Special Bd. of Aldermen — 10/26/15 Page 12
Alderman Lopez
But an excavator wouldn't?
Ms. Taylor it is not as precise is what I’m saying. It’s not even that it would come up next to the sewer line but
that if you have a big open space right next to that, the potential for that to collapse, to break, is much greater
than if you have one small part that is being, one secant pile is being drilled.
Mr. Millan-Ramos It is definitely a much more surgical approach and numerous test pitting have been done in
the past and we have a very good idea of where this waste is located.
Mr. Santos So on the cross section here you can see the sewer main there and you see the river here, so
you’ve got a very narrow swath here where the sewer main is where the sludge is, very close to the river. So if
you start excavating this, if this is an excavation rather than a wall here, you’ve got a potentially 25 foot sheer
wall, that would have to be supported with shoring or piling. It is certainly possible, the costs go way up to be
able to hold back, you are basically holding back the river. We have to be prepared, we get a 500 year flood
event while we are doing it, we have to hold that back too. So we are essentially preserving this little swath,
and if you can do the site walk tomorrow, you'll see, we walk right over the sewer main and you can see the
distance. We are talking 10 to 20 to maybe 30 feet to the edge of the sludge.
Alderman Lopez
| think that answers my question.
Alderman Tencza
Can | ask, Nashua can’t be the first City to dig a project like this, especially | would imagine that in Rhode
Island with all the industry that is down there with all the water that is down there, there are other examples of
clean-up sites that have either used a secant wall or have removed any toxins from the soil. Can you give us
examples of other projects that would be similar to this and projects that may have been around for 10 or 15
years and if there have been any studies that have been done to essentially prove the effectiveness of the
secant wall versus removing the soil from the area?
Ms. Taylor | don’t have any specific examples that are right next to a river or that have been implemented, at
least not in the region for say 15 years. But one of the sites | worked on before | became a manager of this
section was a site in Concord, Massachusetts, where we are essentially doing the same thing. It’s nota
cement bentonite but it is a bentonite clay that is going around radioactive material that is in essentially a
lagoon, we call it a holding basin, but it is essentially the same thing. We are basically the exact same remedy
there.
We are also, in terms of tannery sites, there are a couple of other tannery waste sites that we have in the
region where we have consolidated and capped on site and both of those are in relatively close proximity to
rivers in the State of Massachusetts.
Alderman Tencza
Is there a reason that you in those projects chose to cap the waste, was it just cost or were there other?
Ms. Taylor It was just the most effective remedy from looking at all the criteria that we evaluate. Cost is one of
the criteria that we evaluate, but in terms of its implement ability, its effectiveness and comparing cost with
other alternatives, it has been the best alternative that we have chosen at a couple of sites. We haven’t used
secant walls in those because they are not as close to the river as this, so as | said before, this is kind of like a
belt and suspenders kind of approach. Whereas other sites, we have just capped it and left it there with an