
in running an organization. It’s not that easy. If you go to the Symphony, check the magazine and look at it.
Look at the section that says endowments. Look and see when the last money was raised for endowments for
the Symphony. We’re all strong on that. Where have you been for the last number of years? It is a lot more
difficult.

| differ with you, Mayor, about raising the money. We have a lot of people interested in this thing, but you know
what? Talk is cheap. The money has to be there. Yes, | do advise tonight, that if you are going to make this
motion tonight, make it contingent that that money is going to be there in the bank to do it. Why go two years?
If everyone is serious about this, and we have all the support from all these people, let’s get it going. Why not
say one year with the $4 million? The ones that said they could raise it, and everyone wants this to happen,
4500 entities, people, write a check for $1,000. You have $4.5 million. It’s done. Go for it. I'll be the first
person to write a check for $1,000. | will give it to you right away. Do you have a form? A charitable function
so people can take a deduction for it? Why prolong this thing? If you really believe in it, make the motion
tonight. Don’t be afraid to do that. Say the bond, make it contingent that the money is in the bank, and make it
for one year.

This is something that is needed for Nashua, yes. | am not sure it is the right place. I’m not sure it’s the right
avenue, but everyone else seems to think itis. But let’s everyone get up and write the check to do it. Make

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that motion tonight to make it dependent one year. Make sure it is in the bank, and make sure that Mayor
cannot say: “Hey, it’s okay. Amazon has promised to pay us the money.” It should be in the bank. Thank you
very much.

Philip Scontsas, 14 Ashland Street

Hello again, everybody. Welcome to the new members of the Board. It’s nice to see the fresh faces. I’ve
spoken a couple of times here so it’s nice to be back. This is a very exciting time for Nashua. There is a lot of
enthusiasm about this performing arts center. I’m shocked to hear the young man, the 19 year old man, who
spoke earlier speak about a large group of negative people because that’s not the people that | am speaking
to. | am actually speaking to a lot of people that are very enthused by this and the promise of what this will
bring. | speak to parents who have children that hope that they will stick around after their college days
because of things like this performing arts center, etc. | am also surprised to hear about the people not so sure
about Nashua stepping up with the money. There has been lots of discussion about what plans would be. |
think that’s a little bit of putting the cart before the horse. | hope that tonight you can all find it in your hearts to
vote for this performing arts center that is going to make Nashua just that much better than it already is.

| think with the development of the real estate, the redevelopment of the river, this last piece, it’s just that last
missing piece that we have been talking about for a long time. | think back to all the master plans that we sat
through and everybody that talked to us about what Nashua needs, and this was always on the list of one of
the most highest proprieties of what needed to be done. | hope you can all find it something that you will vote
for and see it be positive and help this city, not just help downtown, but help this whole city be the city it should
be. Thank you.

PETITIONS
Street Re-Numbering Petition (25 New Searles Road and 27 New Searles Road)

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN TO GRANT THE PETITION, IN PART, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT
SHEET B, LOT 1058, BE ASSIGNED THE STREET ADDRESS OF “25A NEW SEARLES ROAD” AND
THAT THERE BE NO ADDRESS CHANGE TO SHEET B, LOT 59

ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Jette

Hearing Ms. Allard, | feel it is difficult for me to talk about this but at the meeting of the Infrastructure
Committee we talked about this. Back when this subdivision was initially approved, this is out on New Searles
Road, there were several lots approved and they were assigned street addresses. One of them was 25 New
Searles Road, upon which there is a building, a house that has been constructed. There was another lot next
to it that remained vacant and then a lot next to that one, upon which a house was built. It was assigned the
address of 29 New Searles Road and then a house next to that was 31. So, you have 25, a vacant lot, and
the vacant lot was assigned the address of 27. Then what is now Mrs. Allard property was assigned the
address of 29 and then the 31. For some unknown reason, someone in Mrs. Allard’s chain of title, someone
who occupied that property before she did, started using the number 27 instead of the 29 that had been
assigned to it. When she bought the house, she continued using the address of 27. A mistake was made.
Now you’ve got a house on 25, you have a vacant lot next to it, you have Mrs. Allard’s property, she is using 27
and then you have 31. Mr. Philbrick, | think his name is, acquired this vacant lot and wants to build a house
onit. It is an approved lot. It is part of the subdivision that goes back a number of years. He can’t get a
building permit until he has an address.

The city has an addressing committee. It is dealing with the assignment of street address numbers. They
wrote a memo to the Board and the committee saying that they strongly recommended that the error that was
developed when whoever owned the property that Mrs. Allard now occupies, when they started using the
wrong number, that that mistake be rectified and that it be given its original address of 29, the vacant lot get
the address of 27 and 25 keeps its 25 and 31 keeps its 31. The reason they strongly recommend this is that

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we are in the process, the whole country is trying to comply with guidelines set out by this E911 commission or
committee in order to make it better, easier for our emergency people to locate properties in the case of an
emergency. Part of their guidelines says that buildings should have whole numbers, not numbers with letters
and not numbers with fractions but whole numbers. We did that back when this subdivision was first approved.
We assigned this property that is now a vacant lot, we assigned it the number 27. Mrs. Allard’s property was
assigned the number 29. A mistake was made and her predecessor and title started using the wrong number.
We have a chance now to remedy, correct this mistake, put it back the way it was supposed to be and comply
with the E911 guidelines.

The whole country is trying to become E911 compliant. Several locations in New Hampshire have already
become so, we have not yet. It’s a job that we are going to be tackling in the next few years. It’s going to be a
difficult job because Nashua is an old city. Nashua, for a number of years, landlords or property owners
assigned address numbers to their properties on their own. For example, | was born here in Nashua at 7 %
Harvard Street. It was a duplex building. The owner of the building had number 7, and we had the apartment
next door. We were 7 %. |’m sure you can think of other properties. | have a client who has a multi-family
property and they have a combination of fractions and letters and stuff. | had the sheriff try to serve a tenant,
and the sheriff had trouble finding the right door because of all these difficulties. The E911 system is trying to
remedy that confusion. Somewhere in the next few years, Nashua is going to be taking these multi-unit
buildings with letters and fractions and assigning numbers to them. For example, a building that is 25, 25A,
25B, 25C would be changed, | think, to something like 25, Apartment 1, Apartment 2, Apartment 3, or
Apartment A, B, C, something along those lines.

So on this property, | have spoken to some of the members of the addressing committee including the fire
marshal, Adam Pouliot. He feels very strongly that we should not assign this 25A. He points out the problems
of emergency personnel trying to locate a building. For example, if somebody has a heart attack and calls on
the phone and says: “Il am having a heart attack, come to 25A New Searles Road”, the emergency people go
out there. They find building 25. Okay, where’s 25A? Is it behind 25? Is it a side entrance to 25? Oh, it’s not
this building at all. It’s the building next door. That’s 25A. Or, they get called to 29 New Searles Road. They
find 25. Okay, so 29 must be two doors down or 27 should be the building next to 25. No, it’s not the building
next to 25. That’s 25A. 27 is the next building down. We've got an opportunity here, | think, to remedy a
problem and avoid confounding a problem, making the situation worse and in a few years, as much
inconvenience as Mrs. Allard feels she might be put through if we reassign her address, somebody is going to
buy her building eventually. The building is going to be built at 25A, somebody is going to occupy that. You’ve
got two more families that are going to have to deal with this reassignment.

So having said all of that, | should have at the Infrastructure Committee meeting moved to table it to get this
information, but I’m brand new. | wasn’t quick enough to think about this. | think that | would like to move that
this be re-referred to the committee so we can hear from the fire marshal and we can hear from Sara Marchant
as to why they feel so strongly about why we shouldn’t do what this amendment will do.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN JETTE TO RE-REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman O’Brien

This request came out upon a cusp. There’s a couple of issues that Alderman Jette didn’t give you 100
percent information on. This came in as a cusp upon the election. My good friend and colleague, Alderman
Siegel, who was the Ward 9 alderman at that time was not able to attend completely to his duties. Being the
Alderman-at-Large and a member of Ward 9, | got pretty involved in it and then in the interim, | became
Chairman of the Infrastructure Committee.

In speaking to the motion, the past history was we already heard from the fire marshal. We received a letter
expressing his point of view. When you weigh the balance, you weigh the balance on matters of law. What
was before us in the Infrastructure Committee was three matters. One is the state RSA. The second is the city
NRO. The third thing is a guide. Only two of them are law. If not, you can ask corporate counsel for a ruling

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on this, but an RSA and NRO are law which gives the authority to the Infrastructure Committee to make a
decision on this particular item.

The other thing that Alderman Jette is talking about is an E911 guide. It’s what “guide” means. It’s a
suggestion. In the perfect world, it probably would be better if we had all the street numbers properly laid out.
But let’s look at the other neighborhoods within the city. This is not the only thing. | think as aldermen, those
of us who have been around our particular wards, know that this isn’t the only one that’s out there.

Then you have concerns for the fire department. | think we hire some pretty smart people, particularly when
we look and say we have Saturn and Satin Streets. Coburn Ave and Coburn Street, Russell Ave and Russell
Street, Lovewell and Lovell, and my favorite: Williams Court, which is not near Williams Street at all. All these
streets are different. All these streets are different. We have a professional department that is able to get to
the particular addresses.

To the defense of the committee’s decision, we did something that is very rare in politics. We made Mrs. Allard
happy, and we were able to make Mr. Philbrick happy by coming to this agreement and giving the number 25A.
Will the fire department be able to distinguish that address? | think they should. For those of you who know
New Searles Road, it’s not congested. It’s laid out as single family homes. It should be fairly simple. Is it
perfect? I’m not saying that itis. An ideal world, other parts of the city should be numbers in sequential but
that is not necessarily the case and put the onerous in this one particular incident | think would create a
hardship to a lady by no fault of her own, who purchased the property and was given and assumed that was
the proper street number.

Therefore, in speaking to the motion, | think the Infrastructure Committee has done their due diligence, has
vetted. There was a disdaining vote, but this is the majority of the committee and therefore | made the
recommendation not to refer it back to the committee and to put it before Board to vote appropriately on this
matter, which you do have by the RSAs and NROs the complete authority to do so. Thank you.

Alderman Lopez

| also plan to oppose returning it to committee because we had this discussion, for me, twice. We discussed it
in the previous Infrastructure Committee too. A guide is a guide. Somebody in the United States has decided
that the best way to do numbering is to use whole numbers only. | don’t know if they know Nashua Fire
Department, and | don’t Know that we need to conclude that our firefighters can’t notice a letter A when they
are looking for an emergency. | have found them to be professional. | have worked with them probably way
above average in emergency response calls and plenty of 25, 21A, 22A, 22A,C1. They know where things are
in this city. They know their regions and their districts. Ultimately these are two houses on a road. It’s not an
urban metropolis. | don’t think the fire department is going to be completely taxed by this. | do think the
hardship would fall on the developer and the woman living there. They are the most relevant to the problem in
my opinion because it is their road and their buildings. They are the ones that are going to live next to each
other. Well, the developer is going to put somebody in there to live. Ms. Allard that is her home. She has
been writing 27 on all of her mail. She has been receiving all of her mail from her friends at 27. That’s part of
her identity and her experience. I’m still writing 2017 on all my dates. | can’t even imagine what it is going to
be like trying to remember every single time to change your address. | can’t imagine what kind of mayhem will
be involved. It is impression that there will be a cost to her to change her address on legal documents, and
there’s definitely a difficulty in getting her ID changed, credit cards, mailings. All that kind of stuff. It’s an
unnecessary hassle in my mind. | think we can do right by neighbors, in this case, the people how are more
immediately involved. The numbering committee is doing their job too. They are making the perfect
recommendation but if we were going to follow every perfect recommendation we would all be using the matrix
system. | think there’s a little bit of wiggle room.

To speak to the much larger project ahead of us of renumbering the whole city, | would take her advice and
resign because | don’t want to deal with every single person coming in and saying this is my favorite number. |
do think Ms. Allard deserves to have her number, and there isn’t enough of a compelling safety issue or
argument in my mind to hold this any longer or send it back to committee because for us this is just two weeks