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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 3/22/2022 - P9

By dnadmin on Mon, 11/07/2022 - 07:47
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allows them to move in there. The city will get rent from them as well as tax money. So it's basically a win, win for the
city, for the taxpayers, and for Liquid Therapy.

President Wilshire

Okay, the clerk's tell me we need to have a second reading.

R-22-017
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE 14 COURT STREET LEASE
FOR UNIT B WITH LIQUID THERAPY, LLC
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-22-017
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-22-017 declared duly adopted.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O0-22-005
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, ur.
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
UPDATING THE FINANCIAL STANDARDS FOR THE CITY’S WELFARE GUIDELINES
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN THIBEAULT FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF 0-22-005

ON THE QUESTION

President Wilshire

| just want to say | see Mr. Mack in the back of the room. He does a wonderful job for us over at the Welfare Department
and as you all know, the rents and the housing in this city is just not existent. So | know the rents are really high and that
they do have to come into us every now and then and upgrade the payment standards for that reason. Thank you Mr.
Mack.

MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-22-005 declared duly adopted.

O-22-007
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman Alex Comeau

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 3/22/2022 - P10

By dnadmin on Mon, 11/07/2022 - 07:47
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Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman John Cathey
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
EXTENDING THE HOURS OF ON-PREMISES SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO 2 A.M. FOR
CHARITABLE GAMING FACILITIES
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-22-007

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Gouveia

Thank you, Madam President. After consulting with Corporation Counsel, | will have to abstain my vote on this Ordinance
due to my employment being with a company that owns and operates two of the charitable gaming facilities inside of the
city. I’m also under the advisement not to partake in the consideration or discussion of this measure. So | please do
request a roll call vote when the time comes.

President Wilshire

Thank you Alderman Gouveia.

Alderman Thibeault

Thank you, Madam President. I'm definitely for this but | was curious. The woman that had brought up the not letting
anybody in after a certain time with this. I'd be curious what the man that spoke from Boston Billiards thought about that if
that's something we can ask them? | was just curious what their stance is on letting other people in?

President Wilshire

Alderman Clemons has his hand raised. He may have an answer for you.

Alderman Thibeault

Okay. Yeah, that works too.

President Wilshire

Do you have an answer for him Alderman Clemons?

Alderman Clemons

| don't have a particular answer to that specifically. | have a comment about it, though.

President Wilshire

All right. Did you want to ask?

Alderman Thibeault

Yeah I’m just curious of their viewpoint of it.

President Wilshire

We have two people here tonight that on establishments in this city - Mr. Rafferty and Mr. Mathais.

Alderman Thibeault

Yeah, | would like to hear from both of them. That would be great. Thank you.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 3/22/2022 - P11

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Kurt Mathias

Once again, Kurt Mathias — Boston Billiards Club. We have adequate security staff and we also employ - not employ - but
have Nashua Police details on to cover us until closing time. So we believe we have the security and if we didn't, we
obviously | sometimes agree with President Wilshere that nothing good happens after 1 am but, you know, we believe
with our security staff we can handle it. If we didn't, we would voluntarily go back to one on the morning immediately. We
don't want trouble any more than the city wants trouble. We don't want police officers hurt, our people hurt. We would we
would go back. In talking with the new Police Commissioner, he's on board with it as long as there are no issues either. |
don't know if that answers your question?

Alderman Thibeault

Yeah, absolutely.
Kurt Mathias
Okay. All right. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you. Mr. Rafferty did you want to weigh in?

Jim Rafferty

Jim Rafferty - owner and operator of the River Casino downtown and the Lucky Moose up on Exit 6. We believe that this
is just a natural outgrowth of the parties that we have. We throw it out at night downtown and we are totally as Mr.
Mathias said, confident that we can control the facility. This would be win, win, win, win for the customers, win for the
charities, win for the operators, win for downtown enjoyment.

Alderman Thibeault

Thank you. Just a follow up comment please. Thank you. Thank you. Both those comments are exactly what | wanted
to hear and | wanted people to hear in this meeting. So that's perfect. Thank you so much.

Alderman Clemons

Thank you. To follow up on that. That is precisely the reason | brought this forward the way that | did. So in the past, this
has come before this Board in different iterations twice before to basically extended it to the entire city anybody that had a
liquor license. The concerns that were raised, you know, | took to heart and so | thought about what facilities in Nashua
want this the most, would benefit from it the most, but could also handle it? All of the casinos have built in security. It's
part of their apparatus. | think they answered it perfectly. They're going to be able to patrol this very well. They already
have the apparatus to do so.

Furthermore, | think this from a business perspective, this will set Nashua apart for those gaming facilities. So folks that
may decide between Manchester and Nashua or Nashua and maybe going to a casino in Boston might choose to stay
here instead. So | think we're putting our casinos at a competitive advantage and | think that they have the staff to handle
this change.

Alderman Cathey

Thank you Madam Chair. Being a person who does not like a lot of regulation, and | appreciate the two gentleman's
answers, but could we or should we even codify that very, very specific rule into the law when there could be extenuating
circumstances? I'm not familiar with the industry so | could be way off but | feel like it's worth having the discussion being
that it is an additional regulation on top of them - asking them to only let people that are already in the building.

Alderman Clemons

Yeah, | wouldn't put that in the ordinance. | think in the motion that | have is to just leave it as is. The reason | wouldn't
put that in the ordinances because | think that the businesses can handle that. | think they're responsible and as they said
if it becomes a problem for them, they'll voluntarily go back to 1 am. So! have no issue with - | don't think we need to add
stipulations.

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Alderman Comeau

Thank you, Madam President. If | could just add on to what Alderman Clemons was just saying. As someone who
spends a good deal of time losing money in these casinos seen firsthand, very well run security staffs that all three
establishments have and | have no doubts that there'll be able to handle whatever increase may come which is debatable
that there might even be an increase. It's already against the law to serve intoxicated people and the bartenders are
pretty good at identifying them. | don't really feel like it's going to be that big of aconcern. So | support the legislation as
it’s written.

Alderman Thibeault

Justa comment. And just to clarify, I'm for this. | just wanted to make sure that we had one person on Zoom and one
person in the room that asked that question, so | just wanted to make sure that we | guess clarified it for the public that we
do feel comfortable that these establishments can handle that. | believe they can. Mr. Rafferty had spoken last time
about it as well. | believe the police are all on board with it too so I’m 100% for it. Thank you

President Wilshire

Further discussion?
Alderman Dowd

Yeah | too am very comfortable with their security and | know they can handle it. So no issues with the legislation as it's
currently written.

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Sullivan, Alderman Moran, Alderman Lopez,
Alderman Jette, Alderman Clemons, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Comeau,
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Cathey, Alderman Thibeault,

Alderwoman Timmons, Alderman Wilshire 13
Abstained: Alderman Gouveia 1
Nay: 0

MOTION CARRIED
Ordinance O-22-007 declared duly adopted.

O-22-009
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, ur.
Alderman Alex Comeau
Alderman John Cathey
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
RAISING THE LANDFILL DISPOSAL FEE FOR CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS FROM $90 PER
TON TO $300 PER TON
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN KELLY FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-22-009

ON THE QUESTION

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you. Just a quick update from the Committee. | know if you're looking at this and you have no background, you're

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like, wow, we're changing this quite a bit. But this is really a deterrent. We have a lot of people bringing in debris that are
not from Nashua and filling our landfill. So this is really to help us preserve our landfill. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Any further discussion?

Alderman Lopez

I'd just like to add that | agree with Alderman Kelly's assessment. It was presented to us and at first | was like, why are we
raising the fee? How much money are we possibly going to make on this on the landfill? Except that it is not about
making more money. We're losing money because a number of contractors that do business in multiple cities are using
our landfill because it’s essentially a loophole and they can dump construction waste and that the city then either has to
remove or occupy space in our landfill and we have a limited amount of landfill. | think it’s bad enough that we have to
have a landfill like Nashua property has to be used for that purpose but the least we can do is maintain it responsibly,
make sure that there's at least ecological harm, and that the space inside of it is reserved as an amenity for people in
Nashua. | hope that this will be a good step towards ensuring that.

Alderman Sullivan

Yes | was gonna say we took a trip to the landfill before we were sworn in and we talked about this specific issue. Landfill
staff was literally walking out into the landfill to rip open bags to check the billing address of the people that just dumped.
Then they made another comment about if they dumped shingles, they would ask them the question about where they
were ripping the shingles off. And again, landfill personnel would drive to the home to verify that. My numbers might be
off here, there are four phases of the landfill and where two and a half in. This is one of the State's last municipal landfills.
So | think this is a really good idea to try to - as opposed to make money, save space

Alderman Cathey

Thank you, Madam Chair. | just wanted to echo Alderwoman Kelly's comments and Alderman Sullivan’s comments. We
did go to the landfill and this is a win for the city. It makes our landfill employees much more efficient, effective, and they
can concentrate on the work that they're doing while keeping our landfill around for a really long time. So I'm glad that this
happened.

Alderman Gouveia

Thank you, Madam President. | am for this ordinance as well solely because it's preserving the landfill, which is really one
of the very large asset for our city. Anyway we can make that stay around longer and benefit the residents of Nashua, I'm
all for it.

Alderman Thibeault

Yeah, | just wanted to echo some of that. And also, you know, | mentioned that when we had the committee meeting that,
you know, | saw somewhere that this was the Mayor's way of making a ton of money. We've all said it today that it's a
deterrent. It's to stop people from dumping the stuff. Alderman Gouveia brought up a great point and in the committee
saying, well why don't we just stop doing it? Me and him talked about it afterwards. It's not the Aldermen’s purview, right?
That would be DPW but we can start by raising the money to try to get the deterrent and if they decide that they want to
go that route in the future, we can go that route. So it's not about making money. It's about - because I'd support - same
thing with Alderman — | don’t want to put words in your mouth, but we would support, you know, if the DPW decided to just
get rid of it altogether. So | just want to make sure that it's clear that it's a deterrent. The Mayor is not lining his pockets
on this one or anything else.

Alderman Sullivan

And to make it clear, so this is a question, this is not raising the residential dump pass, correct?

President Wilshire

Correct.

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Alderman Sullivan

That's still going to remain at $5?

President Wilshire

Correct.

Alderman Sullivan

Best bargain in town.

Alderwoman Kelly

| did clarify whether the residential demolition debris would be the same cost and it would but the conversation around — |
think you were there but | just wanted to put it on record that, you Know, someone who is a resident is only bringing so
much in and it's not going to be a significant change for them but it would be the same.

MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-22-009 declared duly adopted.

NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-22-018
Endorsers: Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
AUTHORIZING PENNICHUCK CORPORATION AND PENNICHUCK EAST UTILITY, INC. TO BORROW FUNDS
AND ACCEPT A GRANT FROM THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE DRINKING WATER AND GROUNDWATER
TRUST FUND
Given its first reading; Assigned to the PENNICHUCK SPECIAL WATER COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-22-019
Endorsers: Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
AUTHORIZING PENNICHUCK CORPORATION AND PENNICHUCK EAST UTILITY, INC. TO ENTER INTO A TERM
LOAN WITH COBANK, ACB
Given its first reading; Assigned to the PENNICHUCK SPECIAL WATER COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-22-020
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess

Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Ernest A. Jette
Alderman John Sullivan
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman Thomas Lopez

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Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderwoman-at-Large Gloria Timmons
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT
OF THIRTY-SEVEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ($37,500,000) TO FUND THE SECOND
FIVE YEAR PHASE OF A TEN YEAR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROJECT
Given its first reading; Assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE, BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS, and schedule a
SPECIAL BOARD OF ALDERMAN PUBLIC HEARING on Monday, April 25, 2022 at 7:00 p.m. in the Aldermanic
Chamber by President Wilshire

R-22-021
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Melbourne Moran, Jr.
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Alex Comeau
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Derek Thibeault
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
CHANGING THE PURPOSE OF UP TO ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY-TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTY DOLLARS
($152,030) OF UNEXPENDED BOND PROCEEDS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PUMPER TRUCK AND
AERIAL LADDER TRUCK PURCHASES TO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE MUNICIPAL FIRE
ALARM SYSTEM
Given its first reading; Assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE, BOARD OF FIRE COMMISSIONERS, and
schedule a SPECIAL BOARD OF ALDERMAN PUBLIC HEARING on Monday,
April 25, 2022 at 7:00 p.m. in the Aldermanic Chamber by President Wilshire

NEW BUSINESS — ORDINANCES - None

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIG COMMENT

Laurie Ortolano

Laurie Ortolano, 41 Berkeley Street. And what's really interesting is the name is now Laurie Ortolano and | did not do that.
So | guess your request was magically filled out. So | want to talk about our e-mail storage and retention policy. | want to
talk about anything the Aldermen can do to assist me in this policy we have going on in the city regarding e-mails. There's
been a number of lawsuits filed over e-mail records and for the most part, citizens have done well winning those lawsuits on
records. One thing that has occurred over the last year is that each time records were being requested for e-mails, the city
was providing us with a written policy - a 45 day e-mail storage and retention policy that was updated by the Mayor on the
May 3% of 2021. But it turns out that policy was not what was being used by the city. The city had changed their storage
retention policy to 90 days in March of 2020 and then in the summer of 2020 changed it to 120 days - four months but never
disclosed to the public that that change was made. And while | was submitting Right to Knows to understand what the
retention policy was, because | felt it wasn't being handled right, the city just kept unloading a 45 day policy on me.

After going through a series of trials in court and through questioning Nick Miseirvitch, | learned that that was not the policy.
That was not what was being used. He testified that Ms. Kleiner had authorized a change to 120 days and so when Laura
Colquhoun asked for e-mails between Rick Vincent and Miss Kleiner in 2021 - January and February - the city initially would
not provide any records and then came back and said, we can't guarantee we can give you two months of records because
we had a 45 day retention policy. The fact it was 120 days and there was no issue on providing the records.

The same thing happened to me with these assess help e-mails that | am in court on back in court on Thursday. Turns out
on those e-mails, it was a 60 day policy unwritten. So | can't file a Right-to-Know to get what the policy is because it's not in
writing. The city refused to tell me what it was because it wasn't in writing and they would only give me a defunct nonworking
45 day policy that wasn't used and then stood behind it to deny me records. Now | know I'm going to win this lawsuit, but |
am so frustrated by...

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

30 seconds

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Laurie Ortolano

...the lying done by this city and in particularly what Miss Kleiner is doing. It is beyond distressing what | have gone through.
We should not be representing people in the city with our Legal counsel who are lying to the citizens and lying to the courts.
It's coming out. I'm confident | can get it out. I'm gonna have to file a few more lawsuits but | am so tired of this and | am
adamant that we should not keep people like this in City Hall.

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

Your time is up.
Laurie Ortolano
Thank you.

President Wilshire

Anyone else on Zoom? Need to put your hand up if you want to be recognized?
Beth Scaer

Yeah, hi. Beth Scaer, 111 East Hobart Street. I'm following up Alderman Moran made some comments at an aldermanic
committee meeting where he celebrated the defeat of House Bill 1077 which would have repealed the conversion therapy
ban. | just wanted to let him know and let everyone in the city know the therapy ban funnels kids who are gender confused
into affirmation only therapy that gives them no options for treatments except hormone blockers, cross sex hormones, and
having healthy body parts removed to make their bodies into a facsimile of the opposite sex. I'm grateful that the Nashua
Library has purchased the book “Irreversible Damage the Transgender Craze Seducing our Daughters”, which you can see
behind me. And | recommend this book to any parents or young people who are dealing with gender confusion or tempted
to go down this path because it leads to permanent physical changes and serious harm to their health. My hope is that
Alderman Moran and our other elected officials would read this book also and educate themselves about what's really going
on and not just celebrate sending these kids down this one way path to physical damage, to irreversible damage. Our young
people deserve better. Thank you.

Steven Scaer

Steven Scaer, 111 East Hobart Street. | also was concerned about Mel Moran celebration of the conversion, the therapy
ban not being repealed. When you think about conversion therapy, you think about electric shocks, or people being
snapped, or people being forced to do something. But this repeals talk therapy and not only for what they say a gay
conversion, but also for people that are struggling with gender identity being able to explore that. The consensus at the
hearing for this bill was that it only allows for affirmative therapy. If a therapist works with a young person to explore the
questions to make sure that there wasn't another problem at the root of the gender confusion, that therapist risks breaking
the law and losing a license. What's happening all over is that thousands of young people, especially gender confused girls,
they're way too young to give informed consent. They're getting pushed down a path of hormone blockers, wrong sex
hormones, and surgery. I’d encourage people to go to the dtransitioners subreddit page. | Know people say well its
“subreddit”. I'm not going to get my information from that. That's the only place where it's safe for the dtransitioners to talk.
They've been driven off of all sorts of forums and they can talk about what it's like trying to live with lifetimes of regret and
irreversibly mutilated bodies. So the conversion ban repeal defeat isn't something to be particularly proud of. Thank you.

REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN

Alderman Moran

Yes, thank you Madam President. | would just like to reaffirm that | am very proud that House Bill 1077 was defeated as a
continuous attack on LGBTQ plus children to try to change them to be straight. | think it's very inappropriate for the House
to continue to push that Bill. Affirmation therapy is not - | guess I’m confused on that because | think if anyone came to
my office for mental health treatment and they were confused, we’d talked through that confusion and not convince them
one way or another. Affirmation therapy is saying yes, yes, yes, you're right. You're right. That is not what happens in
general talk therapy, in psychotherapy but | am certainly opposed to anyone who would want to see a gay person or a
bisexual person say no, that's wrong. You're 14 years old. You don't know what that is. It's almost the equivalent of
having a straight person come in and saying no, that's completely inappropriate you should be gay. People can have free
thought and | think we shouldn't support that.

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Other than that, | would just like to remind everyone that the 27th Run and Walk for the Nashua Soup Kitchen and Shelter
will be held on for food and shelter we held on April 3'¢. | will be participating but | will be walking with a team. | won't be
running and | hope many others can join us. Thank you.

Alderman Lopez

| will also be participating in the walk/run. | will attempt to be running but | believe former Alderman Moriarty is
going to beat all of us. So don't hold your hopes up.

| just wanted to comment - first, I'd like to apologize to the Board for being tardy. | had a resident who was playing 52
pickup with her groceries and | didn't notice that when | was trying to help | was kneeling in the tomato sauce. So | had to
go do a little bit of rapid conversion, | guess. So | thought about logging in on the Zoom and then | remembered President
Wilshire did not like that and everyone in this chamber would have had to do a roll call vote for everything. So it took mea
little extra time, but I'm glad to be here with you guys.

And then finally, | was approached by a member of the press over the weekend and was looking to make some - and |
believe he was looking because he essentially opened with questions leading me towards a certain opinion. He was
looking to have my support to criticize one of our elected officials — our State Representative for Ward 4. | found that
distasteful. | think members of the press should be asking questions to learn people's input, understand people's
opinions, and they should do that for fact finding purposes. | don't think that a long and leading attempt to attack
somebody's character isn't necessarily appropriate. So | was not interested in engaging in that and | would like to
reinforce that | am appreciative of all of our workforce State Representatives. They’re only paid $100 a year to represent
our ward. It's a very difficult time in the State House. There are a lot of very important issues being tackled and they have
to tackle it in a lot of different ways. The individual in question has a number of health issues. So it is having just come
through a pandemic, it was extremely dangerous for him to go to a room with 400 other people where alternative
accommodations were not allowed by the Speaker and we're intentionally not allowed. So | understand that individuals
difficulties as a person who’s differently abled himself. | understand what it is to overcome barriers to try to do your job in
different ways and | appreciate all of our Representatives. Thank you.

Alderman Jette

Thank you, Madam President. | wanted to also congratulate the Gleason family on the opening of the Rambling House
and the Tale Spinner Brewery. The Gleasons are a fine Ward 5 family. My wife and | sampled their products this past
week and the food was excellent as was the beverage and | congratulate them.

On another note, April 15'" is coming. | don’t know if it’s the 15th or the 16th this year. It's not only the time to file your tax
returns, but for anyone who thinks that they might be eligible for the exemptions that the city provides for property tax
either the elderly exemption, the veterans exemption, or the disabled exemption. Those applications are due by April 15".
So if you think you might be eligible, check with the city website. There's an excellent explanation there and the
Assessor's office is very helpful in guiding people through it as to what information they need to show whether or not they
qualify. But don't let that April 15 date go by because if you don't file the application by then, you're out of luck at least
until next year. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you,

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you. | have two pieces of information | wanted to share with everyone. The Energy Environment Committee is
putting together a sustainable Town Hall in Earth Day would be when we normally hold it, but this year we're going to be
doing it on April 12* at the Nashua Public Library at 5:30. It's right before the Aldermanic meeting. So if you can come
and join in, it's going to be an update from our Energy Manager Doria Brown and also we're going to do a community
brainstorm around some more ways that we can continue to push our sustainability here in the city.

Also happy to report that Nashua Pride Committee met — was it last week? The days all blur and we are going to be
doing the Pride Parade in person again this year barring any additional changes that come at us and that will be the last
Saturday in June as it always has historically been the last few years that we've had it. So that's June 29" and the title is
TBD right now but I'll give you guys more updates as we do it.

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Alderman Comeau

Thank you, Madam President. | wanted to share a brief piece of good news. Several months ago in my Ward we lost the
institution of Kinsley House of Pizza. In speaking with a couple of the owners, they are hoping to reopen at some point
this summer. So hopefully that is on track and | wish them the best of luck getting the building back up to code so they
can open up at some point during the summer. It would be great to see them back.

Alderman Dowd

Yes continuing with some good news. We have started to commence the work on the new middle school down in south
end. It actually came about quicker than we thought. We're having to do a little change in the approach. We're going to
be accessing the property from the emergency access road at the corner of Cherrywood and Medallion instead of from
Buckmeadow because this Friday we hope to get the Dredge and Fill Permit so we can start working on the main access
road off of Buckmeadow. Until that's completed, we'll be entering the property through the emergency access road.
Currently, we have an even more temporary road off that same intersection to allow the trucks to bring the heavy
equipment onto the property so they can start clearing trees, working their way over, and digging the foundation. So itis a
construction site and it will be closed until the school opens. So we prefer not to have anyone trying to see what's being
done because the equipment up there is pretty intense. Work will be from seven in the morning till five at night.

Also, this summer the Pennichuck School site will again be closed because of the extensive work that's going to be done.
Access to the fields, and in the back, and the track, and all of that will be accessed through over the Henry Bourque like it
was last summer. So those are all for safety reasons and we're moving very quickly on the middle school project. We are
trying to move ahead so that we can keep the schedule and not incur any additional costs with what's going on in the
world. So thanks.

Alderman Cathey

Thank you, Madam Chair. Some of my thoughts might have been better suited for general discussion because they're
more like questions. Alderman Klee mentioned the spending cap and | know that has something to do with accepting
grants and sometimes we have resolutions that have grants in them. So | didn't know if we would soon be learning
information more about the spending cap and how it affects Nashua, and how it affects these resolutions, and ordinances.
| know there was discussion about that but I'd rather have that sooner rather than later because when I'm looking over
ordinances and resolutions that involve grants, it's sort of confusing to say, yeah | want to support this but would it really
matter if the spending cap is going to cause problems? Wouldn't that be the problem we would have to address first
before we move forward?

Another question - is there any way that we could have a home screen? It is super distracting to look at members of the
public on a giant screen when they're done talking. No offense to them but it’s just - after they're done, | feel like they’re
still talking so.

| did want to mention something on the back of the Kinsley. The owner of Chicken and Chips apparently owns Uncle
Joey's Pizza, Merrimack. | talked to them and they are looking to reopen and rebuild Chicken and Chips. | don't know
when that would be but | was really pleased to hear that they aren't going anywhere because | really liked that
establishment.

The final thing I'll say is one of the members of the public mentioned about the bonding schedule. | believe we talked
about that last night where CFO Griffin is going to give us a presentation about the bonding schedules and how they work
into the future. So that information will be coming to us momentarily. So | just wanted to make that clear. Thank you.

Alderman Thibeault

Thank you, Madam President. I'm sorry. | always have a lot to say. First thing, | just want to wish Alderman Klee the
best and hopefully she feels better soon and can rejoin us as soon as possible.

| also want to champion Alderman Moran. You know, the term conversion, the word “convert” is in the word and | think it
was you and everyone else up there that voted the same way. Thank you for that. | appreciate that.

| want to thank the Mayor for bringing up all the companies coming to Nashua. I'm always looking at empty spaces going
what's going in there. | hate that. | want more revenue into the city and that's great that we have those three companies.

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