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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 6/10/2020 - P8

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Board of Aldermen 6-10-2020 Page 8

We have been an ISO Class II Fire Department for as long as I’ve been here. Again, | am not 100% sure,
but | am 99% sure, that in a very short time, we are going to be the first Fire Department in the State of
New Hampshire that is going to be an ISO Class | Fire Department. And that’s pretty big, because there
are less than 300 Fire or Rescue Organizations in the entire country who have achieved that level.

And we got to this, and we found this through the study that you so graciously approved, to help us
determine the needs of our Fire Department going forward based upon the growth of our organization.
Again, | am not guaranteeing that, in full transparency, we are 99% sure this is going to happen in very
short order.

To the contract — again we did not roll over as a City negotiating. The Board of Fire Commissioners,
Attorney Clarke was there through all of it, financial services, Rose Evans was there through much of this.
But it isn’t all just a give. The Fire Union made some pretty good concessions and | am going to highlight
three of them. So if you please excuse me, | am just going to read from the paper that | have so | don’t
misquote what is in this tentative agreement.

Currently, our dispatchers are paid time and a half overtime for every minute after their scheduled time,
which means they work varying schedules because of the rotation. So they could be 34, 38, 48 hours a
week. The way the current contract was written, if they worked 34 hours, they would get overtime for hour
35 at time and a half. We were able, through negotiations, to come to an agreement with Local 789 that we
brought that to 40 hours. But that 40 hours is just like the Fire Fighters and that is feet on the floor time,
which means they have to come to work. If you take a sick day, if you take a vacation day, you have to
make up those hours before you get into the time and a half overtime. That’s a big concession.

In this contract we negotiated for and the City wanted this, the Fire Administration wanted this, the Fire
Commission wanted this, when we got the three dispatchers in our Fire Alarm Office, the two person model
and the three person model currently, there is no defined outlined supervisor in that room. Currently, we
still have one trainer / clerk for the Fire Alarm Division. That means that one person is responsible for
training all of the different and new employees we bring in. So just think about that. One person is
responsible for, at the time, 7 others, excuse me, now 11 other people, so how do we get consistent
training for these members? We have to keep moving people around. We have to keep adjusting
schedules, so one of the things we did in this new contract was, and we have already tested for it, we have
tested to create and eliminate the Clerk Dispatcher position and create a Dispatch Supervisor position,
which would be similar to a Lieutenant. So now we have a person in that room 24/7 who is responsible for
decision making, who is accountable and it is not just peers. | mean no disrespect to our dispatchers when
| say this. This was peers working together and the difference might have been seniority. So now with this
contract, we can have a supervisor in that room 24/7 which is safer for our community, it’s safer for our Fire
Fighters, it is safer all around.

The third major concession that Local 789 made was in our promotional process. Currently you do need
any prerequisites other than one year on the Fire Department to testing to the Fire Marshall’s Division.
Through the negotiations we were able to secure that anyone starting on January 1* of 2021 who aspires
to be a member of the Fire Marshall's Division must have Fire Inspector | and Fire Inspector Certifications
prior to taking the exam. What does that do, what does that mean for us? That means we are saving
money now because we do not have to send someone out to achieve the Certification to do that job. That
was in the current contract.

| am not going to belabor this point; | fully understand the current situation we are in. Again we were in a
blue-chip economy, we were in record low unemployment, we were in record low vacancy rates in the City
of Nashua. The City of Nashua is exploding with building and developing which is putting more work on the
limited staff that we have and | am going to bring it up because it has to come up. Our Fire Fighters have
done the Safe Station Program for 4 years, with $0 additional benefit. They have done a fantastic job; they
have saved lives and it is because of the great job they did. And they took this on and they didn’t ask for
anything at the beginning because they knew we were in a problem; we had a huge problem as a City and
they took it on.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 6/10/2020 - P9

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Board of Aldermen 6-10-2020 Page 9

So again, | totally understand the situation we are in, | am taxpayer, | have been for many, many years. |
plan on being one for many more years. But at the end of the day, the question for me is, when is the right
time to do the right thing for the Nashua Fire Fighters. So | appreciate you giving me the opportunity to
speak, | am truly passionate about this organization because this organization has been so good to me and
my family.

Again, we are a shining star in the New England Region and far beyond and we are because we have
support from our community and we have good employees who do a fantastic job for us every day who are
not looking, they are not looking to get anything they don’t deserve, because they fully deserve it. So | ask
you, you have a tough decision before you, again | fully understand that and | just ask you to please, really
thing about the implications of this contract and think about the good things that your Fire Fighters do in our
community, every single day. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd

Thank you, Chief. Mr. Davidson, did you want to add something to the Chief's statements, or do you want
to wait until Public Comment.

Don Davidson, Nashua Fire Commissioner

The comment part may be appropriate if that fits the system.

Chairman Dowd

Ok, is there anyone else on the City side that wants to comment? OK and unless somebody has an
objection, | am going to ask that the President of the Nashua Fire & Rescue, if he would like to say anything

at this point or wait for public comment?

John McAllister, Nashua Fire & Rescue

The Chief hit a lot of good points right on. This contract has been negotiated: we’ve been in negotiations
for this for over a year now. Local 789 sent a letter of intent to the City and we started negotiations back in
March of 2019. It took that long before this Local stood firm on some of the goals that we wanted to
accomplish here. Those goals that we wanted to accomplish, as the Chief had mentioned, were to close
the gap in pay that our members currently have in reference to our brothers and sisters in the Police
Department. And again, | do not begrudge them, they are worth every penny that they make; but so aren't
our members.

As the Chief had stated, for four years now we have been dealing with opioid crisis in the City head on. Our
members are on the frontline. Four years ago our working conditions changed for the members of the
Local 789. We didn’t bat an eye; we took the challenge and we accepted it and | think our members have
done a fantastic job. Many lives have been saved and many people have fought the addiction and they
have come out on the other end. But our members have not been compensated for that. Four years a
change in working conditions and we haven't received any type of benefit for that. So that’s why we would
stood firm on the percentages that we are looking for.

Not too long ago this Board approved the contract for the Police Supervisors for 3% over a 4-year deal.

We are asking for 1/2 % more. We are asking for 72% more due to Safe Stations, due to our involvement in
that process. Over the past, as the Chief had mentioned, it is never a good time for the Fire Fighters. At
the end of March we finally came to a deal after two mediations. We had mediations for over 6 hours with a
private mediator, two separate occasions. And then we filed for fact finding. But at the last minute we went
back to the table and we were able to successfully come out with the agreement that you have before you
tonight. That’s a fair deal. It’s a fair deal for the City; it’s a fair deal for our members. As the Chief had said,
it's never a good time for the Fire Fighters. We come out at the end of February with that agreement and
then — Bam — COVID-19 hits us unexpectedly. Nobody saw this coming, it’s not our fault, it is nobody’s
fault.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 6/10/2020 - P10

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Board of Aldermen 6-10-2020 Page 10

But the thing that we have to remember is that our members since Day 1 have been on the front lines
dealing with COVID-19. We are going on calls every single day, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week dealing
with this.

Our members are very concerned about bringing this back home to their families. We understand that what
is going in the world right now is not a good time. But we are still fighting that fight. Over the past 10 years,
Local 789 has gotten an increase in pay, 19.5% over ten years. That’s 1.9% that our members have
received over the course of 10 years for pay raises. The last time we have seen a raise of 3% was back in
the 2008. That’s 12 years that we haven’t seen a raise over 2.5%. | believe the time is now that we pass
this, we approve this, we show good faith to the members of this organization that are on the front lines. As
the Chief had talked about a few of the concessions that we had made, the Fire Alarm Overtime is huge.
That’s a huge concession that affected, right now, 12 individuals of this Local. And we understood why
they wanted to do that and we gave up, we conceded on that. | don’t think you understand the importance
of the concessions that we made for the Fire Marshall's Exam.

As the Chief had said, currently right now any member can test for Fire Marshall with one year on the Fire
Department. They might not have the schooling and the education. Our contract right now says that they
have a certain time to get that education. With the new language and the concessions that this Local made,
that is going to benefit the City of Nashua tenfold. As we speak right now, our Fire Marshall Division is
already understaffed; it is understaffed and it is affecting the City of Nashua’s operations because they
need to get plans out. They need to get these out for people to open up businesses.

During this whole COVID-19 Crisis, with the outdoor seating, they had to go to make arrangements for
these restaurants to open their doors and allow people to sit outside and eat. So with the concession that
we made with that alone is going to benefit the City way more than anybody realized, because people are
going to go into that Division and they are going to be ready to go, they are going to come out of the door
running. Also, with the COVID-19 response, when this hit us back in March, Local 789’s Executive Board,
nobody has dealt with anything like this before.

The Governor declared a State of Emergency, we met with Administration, we said what are we going to
do, how are we going to handle this. What a lot of people don’t understand is the Local came up with a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Administration of the Fire Department to allow leniency on our
current contract, because we knew dealing with this crisis that contract language might have to be
changed. And instead of having that conversation every time it came up, we established a Memorandum of
Understanding that stated if there is going to be contract language that we are going to change, just have
conversation with the Local. The Local has worked, | believe, pretty well with the Incident Management
Team that was established by Chief Rhodes to handle the COVID-19 Crisis. They have had to change
contract language; we have allowed that to happen.

Not granted, that’s not a concession for this particular contract, but | bring that up because it reiterates the
seriousness of the situation that we are dealing with right now and how involved our members are. Our
members understood that this is outside of the box for everybody, but we are willing to do what we need to
do to get the job done, which we have always done. I'll end it with the members of Local 789 deserve
these raises. They deserve this contract. Not only because of Safe Stations, not only because of the
COVID Crisis, but because of the calls that they deal with everyday of the year, 365 days a year, 7 days a
week they are dealing with this. We are already short staffed as the Chief had talked about, the new study
that is coming out. That study was done 20 years ago and it called for 2 additional engine companies then.
So if you think about that, the increase in runs over the last 20 years, we are still doing it with six engines
and 3 ladders. Our companies are going out 15, 20 times a day, that’s one company alone, never mind
throughout the City.

| ask you tonight to approve the cost for this collective bargaining agreement. That was negotiated fairly
between the City of Nashua, the Fire Administration and Local 789. Thank you for your time.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 6/10/2020 - P11

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Chairman Dowd

Are there any of the Alderman that would have a clarifying question from anyone who has just presented?
Alderman Lopez?

Alderman Lopez

| was just curious; Safe Stations seems to being brought up a lot. Is the contract permitting the Fire
Department to continue doing it for the duration of the contract?

Mr. Davidson

No, there are no provisions whether we or not we do continue or not throughout the length of this contract.
Alderman Lopez, the %2% that we consider the raises for the Safe Stations were for the previous years that
we have done them, for the last 4 years.

Alderman Lopez

Do you have any plans to continue?
Mr. Davidson

| don’t know what the plan is for the City right now.

Alderman Lopez

OK just checking.
Chairman Dowd

Any other questions for any of the speakers from the Aldermen? Seeing and hearing none, | will now open
up testimony in favor of R-20-041. Former Mayor Davidson?

Testimony in Favor

Mr. Davidson_Thank you and | want to thank the Board of Aldermen for allowing us to join this meeting in
this modern fashion. | still think being in the same room and seeing body language is a better way to do
business, but we have to live with the times we are in. The comments that | am going to make may sound
repetitive, repetitive from the last time | talked to you about this contract to some of the comments made by
the Chief and to a degree a few of the comments made by Don. This contract is not excessive. When it
first came out, | was, | don’t want to say chastised, | was given a little “what for’ about the contents of the
contract. And I, from the very beginning, started to explain my view of why this contract was so necessary,
as | still feel strongly that it is necessary.

The contract is getting up to the point of being on par with the responsibilities of the men and women who
protect our City every day through their position as Fire Fighters and Administrative Staff, because they all
play a roll. The contract still is below other Departments mean overall percentage that they’ve been able to
get over the years. But as everybody before me has said, we are not here trying to tear anybody down.
We are here trying to say the Fire Department needs to be brought up, in some fashion, to the real world.
I’d like to put what the Fire Department has gone through for these many years, through an analogy of
siblings growing up. The oldest boy or gal gets the new clothes and the new clothes last awhile and then
they passed down to the next in line. And you say, how can you make analogy like that? Well the Fire
Department over the years, have sort of felt they are in the same position. Other Departments get in and
lobby and get a percentage in their contract that is very, very good. And when the Fire Department’s turn
comes up, Oh we can’t do that, we can’t do that, we don’t have enough.

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Board of Aldermen 6-10-2020 Page 12

Now for those of you who have been around awhile like | have, you’d seen it. It is not uncommon for the
Fire Department in the past to be the second level of contract. Now again, this contract isn’t putting it on a
par with anybody, it is just giving them what they should be getting given the responsibilities that they have
everyday for us. There has some discussion about Safe Station. Safe Station came in several years ago
and the whole idea of Safe Station was very noble. As John said, we had a terrible crisis in the City back
then that needed Safe Station type of assistance. There was a segment of our population back then that
were very against this, they didn’t really realize why they were against it, they were against the issue that
this was trying to correct. Nonetheless, the Firemen went out creating uproar, took on the responsibility.
And if you folks could see the list of what they have accomplished over these years in handling the Safe
Station customers, you’d be as impressed as | was.

Now some question about they are going to do going forward. Well we, as a City, haven’t made our mind
up yet.

Chairman Dowd

One minute, Don.

Mr. Davidson _l’m sorry?

Chairman Dowd

One minute.

Mr. Davidson Oh | didn’t know | had time, in that case | probably would have spoken...
Chairman Dowd

Keep going.

Mr. Davidson We don’t know what we are going to do with the City except that the State has come down
and changed the whole process. They have created an agency in the City from 8 to 5 and any Safe Station
type of need is supposed to be handled by that facility. But the question pops up, what happens after 5:00
and until 8:00 in the morning. And what is happening is they are going to the Fire Station. That is going to
be addressed going forward, but the Firemen are still there doing their job and as has been said by others,
not getting paid to do that extra work. How many of us would work over these many years, doing something
extra, without getting any kind of renumeration. I’m sorry | didn’t know | was on a time thing here, but | do
want to close by saying this, this contract is fair. It is helping the Administration going forward. It is not
overkill, it is not excessive. When you are thinking about doing it, think about the needs for the Fire
Department. Why do we need it? Well fires are obvious and you especially want them if it is your house
that is on fire. Think of all the other things the Fire Department does, the members of the Fire Department,
what about the medical calls? Ve have thousands of medical calls every year. We don’t really know about
them as citizens but they happen, somebody has a heart attack, somebody falls downstairs, somebody
gets stuck in an elevator. Now for me, | kind of laugh, | try to push it out the door, how many of you people
want to be stuck in an elevator? Guess who comes and gets you? 99.9% of the time — the Fire
Department. How about people who are elderly and fall out of bed.

Chairman Dowd
OK I’ve got to ask you to wrap up Don if you can.

Mr. Davidson Alright I’m sorry, I’ll take any questions but as | have said before this is a very important
instrument for the men and women of your Fire Department. Thank you.

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Alderman O’Brien

Mr. Chairman? May | rise to ask a parliamentary question, please?

Chairman Dowd

Sure.

Alderman O’Brien

You did not mention that there would be a time limit and we do have two testimony in favor and two
testimony in opposition. Would Mr. Davidson where he may have had to cut his point of view short, could
he speak again in the second half of the testimony in question?

Chairman Dowd

Yes.

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman Dowd

Yeah | did mention at the beginning of the meeting as in all the Public Hearings recently, 5 minutes, we
don’t know how many people are on, how many people want to speak and you should be able to articulate
what you want to say in 5 minutes. But! always give the opportunity to speak again if somebody has a
second thought, particularly if there is somebody that says something in opposition and they want to refute

it. Again, if there is no one else in favor, any testimony in opposition?

Testimony in Opposition- None

Testimony in Favor

Chairman Dowd
Mayor Davidson, do you want to finish your thoughts?

Mr. Davidson Well yes, thank you for the opportunity. | won’t ramble on but | did mention to you my strong
feeling about the need for the contract. And it is tied to the Budget, you folks know that, you’ve got the
Budget coming up so you’ve got to keep that in mind too. We need the contract passed because they
deserve it. But then when it is passed, we need the funds to fund it. And you people have got to deal with
money that you don’t have. | am very aware that the revenues for the City and | am aware from my past
experience, the revenues for the City have been nil for about 3 months, compared to what it normally is.
Your State Revenues have gone through the floor, so when they come time to pass out to the cities and
towns, there is going to be a shortfall. So you guys are really facing a really difficult problem. But we can’t
worry about what is going to happen in the future by handcuffing what is right now. We still need to have
dedicated, professional, and needed men and women in the Fire Department.

So when it comes time for the Budget, you do know we are short with what you have in front of you now.
So when you take and do your considerations of the Budget, | ask formally for a number of what
$500,000.00 which was what was cut from the Budget would do the tax rate today, at today’s dollars. $500
K is $.05 cents per thousand. So when we are considering are the Fire Department worth getting a good
contract for the next four years and you’ve got a money issue you are facing with, please remember $.05
per thousand for the taxpayers. That is all | have and thank you and good luck in your deliberation.

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Testimony in Opposition- None

Chairman O’Brien

Before we adjourn, is there anybody from the Board of Aldermen that has a question for Attorney Clarke or
Treasurer Fredette on either one of the items that we just had the Public Hearing on as they will probably
be stepping off of the meeting? Alderman Lopez.

Alderman Lopez

| have a question. Is Chief Rhodes still on?
Chairman Dowd

It looks like he’s still on, there he goes.
Chief Rhodes

Sorry about that.

Alderman Lopez

So | got kind of an ambiguous answer when | was asking about plans for Safe Station, as it was continually
referenced. | know that the Fire Station did a huge roll with accepting people who were walking up and
they were talking about a greater partnership where Harbor Homes, AMR and other partners were also
working — but what are the plans for that moving forward. Because my understanding from some of the
Mayor's previous public comments that that program was being downsized and | know that the Governor
has altered the model.

Chief Rhodes

Well thank you for that question, Alderman. You are correct, things are changing. | think things are
changing as far as Harbor Homes involvement and | think Harbor Homes was the linchpin to the successes
we had. But first and foremost, we all have to understand that we are an emergency services organization.
We are not a social services organization. We have taxpayers who fund us and who expect us and
rightfully so to respond in a timely and efficient manner to their emergency. Many Safe Station clients are
from out of the City of Nashua. One of the things that we made crystal clear form Day 1, was the need to
have Nashua Fire Companies available in 15 minutes or less.

Unfortunately for the City of Nashua, the Governor decided he had a better plan and the Governor never
came to us and asked us about our program and basically said, this is the program. | can tell you with
100% certainty and 8:00 to 5:00 program will not work for Nashua Fire & Rescue. We cannot, excuse me
one minutes, sorry about that. Nashua Fire & Rescue is not in the business of making phone calls to find
an open program and open bed, call 211, that’s not our role. The role your Fire Fighters have played for
the last 4 years was to be caring and compassionate and to welcome everyone into our Fire Stations and
made ano judgement zone. Those were why the Safe Station Program was so very successful. It was the
collaboration of the City of Nashua, the leadership of Mayor Donchess, the leadership of Chief Steve
Galipeau, at the time, the Union Leadership of John McAllister, and his Executive Board. That’s why this
worked.

Unfortunately going forward, all of these things have been taken out of our control. | cannot put any more
burden on our Fire Fighters because, again, they are not clinically trained as social workers. They are not
trained to go through a call and make 4, 5, 6, 7 calls to try to find a spot for someone to land. So the short
answer is, the future of Safe Station is very dim and | think that light is dimming by the day.

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AMENDED
O-16-023

ORDINANCE

AUTHORIZING FREE HOLIDAY PARKING AT METERS IN ZONE IT WHICH
INCLUDES THE ELM STREET AND HIGH STREET PARKING GARAGES FROM
DECEMBER 14, 2016 THROUGH JANUARY 3, 2017

CITY OF NASHUA

In the Year Two Thousand and Sixteen

The City of Nashua ordains that Part II “General Legislation”, Chapter 320 “Vehicles
and Traffic”, Article XI “Parking Meters”, Section 320-47 “Parking meter and reserved space
fees; permits; meter bags”, subsection A of the Nashua Revised Ordinances, as amended, be
hereby further amended by deleting the struck-through language and adding the new underlined
language as follows:

“§ 320-47. Parking meter and reserved space fees; permits; meter bags.

A. The parking fee forall ...

Gs:
Crs
Bs:

(a) The parking fees in Subsection A(3) above, which includes the
metered spaces in the Elm Street and High Street parking garages,

shall not be enforced from December+0;,2015-through January3,;
2046 December 14, 2016 through January 3. 2017.”

All ordinances or parts of ordinances inconsistent herewith are hereby repealed.

This ordinance shall become effective upon final passage.

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City of Nashua
November 30, 2021

Transit Center Retrofit Project

Greenman-Pedersen, Inc. Greenman-Pedersen, Inc.
PHASE WORK-HOURS
p DA
Project Senior Project Resident Project MEP COST TOTAL

Principal Manager Engineer Engineer Engineer Principal Architect Engineer Estimator HOURS TOTAL COST

5.0 [CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES 0
5.1 Construction Administration 150 150 $9,750
5.2 Resident Engineering & Inspection 884 884 $32,266
5.3 Building Inspection 40 0 40 $2,017
5.4 Project Close-out 8 8 $403
SUBTOTAL: 0 150 0 0 884 0 40 8 0 0 1,082 $403
TOTAL: 0 150 0 0 884 0 40 8 0 0 1,082 $0

0% 14% 0% 0% 82% 0% 4% 1% 0% 0%
AVERAGE CLASSIFICATION RATES: $ 78.00 $ 65.00 $ 53.50 §$ 38.50 $ 36.50 §$ 64.32 §$ 50.42 $ 50.42 $§$ 38.25 § 26.08
Direct Labor Totals: $ $ 9,750.00 $ $ $ 32,266.00 $ $ 2,016.80 $ 403.36 $ $ $ 44,436.16
Overhead Totals: $ $ 15,744.30 §$ $ $ 40,335.73 $ $ 3,256.73 §$ 651.35 §$ $ $ 59,988.10
Fee Totals: $ $ 2,549.43 § $ $ 7,260.17 $ $ 527.35 §$ 105.47 $ $ $ 10,442.43
Direct Expenses: $ $ : $ $ $ - $ 2,000.00
Project Total: $ $ 28,043.73 §$ $ $ 79,861.90 $ - $ 5,800.88 §$ 1,160.18 §$ - $ $ 116,866.69
Office Overhead Rate: 161.48%
Field Overhead Rate: 125.01%
Fee: 10%
Direct Expenses:
Travel $ 1,500.00
Other Misc $ -
Materials

Subconsultants Testing 500.00
SUBTOTAL: $ 2,000.00

GRAND TOTAL $ 116,866.69

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And it is not by anything that we can do because that is not something that the City of Nashua should have
to bear the burden because the State of New Hampshire is receiving an incredible amount of money to deal
with this but unfortunately, they never consulted us to see why our model was so successful.

And again, | think you know Alderman Lopez, from your association with Harbor Homes, that is a great
organization that stepped to the forefront, that has been there for us, for the City of Nashua for the past four
years, 24/7 365. And they have not let us down one iota in any of the promises that they made. And our
Fire Fighters have not let us down. But we cannot get into a program where we are going to put a Fire
Company in the City of Nashua because of the activity level that we are already at, we cannot have a Fire
Company out of service for a half hour, 45 minutes to an hour, trying to make phone calls. That’s not the
role of an emergency service organization.

So | hope | gave you the answer you are looking for; a little bit more maybe than you were asking for, but |
think we have to be fully transparent here. | have been, I’ve probably been the biggest champion of the
Nashua Safe Stations for the Fire Department for the last 4 years. And it pains me to tell you this. But
those are the hard, cold facts of this and | just don’t think that this should be put on the backs of our
Nashua Fire Fighters or the taxpayers of the City of Nashua, going forward.

Chairman Dowd

All set, Alderman Lopez?

Alderman Lopez

Actually | would like to respond. So | appreciate the thoroughness of your response because it does put
context to it. This is not the first time I’ve seen the State redirect or rearrange that was working really well
in Nashua, particularly the Safe Station. So your context definitely makes sense. In reference to what
former Mayor Davidson said earlier, you Know, would anybody do this extra work without asking for any
extra pay? Actually | did, because | was managing Maple Street Shelter through the kick-off of the Safe
Station Program and it was basically dumped in my lap. | was asked, you know, are you and your staff
willing to take the overnight overflow people.

So we were working with the after-hours element of it as well. And we were the ones that were calling 211,
we were the ones that were connecting them with recovery sites and created the model on Harbor Homes’
side. So knowing that first-hand and the amount of work that is involved with that, it is not a role | would
imagine for our Fire Fighters to be taking moving forward. So | appreciate you making sure that we didn’t
have that mission and our Fire Fighters weren’t being pushed in a direction where they are not really able
to manage it.

Because what our Fire Fighters do really, really well is fight fires and there’s plenty of that and there is
plenty of concern about it. | mean during this meeting, | must’ve had 12 fireworks go off about 300 feet
away. So | appreciate the efforts that you guys do. | was just wondering about the context of the Safe
Station since it was brought up so many times. So thank you for your answer, | appreciate it.

Chairman Dowd

Thank you, Alderman Lopez. Anyone else that has any questions for Attorney Clarke or Treasurer
Fredette? Seeing and hearing none. Alderman O’Brien would you please give us a motion?

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