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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 9/25/2018 - P5

By dnadmin on Sun, 11/06/2022 - 22:19
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Board Of Aldermen
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Special Bd. of Aldermen — 10/26/15 Page 5
type process, we would have only have put out architecture and engineering type of RFQ. That was not the
intent and then even in the memo that is before you relative to the New Market Tax Credit, there is a reference
to gross maximum price type contracting for a New Market Tax Credit. That is the exact type of contract that is

going to need to be entered into. These are not new concepts, these are just the way the construction industry
works and we were planning on following that type of process.

Alderman Lopez

As we are creating a non-profit, is it a precursor to being able to accept the New Market Tax Credits, because |
am just wondering non-profits don’t always start on time. They have to get approved by the IRS and there are
articles and by-laws. So is that something that might hold it up, is there an existing non-profit that we could
use.

Mr. Cummings

Mr. President if | may? In one of the documents that you have there is a strategic guiding document that
outlines that we should develop a strategic partnership with City Arts Nashua and we will be looking to execute
upon that in the next couple of weeks.

Alderman Lopez
Ok | am very relieved to hear that.
Alderman Jette

| have another question. You talked about raising money through these tax credits, a lot of us are not familiar
with tax credits, the fact that they are tax credits, it is still private money that is coming forward right?

Mr. Cummings

Yes.

Alderman Jette

Could you explain a little bit about that.

President McCarthy

If we are going to have a presentation from the tax credit consultant I’d rather do that there because it is a
lengthy topic.

Alderman Jette
Ok.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

Yes thank you. Director Cummings, thank you for including the strategic document around an operational
plan. | know a number of us around the horseshoe have been involved in looking at the samples that were
sent and in providing input, probably more than Director Cummings really. One, in putting this together but |
think when you look at this and | know it will be posted with the minutes, it speaks clearly to the City not
operating the Performing Arts Center but that it will be operated by a third party private operator, which is what
we certainly heard loud and clear when there was conservation a year ago about this project.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 9/25/2018 - P6

By dnadmin on Sun, 11/06/2022 - 22:19
Document Date
Tue, 09/25/2018 - 00:00
Meeting Description
Board Of Aldermen
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Special Bd. of Aldermen — 10/26/15 Page 6

| think it is important to know that, and for the public to Know, that was heard and that is what is being put out
there. It will be privately operated with accountability to a Board. The City will not be involved in the day-to-

day operation or programming or set designs and lighting and all those technical aspects that we don’t have

expertise in.

Mr. Cummings

Just one final comment, | wanted to make sure | put it out there to the Board of Aldermen to the general public,
that if people want to get involved and you want to volunteer or in some way contribute your time, resources,
we would very much welcome that. We will have the Facebook page available if you want to reach out to us or
otherwise you can contact me and | would be happy to align you with the appropriate entity depending on what
your interest level would be.

We would very much love to see volunteers get engaged with this project. We would welcome that, thank you
Mr. President.

President McCarthy

| would just like to comment, it is sort of unfortunate that the project has had to be a little quiet; the fund raising
effort had some initial feasibility work that had to be done. Again the next phase of it is identifying some major
donors. There is the temptation to just run out and do these things and | think it was utterly important that we,
as Director Cummings said, step back and do it right. | want to thank Director Cummings first of all for all the
work that he has put into it and also the members of the Steering Committee. | hope that | don’t forget
anybody, Mrs. Hall, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja, Alderwoman Klee, Alderwoman Wilshire, Alderwoman Kelly
and Alderwoman Schmidt have been in there with the meetings. Also, Mrs. Carlson and | see Mr. Lannan and
| think | saw Marylou Blaisdell back there somewhere, all of whom who have been heavily involved in the
Steering Committee work so far.

The Operations Committee, as Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja said, gave Mr. Cummings more than enough input to
work up the RFP and | think we have finally come to a fairly good structure for that. We are going to next take
on the architect and construction manager selection and | think the fund raising committee has gone far ahead,
and from what we see, this is actually a serious project. There is real commitment of money to make this
succeed. There is a structure to make this succeed and | think it is going to result in something that will be a
fantastic addition to our downtown. So thank you all who were involved and please, everybody keep it up.

Alderwoman Kelly

Sorry | know you were wrapping up. | just had a question about the combined $6.5 million, I’m not sure |
understand how that works. But you bring up a good point, so the capital campaign says $2.5 million, what is
that combination?

Mr. Cummings

So if | may Mr. President. The sources are essentially 3 or 4 depending on how you look at it and how you
want to account for it. You have private individual contributions, you have foundations, you have tax credits.
So the $2.5 is looking to be generated through a combination of CDFA State of NH tax credits and
contributions from private individuals or corporations. Separate from that is another source, which is a New
Market Tax Credit which is private funding and that is very similar to the CDFA type model except it is a federal
level type program.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 6/9/2016 - P6

By dnadmin on Sun, 11/06/2022 - 21:34
Document Date
Thu, 06/09/2016 - 00:00
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Board Of Aldermen
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Thu, 06/09/2016 - 00:00
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attending a Nashua charter school. Right now we have about 7-8 bus runs that we run morning and afternoon for
children for both ASD and the new Micro Society Charter School. When ASD came about, we added two buses into
our budget. It costs about $90,000. Since then we have added additional routes from within existing buses. A
second area of responsibility is to provide special education services to any Nashua student attending a charter
school wherever that charter school may be. Primarily we’re providing services at this point to the Gate City Schools
for the Arts in Merrimack for Nashua students attending that school and to the Micro Society Charter School. Last
year we put in an allowance of $45,000 into our budget, actually for this year, so that we can begin increasing our
resources to enable us to serve children identified for special services in two additional locations. | would note for
the record that we do provide services to the charter schools. | would also note that we have a very good
relationship with our charter schools in Nashua. We recognize they are all Nashua students. In many cases, they
come back to Nashua schools. We have built a working relationship with the directors of those schools in both
resolving transportation issues and providing special education services.

Chairman Dowd

| would say on the custodian issue, that is in litigation and is probably not good to discuss in public comment. That’s
between the Board of Education and the union. | don’t think we need to comment on that.

Mr. Teeboom

Just a follow up, | understand that the public school provides transportation. I’m talking about the cost of the
student. If you establish a charter school, and that’s what you tried at one time, within a public school those charter
school students come in at a cost of $6,000 a student, not the $13,000 per student. | did the calculations, | sent
them to you. No one responded back to me. | showed a savings of $4.4 million for the 464 Nashua kids. You can
disagree and recalculate it you disagree, but | have not seen anybody disagree. That’s a substantial savings. A
final note, a charter school has to meet all the same federal laws. Charter schools must accept special education
kids. Charter schools are held to the same disability laws that created all the secondary school laws. The custodial
thing, it may be litigation, but the fact that it is, the school board | hope does not drop it. That’s another anywhere
from one to four million dollars in savings. Thank you.

Mr. Bob Sherman, President of the Teachers Union, 7C Taggert Drive

As far as eliminating secretaries, | wonder then who’s going then since we have security on all our schools and all
our doors, who is going to let individuals or parents in or out of the building. Who is going to take the phone calls
from parents that want to have their kids dismissed or want to get in touch with their kid in the schools? These are
all jobs that our secretaries indeed do. There’s a particular line item in the budget that all this information is going to
focus on. | want the public to be aware of the fact that Nashua is among the 100 most diverse cities in the United
States. It is No. 96 based on racial makeup, demographics and economic factors. More than 40 percent of Nashua
students qualify for free and reduced lunches. There are 55 different languages spoken in the homes of Nashua
students, which the Nashua School system needs to address. The New Hampshire state average school loan debt
is $33,410 which ranks us as number 2 in the nation. The portion of New Hampshire students with debt is 76
percent which ranks us number 1 in the nation. The average UNH graduate debt in 2014 was $36,965. That was
79 percent of the graduates. Therefore, the superintendent and the school committee have only $814,000 to
increase the department’s salaries which is to cover raises in administrative positions, principals, custodians,
secretaries, para-educators and the teachers whose contract ends at the end of August. This increase in the salary
account will not even cover the scheduled step increases listed in the present contract which steps in the last
contract were increased from 9 to 15 steps, a 67 percent increase for the number of years needed to reach the top
of the teacher pay scale. That still leaves 40 percent of our teachers at the top of the pay scale with no step pay
increase. There are over 100 teaching positions posted as being vacant in the system, which does not count for
those already filled by leaving or retiring teachers. Surrounding districts all have pay scales with steps that have
increased their steps and have not frozen them which has happened in Nashua. If the steps are not paid, the
teachers will move to districts that will live by their commitments of promised pay in the future for loyal service to that
district. Nashua in the 1990s was the best paying district in New Hampshire for teachers at the top and the bottom
of the step schedule. The average Nashua teacher salary for the 15-16 school years is $59,267, which is now
$2,651 over the New Hampshire state average of teachers’ salaries. There are 53 districts with higher average
teacher salaries in New Hampshire than Nashua including Amherst, Brookline, Concord, Hollis, Londonderry,
Manchester and Portsmouth. So | ask you: how does the board of education, this board of aldermen and the mayor
expect to attract and keep the best educated teachers graduating from the best colleges and universities with their

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 9/25/2018 - P7

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President McCarthy

That is an anticipated $6.5 million dollars’ worth of credit funding, not including the endowments, correct?

Mr. Cummings

Correct. So | want to be clear on this point, so the credit will be potentially just under $6.5 after you take fees
away, you are probably somewhere around $4.2 in that range and then that is the cash that is available for the
New Market Tax Credit. Then the $2.5 would be a combination of CDFA tax credits and/or private
contributions either from individuals, businesses, or foundations. As a total it would be $6.5.

Alderman Klee

Thank you. | just wanted to thank everybody that has been on the committee and | can tell you that | have
given them a hard time as to when are we going to start doing the funding, when are we going to do this and or
that, because | get the phone calls. | learned very quickly how the process has to go and it was difficult to get
through my brain that we don’t just go out and put our hands out and ask for money. There has to be an entire
process. And | really want to commend Director Cummings for his steadfast hard work on it and the rest of the
Committee members, so thank you.

Alderman Tencza

Thank you Mr. President and thank you Director Cummings for being here. If | could each one thing | think he

said which everyone in the City should pay attention to is that we should all be positive about this. And | think
that giving folks more information about the project on an on-going basis helps people to be more positive. So
thank you Director Cummings for being here tonight and giving us this presentation.

If | could just ask, | think the tax credits is a big part of this and probably if we could schedule another one of
these sessions in the near future so that the Board as well as the community can understand how that is going
to work and how that is going to affect the financing for this project, | would suggest that is another good idea
to keep people informed and positive.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

Yes and to that point Director Cummings, | don’t know if it possible, but when the consultant comes to speak to
the Steering Committee, is it possible to do that, where it could be joint Steering Committee/BOA or do a follow
up presentation to the BOA.

President McCarthy

| think we can do it either way. The consultant is reasonably local as | recall. So it is not hard to schedule
meetings.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

| just think it might be helpful for people to hear the same thing at the same time and for the community to hear
that also. Sometimes you do a presentation a second time and leave out some of the details that help people
better understand.

President McCarthy

We will work on that. Any other business?

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 9/25/2018 - P8

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Special Bd. of Aldermen — 10/26/15 Page 8

ADJOURNMENT

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE TO ADJOURN
MOTION CARRIED

The meeting was declared adjourned at 7:04 p.m.

Attest: Patricia D. Piecuch, City Clerk

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