Board of Aldermen 03-22-2022 Page 16
Laurie Ortolano
...the lying done by this city and in particularly what Miss Kleiner is doing. It is beyond distressing what | have gone through.
We should not be representing people in the city with our Legal counsel who are lying to the citizens and lying to the courts.
It's coming out. I'm confident | can get it out. I'm gonna have to file a few more lawsuits but | am so tired of this and | am
adamant that we should not keep people like this in City Hall.
Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager
Your time is up.
Laurie Ortolano
Thank you.
President Wilshire
Anyone else on Zoom? Need to put your hand up if you want to be recognized?
Beth Scaer
Yeah, hi. Beth Scaer, 111 East Hobart Street. I'm following up Alderman Moran made some comments at an aldermanic
committee meeting where he celebrated the defeat of House Bill 1077 which would have repealed the conversion therapy
ban. | just wanted to let him know and let everyone in the city know the therapy ban funnels kids who are gender confused
into affirmation only therapy that gives them no options for treatments except hormone blockers, cross sex hormones, and
having healthy body parts removed to make their bodies into a facsimile of the opposite sex. I'm grateful that the Nashua
Library has purchased the book “Irreversible Damage the Transgender Craze Seducing our Daughters”, which you can see
behind me. And | recommend this book to any parents or young people who are dealing with gender confusion or tempted
to go down this path because it leads to permanent physical changes and serious harm to their health. My hope is that
Alderman Moran and our other elected officials would read this book also and educate themselves about what's really going
on and not just celebrate sending these kids down this one way path to physical damage, to irreversible damage. Our young
people deserve better. Thank you.
Steven Scaer
Steven Scaer, 111 East Hobart Street. | also was concerned about Mel Moran celebration of the conversion, the therapy
ban not being repealed. When you think about conversion therapy, you think about electric shocks, or people being
snapped, or people being forced to do something. But this repeals talk therapy and not only for what they say a gay
conversion, but also for people that are struggling with gender identity being able to explore that. The consensus at the
hearing for this bill was that it only allows for affirmative therapy. If a therapist works with a young person to explore the
questions to make sure that there wasn't another problem at the root of the gender confusion, that therapist risks breaking
the law and losing a license. What's happening all over is that thousands of young people, especially gender confused girls,
they're way too young to give informed consent. They're getting pushed down a path of hormone blockers, wrong sex
hormones, and surgery. I’d encourage people to go to the dtransitioners subreddit page. | Know people say well its
“subreddit”. I'm not going to get my information from that. That's the only place where it's safe for the dtransitioners to talk.
They've been driven off of all sorts of forums and they can talk about what it's like trying to live with lifetimes of regret and
irreversibly mutilated bodies. So the conversion ban repeal defeat isn't something to be particularly proud of. Thank you.
REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
Alderman Moran
Yes, thank you Madam President. | would just like to reaffirm that | am very proud that House Bill 1077 was defeated as a
continuous attack on LGBTQ plus children to try to change them to be straight. | think it's very inappropriate for the House
to continue to push that Bill. Affirmation therapy is not - | guess I’m confused on that because | think if anyone came to
my office for mental health treatment and they were confused, we’d talked through that confusion and not convince them
one way or another. Affirmation therapy is saying yes, yes, yes, you're right. You're right. That is not what happens in
general talk therapy, in psychotherapy but | am certainly opposed to anyone who would want to see a gay person or a
bisexual person say no, that's wrong. You're 14 years old. You don't know what that is. It's almost the equivalent of
having a straight person come in and saying no, that's completely inappropriate you should be gay. People can have free
thought and | think we shouldn't support that.
