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Board of Aldermen Page 16
April 26, 2016

Alderman Cookson

The first thing I’m going to do is not assume that everybody had the opportunity to review the minutes of last
night’s meeting because last night's meeting minutes don’t exist yet. There is an audio of it, but the minutes
don’t exist. The oral report which was given this evening was about bonds with regarding to the Budget
Review Committee meeting from last night and made zero mention about the contract, the CBA with the
Nashua Fire Rescue. Let me go on to at least complement whoever put the agenda together to at least
anticipate a recommendation from the Budget Review Committee and placing this on the agenda. That at
least is more courtesy than we received several years ago when this same contract came before us in a very
similar situation. It was a Monday evening Budget Review Committee meeting and that very next Tuesday
evening, the very next night; it was brought in under suspension of rules. So thank you for the courtesy of
having it on the agenda. The points that were made with regard to our public comment, Commission Garant,
Mr. McAllister, Assistant Chief Rhodes, certainly make it seem like the contract is very appropriate. If the
Board chooses, they may continue to support it this evening. I’m curious why not go through the normal
course of action and have it on our regularly scheduled May meeting, Tuesday, May 10, where everybody
including the public would have ample opportunity to review the minutes and participate. | think we have a
process established that’s in place. This is not the process. You do not anticipate to have a contract, a
Collective Bargaining Agreement, out one evening at committee level and a little more than 24 hours later,
maybe, have a decision that the full Board will take. It would be my recommendation to at least wait until the
10". | don’t think there’s any reason to expedite this. Is there a rush or a hurry or something that requires it to
be addressed this evening?

President McCarthy

When | was asked about it on Friday when we were putting the agenda together, | didn’t know how long it had
been since first reading and whether we had an urgency to it, so | asked to have it put on the agenda. As |
explained at the Budget Committee last night, there is no urgency. The next meeting falls well within the
statutory guidelines. If we want to hold it until the minutes of the Budget Committee are ready, there’s no
reason why that can’t be done.

Alderman Dowd

The oral report that | gave was done at the request of the City Treasurer. It was only for that because of the
urgency of the savings to the city.

President McCarthy

When we discussed it on Friday, there is urgency to the bond resolution which is why the question came up.
They were both put on there. | think as of last night, we did not anticipate that it would necessarily be taken up
tonight.

Alderman Cookson

When you suspended the rules this evening to allow Alderman Dowd to give an oral report of last evening’s
Budget Review Committee, it was Alderman Dowd’s report that only gave reference to the bond issue and
nothing else. Either it was an incomplete report or you would only expect that Alderman Dowd would expect to
discuss the bond issue this evening. If you are going to give an oral report, give an oral report. Alderman
Melizzi-Golja’s opening comments were that | don’t want to discuss everything that was discussed last night.
Well, | think people need to know what was discussed last night if some people hadn’t had that opportunity.
Again, my recommendation, I’m not going to make the motion now because | want to leave it open for
discussion, ultimately | would like to make a motion to have this on our agenda for the 10".

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Alderman Siegel

| agree with my colleague Alderman Cookson’s desire to wait because it would be helpful to allow people to
review the written minutes. | know Assistant Chief Rhodes gave some testimony which | think people would
find valuable. Personally, | could repeat the remarks | made but | don’t think that’s a complete picture of
anything. The process would be better served by allowing the minutes to be made available and just address
this at the next full Board meeting.

Alderman Lopez

At the Budget Review Committee meeting, honestly | want to hear the objections to how the contract has been
developed especially if they had a mediator who was involved. | know all of us understand that we have a very
competitive fire department. It’s a regional leader. | know in my ward we have had a lot of emergency calls,
emergency issues. Nashua Fire has done an exemplary job in responding to effectively and efficiently. | do
share Alderman Cookson’s and Alderman Siegel’s positions because | want to know what the objections are.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

Alderman Cookson, | just assumed that it was on the agenda. People had taken advantage of whatever
information was there and was in a broad stroke referring to the minutes because | knew it was available via
audio, and made the assumption people take advantage of that. | am fine if we want to move this to the next
meeting. | certainly understand people may want to get more information. | have no objection to that.

President McCarthy

Was that a motion to hold until the next meeting?

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

So moved.

MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN MELIZZI-GOLJA TO HOLD R-16-026 UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING
Alderman Clemons

The agenda for this meeting has been out since Friday. This has been on the agenda since Friday. Clearly
we had a number of people come tonight who expected this to be on the agenda. | don’t want it to go
unrecognized that although some people may not have known, a lot of people did. They took time out of their
evening to come here tonight expecting us to move this forward or not move it forward or take some action on
it. So, | won’t be supporting the motion to hold.

President McCarthy

| would point out that | spoke to at least Assistant Chief Rnodes and Mr. McAllister today and pointed out to
them that | expected that it would likely be held until the next meeting.

Alderman Cookson

| would just like to remind those who may have been on the board at that time that there were more people that
came from Nashua Fire and Rescue when it wasn’t on the agenda last time. While | certainly respect those
who came this evening, | think it’s the prudent thing to allow us to review the minutes, raise any additional
questions or comments, if there are any. I’m looking forward to supporting the contract, but | certainly like to
do my due diligence and review the minutes prior to giving my vote.

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A Viva Voce Roll Call was taken, which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Cookson, Alderman Dowd, 12
Alderman Caron, Alderman Siegel, Alderman Schoneman,
Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja, Alderman McGuinness,
Alderman LeBrun, Alderman Moriarty, Alderman Lopez,
Alderman McCarthy

Nay: Alderman Clemons 1

Abstained: Alderman O’Brien 1
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-16-026 held until the next meeting.

MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-16-026 declared duly adopted.

R-16-028
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess

Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire

Alderman-at-Large Mark S. Cookson

Alderman Richard A. Dowd

Alderman June M. Caron

Alderman Ken Siegel

Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja

Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED
THE AMOUNT OF THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS ($30,000,000) TO REFUND ALL OR A PORTION
OF CERTAIN OUTSTANDING BONDS OF THE CITY IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE INTEREST COST
AND OTHER SAVINGS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-16-028 BY ROLL CALL
ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Siegel

Wasn't that R-16-028 as amended? We did amend it in committee. The amendment was to put the fiscal note
in for that Treasurer Fredette had supplied which is where Alderman Schoneman got the $1.5 million dollar.
Did you refer to that?

Alderman Schoneman

| asked the question last night.

Alderman Siegel

He asked the question and that was part of it. | just want to be clear that it's as amended with just that fiscal
note that we asked for.

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President McCarthy

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We should make the amendment first. Why don’t you move to amend it by including the fiscal note.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE TO AMEND R-16-028 BY INCLUDING THE FISCAL NOTE

PROVIDED BY TREASURER FREDETTE

A Viva Voce Roll Call was taken, which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Cookson,
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron, Alderman Siegel,
Alderman Schoneman, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja,

Alderman McGuinness, Alderman LeBrun, Alderman Moriarty,
Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Lopez, Alderman McCarthy

Nay:

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE FOR FINAL PASSAGE AS AMENDED

A Viva Voce Roll Call was taken, which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Cookson,
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron, Alderman Siegel,
Alderman Schoneman, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja,
Alderman McGuinness, Alderman LeBrun, Alderman Moriarty,
Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Lopez, Alderman McCarthy

Nay:

MOTION CARRIED

President McCarthy

R-16-028 is amended. Motion on the floor is for final passage by roll call as amended.

on that motion? If not, would the clerk please call the roll.

A Viva Voce Roll Call was taken, which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Cookson,
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron, Alderman Siegel,
Alderman Schoneman, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja,

Alderman McGuinness, Alderman LeBrun, Alderman Moriarty,
Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Lopez, Alderman McCarthy

Nay:

MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-16-028 declared duly adopted.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES — None

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Is there any discussion

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NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-16-029
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
ESTABLISHING AN EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND FOR RIVERWALK WALKWAYS, BRIDGES
AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS AND APPROPRIATING AT LEAST $500,000 INTO
THE EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President McCarthy

R-16-030
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
CREATING A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND FOR SCHOOL CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATIONS
(CTE) TUITION FEES
Given its first reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN DOWD TO ACCEPT THE FIRST READING OF R-16-030, ASSIGN IT TO THE

BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MONDAY, MAY 23, 2016, AT
7:00 PM IN THE ALDERMANIC CHAMBER

A Viva Voce Roll Call was taken, which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Cookson, 14
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron, Alderman Siegel,
Alderman Schoneman, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja,
Alderman McGuinness, Alderman LeBrun, Alderman Moriarty,
Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Lopez, Alderman McCarthy
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

There being no objection, President McCarthy suspended the rules to allow for the first reading of
a resolution received after the agenda was prepared

City Clerk Piecuch
Both readings, sir?

President McCarthy

If the Board is amenable to that, yes.

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R-16-031

Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess

Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy

AMENDING THE PURPOSE OF A FISCAL YEAR 2016 ESCROW FOR THE PARKS AND
RECREATION DEPARTMENT
Given its first and second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-16-031
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Cookson
| am utterly confused. Don’t we have to do a first reading and then...
President McCarthy
We just did.
Alderman Cookson
We did a first and second reading.

President McCarthy

| think the clerk was assuming that since the next sentence would be identical to the first we could read it once.
If you would like to have it read again, we can do that.

Alderman Cookson

You're the president. | just want to be sure that we are following Robert’s Rules and we are doing it
appropriately and no questions asked.

President McCarthy

We actually follow Mason’s Rules.
Alderman Cookson

Masons. Thank you.

President McCarthy

The rule is as long as everybody understands what we are doing, it’s okay generally. | admit this is somewhat
irregular, but | think that’s the nature of the piece of legislation.

Alderman Siegel

| was just going to echo Alderman Cookson’s concerns. We typically would have voted on a second reading.
It’s not a vanilla procedural motion in my mind. Again, | don’t see any issue per se, but we are supposed to
have some sort of a process.

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President McCarthy

We do, and the process based on the motion that Alderman Wilshire made at the beginning of the meeting was
that we accept that suspension unless there are objections.

Alderman Clemons
Is there an objection?

President McCarthy

| haven’t heard one.

Alderman Moriarty

l’Il second Cookson’s confusion. It’s not on my agenda. Since I’m not there, | didn’t get anything on my desk.
Can you remind me what we’re doing please.

President McCarthy

In the appropriations for the Legacy Playground, there is some money that became useful to purchase
equipment from another source. Therefore, the resolution is redirecting part of the escrowed money to pay for
the labor instead of the parts, as | understand it.

Alderman Moriarty

Now | remember Mayor Donchess talking about this in his comments. Thank you.
Alderman Schoneman

The original purpose and amount was to fund the cost of playground equipment for $40,000. This is to transfer
it to cover construction costs for $28,467. What happens to the balance? Does it stay there?

President McCarthy

| would assume it’s paying for equipment. | believe the general purpose of this is money that we thought was
going to pay for labor is actually intended to pay for equipment. We're swamping money that was intended to
pay for equipment to pay for the labor. The total at the bottom is all the same.

Mayor Donchess

When this was escrowed last year, the stated purpose in the resolution adopted by the Board was to fund the
cost of playground equipment for $40,000. Different funds have come in. If we are going to use this money
now $28,467 of the $40,000 needs to go to construction costs leaving the remainder $12,000 and something
still in the cost for playground equipment with that purpose. There would be $12,000 roughly for the purpose of
equipment and $28,000 for construction costs rather than $40,000 for equipment.

Alderman Schoneman

Was $40,000 the sum total of equipment and whatever other costs the city was going to contribute to this
playground? Is that everything?

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Mayor Donchess

No, it’s the amount of the money that was escrowed from last year. This isn’t the total city contribution. It’s
simply the amount of the escrow from last year.

Alderman Schoneman

The $28,467 construction cost is that being done by the city or is that being done by somebody outside?
Mayor Donchess

| think that’s being done by somebody outside.

Alderman Schoneman

There was some equipment that was going to be purchased, namely that very expensive in ground merry-go-
round. Is that still being purchased with city funds or otherwise?

Mayor Donchess

No, right now that’s not in the plan. There are all different sources of money. There’s money being contributed
by the Legacy Playground group. There is money that had previously been set aside by public works. Money
that has been escrowed. Now money from the CDBG resolution that was just passed. All of that together is
enough to construct the playground as designed with the exception of the carousel and also to improve the
bathrooms to the tune of $20,000. The one thing that is not there is the carousel which is about $60,000.

A Viva Voce Roll Call was taken, which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Cookson, 14
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron, Alderman Siegel,
Alderman Schoneman, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja,
Alderman McGuinness, Alderman LeBrun, Alderman Moriarty,
Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Lopez, Alderman McCarthy
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-16-031 declared duly adopted.

NEW BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O-16-11
Endorsers: Alderman Don LeBrun
Alderman Ken Siegel
Alderman David Schoneman
Alderman Tom Lopez
ADOPTING PROVISIONS FOR REDUCED TAXATION FOR CERTAIN CHARTERED PUBLIC SCHOOL
FACILITIES
Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by President
McCarthy

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PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

Mr. Jim Cutter, 86 Palm Street

| have a couple of things. The first one is dated October 25 of last year. The reason why I’m reading it now is
because | sent this letter to the Telegraph, but the political going’s on’s prevented it from being published. |
asked them after the elections if they would do it, and they said yes but they never got around to it. “Dear
Editor, We especially wish to thank Tracy Pappas and Paula Johnson for all their help and support for getting
our sign returned. Also Alderman Schoneman, Alderman McGuiness, Dan Richardson, Barbara Nelson, Luke
Diminski and the rest of the aldermen or their support. Thank you. Jim and Mary Cutter.” My other is a letter
to President McCarthy and the Board. “The Gilbertson’s violated the building permit plan ordinance in 1971 by
not using an exact dimension. When the building inspector approved it a second time in error since 1950, the
Gilbertson’s thought part of their driveway belonged to them. Since the mistakes were made by an inspector,
we believe the city should be the ones to notify the Gilbertson’s to correct their mistakes so our property can be
returned. Sincerely, Jim.”

REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
Alderman O’Brien

Today | had the pleasure to share the morning with Alderman Siegel up at the Senate hearing which had to do
with the landlord bill, one of the things that is coming out of the Substandard Housing Committee. Like
Alderman Cookson said, it was good to see a member of this Board not state represent but show interest and
come up there and testify. | could tell by the look in Alderman Siegel’s eye how he admired our efficiency, how
efficient our state government is. In other words to be polite, the hearing was long and the hearing was
tedious. | complement Alderman Siegel for hanging in there. He and | did somewhat of a tag team that | think
all of you here would be quite proud of. | think we expressed the points and concerns of Nashua on the issue.
| thank Alderman Siegel for sharing his time and working on it. Also, in the same vain we had our Mayor up
there, moving forward and discussing the commuter rail. Very important. There were several members of the
Mayor’s staff up there as well as well as Tracy Hatch and others. | think it vets well and I’m looking forward to
the meeting with the representatives and the Board. It bods well to show that there is a very strong concern of
what’s going on up at the state. | hope this new collaborative keeps going, and I’m looking forward to working
with it.

Alderman Lebrun

| would like to address a comment that was made earlier in reference to the pensions being the fault of an
ultra-conservative legislature. | would just like to say that the pension problem goes back more than the past
16 months. If there’s a fault to be laid on anyone, you can lay it on, and | don’t want to say ultra-liberal, but on
the liberal legislature as well as the conservative legislature. Thank you.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

| would just like to thank Alderman Siegel and Alderman O’Brien for their efforts today. It’s certainly important
for our citizens here and for people throughout the state, so thank you.

Alderman Siegel

| would like to thank both of my colleagues, Alderman Lebrun and Alderman O’Brien for seeing me through the
process. | know Alderman Cookson said they were in the enviable position. | suppose unless you are a
committed masochist it’s hard to imagine. | suspect that Alderman O’Brien was just teetering on the edge of
having his clothes soiled by my exploding head. It was quite an experience, one hopefully | won’t have to
repeat too often.

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Alderman Lopez

| just wanted to use my public comment time to explain why on my Facebook page for Ward 4 alderman | have
been posting pictures of me doing 22 push-ups. There is a moved that is based on the VA’s report in 2012 that
the equivalent of 22 Veterans a day commits suicide annually. It occurred to me in one of our previous
meetings that while as somebody who works in the social work field | might be aware of movements or
concerns that are going on badly, the general public is not. | should be a better conduit for bringing those
issues to the surface. While anybody who has worked in social work would have told you that then heroin
epidemic was coming a few years ago, there was a blur of communication. | think the general public is only
aware of it within the last year and a half or so. Likewise, suicide is on the rise. It’s a tabooed that nobody
wants to talk about. The statistics are there. Tne CDC released a report just last week stating that suicide on
the national level was increasing. Especially with our veterans that is not something that we should be refusing
to talk about. Our veterans served our country; they put their lives on the line. Without them we really wouldn't
have the freedom that we have today. Doing 22 pushups isn’t necessarily going to save the world, but doing it
and announcing that the statistic exists and generating the conversation is all that I’m hoping to do. I’m hoping
more resourceful people or people with better resources will become aware of this issue so we don’t have
another epidemic moving forward. | just wanted to explain my behavior on social media to people.

President McCarthy

| wanted to thank City Arts Nashua for having organized the third annual Meri Goyette Art Lunch a week and a
half ago. It was another fascinating event.

Committee announcements:

Alderman Cookson

Infrastructure, tomorrow evening at 7:00 p.m. in these Chambers. | believe we are going to have a wonderful
presentation from our Downtown Specialist, Mr. Vayo. We have extended the invitation to our Planning &
Economic Development Committee to join us for that presentation. Post the presentation, we will continue with
our regular order of business on Infrastructure.

Alderman Clemons

The Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee will meet here at 7:00 p.m. on May 2.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

The Planning & Economic Development Committee will hold their next meeting on Tuesday, May 3, at the City
Auditorium at 7:00 p.m. At that time, we will have a presentation on the Performing Arts Feasibility Study.

President McCarthy

As we pointed out before, we will also have on May 5 the meeting with the State Delegation here.