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Board of Aldermen — 9/26/17 Page 11

R-17-129
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Mark S. Cookson
Alderman Don LeBrun
FOR THE CITY TO RESEARCH THE FEASIBILITY OF PURCHASING THE FORMER DANIEL
WEBSTER COLLEGE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 20 UNIVERSITY DRIVE
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN COOKSON TO TABLE R-17-129 PENDING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM

THE NASHUA CITY PLANNING BOARD
MOTION CARRIED

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES
O-17-044
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
REVISIONS TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR COMMUNITY GRANTS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE TO AMEND O-17-044 IN ITS ENTIRETY BY REPLACING IT WITH
THE AMENDED COPY PROVIDED WITH THE AGENDA

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Wilshire

In committee it was brought up by one of the members that the composition of the committee originally had listed
that the low income resident by of the community. One of the members, Alderman LeBrun, suggested that we
have the low income member of the Review & Comment Commission be a resident of the City of Nashua as
defined by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. That’s the amendment to this.

Alderman Clemons

What exactly does that mean?

Alderman Wilshire

The definition by HUD?

Alderman Clemons

Does that mean the income level or that that person has to be living in a HUD development?

Alderman Wilshire

No, the person does not have to be living in a HUD development. That was one of the concerns that was brought
up at the committee. The person just be a low income resident of the City of Nashua.

Alderman Clemons

So this refers to the income level of the individual as defined.

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Alderman Wilshire

And not the neighborhood they live in. Yes.

Alderman Lopez

| was just going to clarify in addition to what Alderman Wilshire. The way it was originally written the person could
either be living in a low income neighborhood, a person who had a low income or even could be working for an
agency that represented low income. Through discussions, we felt it made more sense to actually have a person
of low income represent the people who have low income. Alderman LeBrun wanted to confirm in describing this
person we were making sure we were talking about a Nashua city resident.

Alderman O’Brien

| think | see the intention here, but | am very concerned of the labeling that could go on with this. It’s not just a
citizen we are putting on. We are clearly identifying that this citizen has to be a low income resident. I’m just
concerned that there is no attached stigma to any of that. If that is the objective, fine, but to clearly identify that
person “you are on the board because you are a low income resident” | don’t know.

Alderman Moriarty

I’m going to back up Alderman O’Brien’s statement from a different objective. | have an issue with this similarly.
The original says the three commissioners shall be Nashua residents representing a cross section of the
community. That should be sufficient. Why don’t we add a special commissioner for seniors or why don’t we add
a special commissioner for a minority group or why don’t we add a special commissioner to represent republicans
or a special commissioner to represent democrats? You could itemize an endless list of people that you could
come up with a commissioner to represent. Why are we singling out and identifying a commissioner that shall
only be low income? Why not just let the Board President and the Mayor choose to select that person because
the Mayor sees a low income person as a representative of the cross-section of the community.

Alderman Wilshire

It doesn’t have to be. You could make that amendment if you'd like.

President McCarthy

Is there any time sensitivity to this legislation.

Alderman Wilshire

There is. We were hoping to get the members appointed before the process begin.

President McCarthy

Which is when?

Alderman Wilshire

The composition of this commission is changing from the five commissioners and up to 30 volunteers to a 7-
member commission. Appointing those people and getting this process up and running is sort of time sensitive. It

has to fall in line with the whole budget. It has to be done over a certain number of months. We were hoping to
get it passed at this meeting. We can change that if that’s the Board’s preference.

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Alderman Cookson

And | appreciate Alderman Wilshire going into that brief explanation because my recollection was this was the
Review and Comment Commission that has gone through a name change and now is the Citizens Advisory
Commission for Community Grants. What Alderman Wilshire just said is we lost that community aspect to this per
se because what it used to be was 30 members of the community coming together, reviewing grants, distributing
the workload. Now we are going to ask 7 individuals to move forward, and I’m assuming you would probably have
the same number of applicants or maybe even more depending on how popular this is, but the workload would
now be amongst 7 individuals versus 37 per se.

Alderman Wilshire

| think the 7-member commission is in standing with what we typically do in this city. | think when you had five
commissioners they were broken up into five groups, not all looking at the same applications or not looking at the
applications as a whole. | feel the commissioners that we had were spending probably half their time recruiting
volunteers because it was a process every year to get the number of requisite volunteers on this commission.
They were kind of working in silos. You take these five, I'll take this five, you take that five. Nobody was looking at
the overall picture. | think that is a disservice to the process.

Alderman Deane

Meanwhile back at the amendment, from listening to what my colleagues have to say, if Alderman Moriarty doesn’t
want to make the amendment, | think just under B,1: “Composition. The Citizens Advisory Commission for
Community Grants shall consist of seven members.” The rest of it can be removed

MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE TO FURTHER AMEND BY CHANGING PARAGRAPH B(1) TO READ:
“COMPOSITION. THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR COMMUNITY GRANTS SHALL CONSIST
OF SEVEN MEMBERS.”

Alderman Wilshire
You would look to get rid of the four members appointed by the Mayor, the two members by the Board president?
Alderman Deane

No, that would remain. That shows the composition of seven. Then down in D, that should be removed as well,
Just A, B and C and get rid of D altogether along with the sentence after the comma.

AMENDED MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE TO FURTHER AMEND BY CHANGING PARAGRAPH B(1) TO
READ: “COMPOSITION. THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR COMMUNITY GRANTS SHALL
CONSIST OF SEVEN MEMBERS.” AND DELETING PARAGRAPH B(1)(d) IN ITS ENTIRETY

MOTION CARRIED

Alderman Lopez

| think it is important to have a low income person, as uncomfortable as it may be to label them as such. Low
income people do represent a cross section of Nashua. There are elderly people, there are minorities. | think we
can represent a lot of people. But it is particularly important in my opinion for someone of low income to represent
that interest in what Review and Comment does.

Alderman Deane

| am quite confident that both the Mayor and the Board President can appoint a low income person without stating
it.

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Alderman Lopez

| think it is important for us to acknowledge: A) that there are low income people in Nashua, and B) before deciding
not to use that definition as HUD defines it to understand what it is, because HUD’s low income definition is 40
percent of the median income. If the median income in Nashua is $60,000 a year then we are basically saying
that anybody who is $40,000 or less doesn’t particularly have a special voice. If that’s what low income is, | think it
is important for us to make sure that those people are identified.

President McCarthy

We're getting afield of the amendment. The Board just voted 14-1 to take that language out. That question should
have been decided at the committee.

Alderman Lopez

It was. We did discuss it at the committee.

Alderman Moriarty

I’m particularly interested in this. | like it. It makes me happy to see this move forward because | was on the
Human Affairs Committee five years ago when we worked togheter. | think | might have been instrumental in
writing some of this in the first place. Putting aside the antidotes, the fact that there was some stress associated
with the committee at the time. It’s nice to see that stress seems to have abated and now we’re able to go to
iteration two relatively stress free. | like that.

MOTION CARRIED TO AMEND WITH THE AMENDED BLUE COPY
MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE FOR FINAL PASSAGE AS AMENDED
ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Deane

My comment has to do with the fact, Alderman Lopez, | think it is disingenuous to sit there and say we don’t
recognize and support low income people in this community. This book here is filled with appropriations that
help out many, many low income people in the community. We spend a lot of time, a lot of effort and we
contribute quite a bit of an appropriation to help people between our welfare, between this program here,
between our other appropriations throughout our operating budget. We do quite a bit in this community. I’m a
little taken aback by that. I’ve always supported that. When Review & Comment came down, | never looked at
altering anything because | always respected what they did. They sat up there for months doing all that work.
We gave them a figure to work with, they worked with it. The entities came in and we approved the
appropriations that were sent down. | think we do a substantial amount of work for everybody in this
community.

Alderman Lopez

| just want to point out that as much as we have done, there still are people in Nashua in need. We just made a
decision to remove specific language protecting their right to be heard on this committee without actually finding
out what the definition of low income was. That’s why | made the comment afterwards. | was confirming what it
was. I’m not necessarily disparaging all of the work that other aldermen have done over the years, I’m just
pointing out that there should have been a voice, in my opinion, on this committee specifically for people in need.
People who are making $40,000 or less.

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Alderman Siegel

I’m sensitive too to Alderman Lopez’s concerns, but | don’t think anything in the amended legislation precludes
that. | think the good sense of the Board President the Mayor going forward, they will appoint people to consider
that.

President McCarthy

Alderman Lopez, | would appreciate it if you would find for me the name of someone who fits that category who
you believe would be a proper appointee to the committee.

Alderman Lopez

| would be happy to do so.
Ordinance O-17-044 declared duly adopted as amended.
NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-17-132
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $78,273 FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF HOMELAND SECURITY INTO FIRE GRANT ACTIVITY “FY2016 ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS
GRANT”
Given its first reading; assigned to the HUMAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by President McCarthy

R-17-133
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Ben Clemons
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE
BOSTON SURFACE RAILROAD COMPANY, INC.
Given its first reading; assigned to the PLANNING & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE by President
McCarthy

R-17-134
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF MEDICAL CENTER DRIVE (SHEET
31, LOT 12) TO SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE MEDICAL CENTER FOR $300,000, ESTABLISHING
AN EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND FOR DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES, AND
APPROPRIATING THE $300,000 OF PROCEEDS INTO THE EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND
Given its first reading; assigned to the COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE, the BUDGET REVIEW
COMMITTEE and the NASHUA CITY PLANNING BOARD by President McCarthy

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R-17-135
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
RELATIVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE DOWNTOWN RIVERFRONT MASTER PLAN ADOPTED
BY THE CITY PLANNING BOARD
Given its first reading; assigned to the PLANNING & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE by
President McCarthy

R-17-136
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ENTER INTO A SHORT-TERM REAL PROPERTY LEASE
AGREEMENT FOR 44 BROAD STREET

Given its first reading; assigned to the COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE by President McCarthy

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO ALLOW FOR THE
FIRST READING OF R-17-137
MOTION CARRIED

R-17-137
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Ben Clemons
Alderman-at-Large Mark S. Cookson
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman-at-Large David W. Deane
Alderman Ken Siegel
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman David Schoneman
Alderman Don LeBrun
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $261,767.00 FROM THE STATE OF
NEW HAMPSHIRE DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY INTO POLICE GRANT ACTIVITY “FY2018 OPIOID
ABUSE REDUCTION INITIATIVE (OARI)”
Given its first reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO ALLOW FORA
SECOND READING OF R-17-137

MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-17-137 given its second reading

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-17-137

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Deane

| wanted to thank the officer who came in. Go get em!

MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-17-137 declared duly adopted.

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NEW BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O-17-045
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Ben Clemons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Tom Lopez
MOVING PARKING ENFORCEMENT TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE
MAYOR’S OFFICE
Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by
President McCarthy

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
Jeff Daly, 74 Walden Pond Drive

Coming back to your blue copy, the wording | agree with Alderman Moriarty. You leave a lot of people out. |
think if you add in representing a full and diverse cross-section to cover everything, and then leave it to the
Mayor and the President to set it in place.

Mayor, | had a long conversation with the Surface Railroad people today. | think this city should work with them
very, very closely. We've got the piece of property down on Crown Street that would be ideal as a parking lot
and train station. They’ve got long term plans, and one of them actually is looking at now is going from here out
to Milford to Bennington. There are over 1,000 vehicles a day traveling in and out of Milford, which we would
probably get 25 — 30 percent off the road if the pricing was right. That gets our greenhouse gases here in
Nashua down below the national level. The next thing we’ve got to do is get the people off the highways on the
weekend going north. | hate to say it, our X-Governor Sununu does not want his Peter Pan buses disturbed.
That is something that this city needs to be aware of. It may be coming out of his pocket, but he’s got plenty of
other bus routes that he could provide service to.

The other thing is Burke Street. What’s happening with the Department of Public Works not moving there?
Now I’m hearing all sorts of numbers of renovation in the millions, tens of millions of dollars. Please do not use
our favorite engineering and construction people. This city has lost a lot of money to these people, and they’ve
got rich. There is no accountability. I’ve just finished a job down in New Jersey, and the State Attorney's
General’s Office is looking into overpricing and corruption. Myself and three other people reported it. We've
got to look after what we’re doing here. That building, and | know it because it’s the old Benoit Facility. It’s got
floors that are eight feet thick, ten feet wide, 52 feet long where they had the big turning mills. They want to
take jack hammers and cut that out so they can put in a drain. That’s going to cost a fortune. There is new
technology the engineering department in this city has to be looking at. One of them, | have already told
numerous times, is using dry ice to remove graffiti from all the various walls that have been marked up by the
kids. It can be done in about five seconds and the DPW can do it themselves. You don’t have to get a
contractor in to do it. You don’t have to have a HazMat company come in and clean all the grit off the floor.
We've got to start looking at modern technology, ladies and gentlemen.

There is technology coming over from Europe, and | hate to say it, nobody in the DPW wants to look at it.
We've done it that way for years. You’ve got a major problem down at the Four Hills Landfill. You’ve got two
wells measuring PFOA and PFOS and they are going into the main wastewater plant of the city. Why isn’t that
being cleaned up? Why isn’t it being filtered? Oh, we don’t have the technology. Yes, we do. Nobody asks.
Nobody goes out and looks.

The city owns Pennichuck Water. Go out on Route 101, up beyond PC Connection, there a turning that goes
across the railroad crossing. There are three barrels down there when they first started testing that registered
7-10 parts per trillion. One of those wells is now up to 54 parts per trillion, ladies and gentlemen, and it’s within
9 feet of the Pennichuck brook. The Pennichuck Water Works do not check the water quality for PFOA and

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PFOS. It’s about time we did because we are going to be poisoning 188,000 people with the Pennichuck
Water Company will be eventually supplying water to in Amherst, Bedford, Merrimack, Litchfield and part of
Manchester. Does the city want the liability of having a filtration system that doesn’t work in a facility that we
purchased and will be paying off for years? It is a very serious situation. Myself and one other person is
working right now with the United States Air Force down at Pease Air Force Base. They have heard about this
for seven years. We've got to do a study. We did a test from (Inaudible) down on Hoosick Falls on a particular
filtration system. We went from 17,000 parts per trillion in Hoosick Falls down to 0.068 parts per trillion. Those
results were obtained out of Sandia Labs where we sent the samples. That’s the only place in the Unites
States that can go below one part per trillion. The contamination that we got out on Route 101 needs to be
addressed and this Chamber needs to look at it.

We also need to look at the Merrimack River because we are taking water in from there below the Saint
Gobain facility. Those measurements up there in the Merrimack area are about 11-12 parts per trillion. They
originals were 5-7 parts per trillion. And, it is bio cumulative from the lifetime exposure is 70 parts per trillion.
Do the math. If you’ve got 5 parts per trillion in your drinking water, you will probably get about 1/3 of the parts
of that excreted. Then you have another glass. You still have a little bit left in you so it becomes bio
cumulative and it adds up. In Hoosick Falls, it’s going to take 15 years for those residents to meet the 70 parts
per trillion. Merrimack has just had the death of one person who had thyroid cancer attributed to the exposure
of PFOA and PFOS. | want you all to take this very, very seriously. A woman who gets pregnant has never
been exposed to it and is now drinking, her child gets exposed to it. Immediately when that child is born, they
are going to suffer. Please think about it and the wording that | said in the amendment that you just passed, |
would add “fully and diverse.” A full and diverse cross-section of the community. There’s no stigma added
anywhere with those words. It doesn’t matter if you are disabled, you’ve got one leg or as Alderman Moriarty
pointed out, several other words he used. Thank you very much.

REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN

Alderman Lopez

| just want to remind anybody who is watching that the Veterans Stand Down is this Thursday from 9:00 a.m. to
2:00 p.m. at 45 High Street.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

| would just remind everyone that this Sunday, October 1*', is Memorial Sunday for the firefighters. It is at
10:00 a.m. | believe everyone received an invitation. If you haven’t responded, and you are planning on
attending, if you could respond. Thank you.

Alderman Schoneman

| just wanted to say thanks to the folks at the airport who hosted Wheels and Wings. They had more attendees
than they have ever had in the past, about 4300. It was a great success. The last time we were hear we
announced that we were going to be having it, and now these are the results. I’m looking forward to doing it
again next year. Thanks.

Alderman LeBrun

On October 14, there’s a legislative softball game at Anheuser-Busch to benefit the Liberty House in
Manchester.

Alderman Cookson
| just wanted to take the opportunity to thank many members of the Board of Education and members of the

Board of Aldermen for coming out to the Daniel Webster College to take a tour of the facility and take a look at
the opportunity that may have been. | appreciate you taking the time out of your day to come visit and take a

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tour of the said campus. Also, my condolences to the Price family. Dorothea Price passed away. They had
viewing hours this evening, and the funeral mass will be held tomorrow up in Manchester followed by a funeral
down here in Nashua.

Alderman Deane

| just wanted to inform the Board that | am resigning from the Board of Aldermen effective the 29 of September.
| am embarking on a wonderful new chapter in my life, and | will no longer be living in Nashua. | live here now,
however. For those who have been spent the time stalking me, | live in Nashua.

| have appreciated working with all of you and all of my previous Hogwarts, | mean colleagues, from back from
2002 until today. | spent four years on the Board of Public Works. | enjoyed that immensely. | still enjoy
public works. | think it’s what makes our city tick. It has been a pleasure and honor to serve the taxpayers of
Nashua. As | leave the city my hope is that | have made a small impact on the lives of residents. | have seen
many changes in Nashua over the years and enjoyed the 40 plus years | have lived here. | wish the citizens
the very best and the city a prosperous future. | wish the Mayor well.

| really have to comment on the fact, | have seen politics in this city deteriorate to a level that makes you
wonder why people want to do this. It really does. It is kind of sad in a way. We can all have our difference,
but when it becomes personal that’s like over the top. Bult, I’ve enjoyed it.

l’ve enjoyed working with everyone. We've done a lot of different things. | have served with, | think me and
Brian are the last two longest serving aldermen here, so you are still on top of the heap, Brian. | just want to
thank everyone. Thank you, Mr. President.

Alderman Wilshire

Wow, Alderman Deane. | can say you’re tenure on this Board has not been a small impact at all. It has made
a significant impact, so thank you for that. Whatever your new adventures are, | wish you very well.

| also want to give a shout out to the Nashua Police Department for their Cops for Kids donation to a young
man here in Nashua that had cancer. They presented him and his family with a $5,000 check the other day,
which | think is pretty awesome. Thanks to the Nashua Police Department and their Cops for Kids with Cancer
efforts.

Alderman Clemons

Alderman Deane, | just wanted to say | wish you well in your future endeavors. Even though you and | have
had our differences, we also have had our agreements. It’s been a pleasure to serve with you these past
years. l’ve learned a lot from you. | was hoping we could ride this out together until January, but you will be
missed. The city will miss you. Thank you for all your contributions that you have given this city because they
mean a lot.

Alderman Siegel

| think | speak for everyone else too that | would like to thank my colleague, Alderman Deane. It’s been a real
educational experience and a pleasure working with you and an honor. | think the city is much better for your
presence here on the Board. Your presence will be sorely missed. | wish you good luck. | know going
forward, you will have nothing but good things.

Alderman Caron

So Alderman Deane, aren’t you glad | got you to join the Board of Public Works?

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Alderman Deane

Yes.

Alderman Caron

You have done wonderful things for this city. | Know that all the things you’ve done for the youth over the last
30 years has been well appreciated. | know | have because you have worked side-by-side with me on a lot of
projects. | am surprised by this, but | wish you all the best, always. Thank you.

Alderman Schoneman

Alderman Deane, thank you very much for everything over the years. This has been quite a four years for me,
and a lot of that has been watching you. | learn. | try to learn. | try to be better, and | have learned a

tremendous amount, and | want to thank you very much for the inspiration that you were to get me to run in the
first place and for the things you have shown along the way. Thank you very, very much.

Alderman Moriarty

I’d like to wish you the very best. We had a good alliance and good days together, and | appreciate that time.
Mostly on behalf of my son, | want to thank you for inspiring the David Deane skate park.

President McCarthy

Alderman Deane, | met you when my son was nine. In a month or so, he will be 34. You were giving to the
community then long before you got involved in politics, and you have been ever since. Your impact has been
anything but small. | want to wish you the best in your future endeavors and thank you for your service.

Committee announcements:

Alderman Dowd

This Thursday, we will have a very short meeting of the Construction & Joint Special at its normal location,
Nashua High North. We have one bill left to approve which we have to approve by committee. There may be
a discussion, if the Board of Ed so wishes, to expand upon what their current thinking is on Elm Street and
Mount Pleasant. | haven’t gotten a commitment that they would so it could be a very, very short meeting but it
is one that we have to have.

Alderman Cookson

We have Infrastructure tomorrow evening in these Chambers beginning at 7:00 p.m. That will be Wednesday,
September 27".

Alderman Clemons

| have a question through you to Alderman Wilshire and to the Mayor and actually to yourself. | Know the
ordinance that we passed this evening was time sensitive. The Personnel meeting is scheduled to meet
October 2, next week. Reading the ordinance here, this committee should be formed before November 1°. Is
that enough time to get these appointments to the Committee or should we consider moving that meeting to a
later date?

Alderman Wilshire

That’s a good question.