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IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have caused this contract to be signed and intend to be
legally bound thereby.

“City of Nashua, NH (signature) (signature)
——__ James W. Donchess, Mayor

(Printed Name and Title) (Printed Name and Title)
Date Date

AG 4of4

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to conduct the business of the city to be dealing with people who are acting out, or unfamiliar with technology, and all that
type of stuff. We have different roles for reasons.

| think if we were really going to do this right, we would need somebody who’s a dedicated moderator. To be blunt, we
haven't even managed to fill our second aldermanic assistant position in several years. Other than asking other
departments to do it like the videographers, | don’t think it’s fair for us as Aldermen to say well we want the public to have
a privilege. We’re not going to pay for it. We don’t know who can do it. We’re just going to expect it to continue. | don’t
think it’s realistic or sustainable. While | do think that Zoom has played a crucial role in managing the pandemic, | also
take note of the fact that a lot of the speakers who are currently defending its use were pretty opposed to us meeting via
Zoom and made the point that we needed to face the public and be here doing the city’s business. | think that does
extend to the public as well. It’s an opportunity and it’s impactful for the public to come and speak in person. | think we’ve
lost sight of that in a lot of ways where it’s easier to access as a click of a button. | think some people who may have
come out and really engaged in issues and maybe watched the whole meeting don’t have to now because they can just
turn it on when it’s their time to speak.

| don’t agree that it disenfranchises more people that not. | don’t think that we have adequate moderation mechanisms in
place right now. I’m not impressed by the public’s level of participation in some select cases but | don’t think this is a
decision that was made because of the people who are abusing it. | think it’s a feasibility decision and | don’t think Lord
Wilshire is alone in her belief that this is something that if we’re going to do it, we really need to put a lot more effort and
time into assembling the infrastructure for it and making sure it works. | say that out of respect for the videographers who
are trying to do it, the Aldermen who are trying to operate it and meetings at the same time, and the public who often want
to be heard but it’s much easier for someone to take up their time and to espouse their political beliefs and opinions if they
don’t even have to come down here to do it.

So | think we had a pretty good system for 100 plus years where the public could make comments in person and
governance was conducted in person. | would like to reserve the right to re-engage it for the public if COVID numbers go
up again and we have an outbreak of whatever else shows up in the next couple of years. | think if we’re going to
continue doing it for meetings, it should only be available to Aldermen or more importantly to city staff. If they’re making
presentations, or they can’t come to attend the meeting, or it would be cost prohibitive, | want to save the taxpayers
money by letting them do it remotely. | think the presentations come across more smoothly to the public when they do.

Additionally, | would also like to say that when we talk about access to meetings, there’s not very good education even
amongst board members as to how we can access meetings. The public does have access through public access. The
public has live access through the website. So you can stream it live. I’ve been on this Board where Aldermen pre-
COVID saw something on TV and then came bolting down to participate because they were concerned about what we
were doing or what we were saying. That’s been around for along time. You can go to CTV on the city’s website and
watch these proceedings live. If you do feel like you want to make public comment, you can watch it live and then come
down at the end. So | don’t think the public is having any rights infringed by having Zoom removed. | think it behooves us
to look at this a little bit more carefully and make sure that if we are going to offer it, we are moderating it because we
don’t have any way to control language. We don’t really have a way to control what people are doing on the screen. We
couldn’t even control what people names were as Alderman O’Brien can attest to and we aren't able to confirm that the
people speaking are even who they say they are who where they say they are, which are some things we can do at least
here in person. Thank you.

Alderman Jette

Thank you Madam President. Before tonight’s meeting, | was hoping to get a jump here and move that this be referred to
the Personnel and Administrative Affairs Committee where a full discussion could be had. Since I’m the sixth speaker, it
sounds like we’re going to like or not, we’re doing it tonight.

| think there are a lot of questions. A lot of good questions that have been raised. | don’t think we really have the
answers. The technical aspects of running a Zoom meeting — | experience a lot of Zoom meetings and | don’t run into the
same problems that we run into here. | don’t pretend to be a technical expert by any means whatsoever. So | don’t know
why these other groups that | work with are able to conduct Zoom meetings apparently without much difficulty and why we
have so much problem. | don’t know what the answer to that is. | was hoping that the committee could have some of the
people with that type of expertise come and offer their suggestions. | know I’m on the Cable TV Advisory Board and there
are members on that board who are very technically proficient who might be able to offer us some guidance here.

I’m in favor of giving the public the opportunity to participate and | think the introduction of Zoom kind of came to us as a
result of the COVID problem. For me, it taught me that we could allow much more access by — I’m thinking of the public
yes but also Aldermen who couldn’t come for whatever reasons. I’m also thinking about like in our committees. We often

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times have experts who appear before the committee to offer some perspective on some project or whatever. These
experts, they charge if you have them come to a meeting and they speak for 10 minutes at a meeting, they're clock starts
the minute they leave their home or their office. All of that time traveling here, sitting here, waiting for their time, when
they finally give their presentation, and then all the time they spend going back to where they came from we have to pay
them and a pretty penny for that. Zoom allows them to come in, give their presentation in a very short period of time. It’s
avery cost effective way of getting the advantage of that type of testimony.

| don’t want to repeat what other people have said the reasons for continuing to have Zoom but | do want to point out this
came to us as a result of COVID. Ladies and gentlemen, COVID is not over. We're acting like it’s something in the past.
Most of us feel comfortable coming to meetings without masks now. They’re predicting that there’s going to be another
wave of infections coming this fall. From my own selfish motives, | don’t want us forcing people to fill up this room in
coming here who may or may not be vaccinated, who may not choose to wear a mask. | think it’s putting us ina
vulnerable position. | still think it’s a good idea to refer this to the committee and get the people who know the answer to
these questions to give us the benefit of their expertise. | know this motion doesn’t cut off debate. | would like to make a
motion that it be referred to the Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN JETTE TO REFER TO PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Dowd

Yeah, | think it does cut off debate because now we'll be debating whether to send it to Personnel Committee. It didn’t go
to any committee when we started using Zoom. We started using Zoom when City Hall was shut down. We couldn’t have
meetings here. That’s how it started and we started just by | believe the President saying we're going to use Zoom now
because we can’t go to City Hall. It’s closed. | don’t think there’s anything that can be discussed at that committee that
can't be discussed here at the full Board right now because we’re all here. Half of you have already discussed it. | think
the rest of us want a chance to discuss it. If you go to a committee, you only have a handful of the Board unless
everybody shows up in which case you're basically calling another full Board meeting. | don’t think it’s productive to send
it to any committee.

Alderwoman Kelly

I’m going to defer to after the motion.

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you Madam President. Hearing what some of the people have said does not alieve the President of the Board runs
the call of the meeting. If the President of the Board, in my interpretation and I'll ask the question to the President and if
you want to refer with Corporate Counsel, but if the President deems to allow Zoom for aldermanic use or for receiving
testimony, that was the call of the Chair. That is her prerogative as the Chair and | think that is backed by the book of
Mason’s and that is, again, referred to what happens at the State level. What should be good for the State of New
Hampshire should be good for little ‘ol Nashua here. So therefore, the modifications can be made on this through the call
of the particular Chair. If Madam President if you want to refer that question to Corporate Counsel?

President Wilshire

Yes | do.

Steve Bolton, Corporate Counsel

Well yes. The presiding officer, the President of the Board of Aldermen, and in the case of the Board of Aldermen makes
decisions but those decisions are subject to the will of the majority of the Board. If on a particular evening the President
were to say that yes its okay if one of our Division Directors made a presentation on an issue by way of Zoom or other
remote platform, it could be done and unless the majority disagreed with that, there would be no problem with doing that.

Alderman O’Brien

Madam President may | be able to make an amendment to my motion?

President Wilshire

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Yes.

Alderman O’Brien

Well we do have a pending motion from Alderman Jette. So after we disburse with that, | would like to make if | may be
recognized. Thank you Madam Chair.

Alderman Clemons

Well this is on the motion to refer, correct?

President Wilshire

Yes.

Alderman Clemons

So | will defer any comments on that.
Alderman Klee

Thank you Madam President. On the Motion to Defer to sending it to a committee, | oppose that. | think that we can all
speak here to it relative to why this is being done. The question | think that was asked before, | think we got letters as to
why that’s happening. | think that this is just to change the way public comment is happening here. It’s not cutting off any
of the other so | see no need for it to go to another committee. | think we should make a decision and | appreciate you
allowing us to have this discussion and so on. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Any other discussion on the Motion to refer to committee? Seeing none.

MOTION FAILED

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN TO AMEND TO TERMINATE THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO ZOOM MEETINGS BUT
IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCS AS WARRANTED TO BE ALLOWED TO BE USED BY MEMERS OF THE BOARD OF
ALDERMEN OR BY DIVISIONS DIRECTORS GIVING TESTIMONY TO THE BENEFIT TO THE BOARD OF
ALDERMEN AND TO ALLOW THAT EXCEPTION

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you Madam President. | think in hearing what some of the concerns are, this seems to be a good compromise.
This will allow this. | hope maybe at a future date that maybe we could come up with take this technology and tame it a bit
to use it to fit within our decorum. As it sits right now, it’s dangerous. It is dangerous.

| agree with Alderman Moran. | think we all hold ourselves to a high standard as being elected. The term “aldermen”
means city elders. Somebody who is supposed to be bar represented from government. So this will allow to have the
representation for the Board to have access to make the proper decision if members cannot be present. Maybe we can
keep a leather eye in the future if we can get better things that we could probably bring it up for further discussion. So
thank you Madam President.

Alderman Clemons

| had told you Madam Chair that | would be supportive of such a motion in the past and | made that a public comment as
well. Having heard from the public and having heard from folks, | don’t know where | stand on it. Having had my own...

President Wilshire

Alderman Clemons can we keep the comments to the motion to amend?

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Alderman Clemons

Well the motion is to amend yes. So in regards to that amendment, we’re still eliminating Zoom for public comment,
correct in that motion?

President Wilshire

In that motion.

Steve Bolton, Corporate Counsel

You’re just changing the motion.

President Wilshire

Okay. We're just changing the motion.

Steve Bolton, Corporate Counsel

If this passes, all you’ve done is amend the main motion. You still have to vote on it. You still have to debate the motion.

Alderman Clemons

So I’m going to defer my comment, again, until we get to the main crux of the conversation.

Alderwoman Kelly

I'll defer as well.
Alderman Dowd
I'll defer to we’re back on the main motion.

President Wilshire

Okay, the motion is to amend. No further discussion on that motion?
Alderman Jette
Could you tell us how the motion is to amend it how?

President Wilshire

Mr. Clerk could you please repeat the motion.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN TO AMEND TO TERMINATE THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO ZOOM MEETINGS BUT
IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCS AS WARRANTED TO BE ALLOWED TO BE USED BY MEMERS OF THE BOARD OF
ALDERMEN OR BY DIVISIONS DIRECTORS GIVING TESTIMONY TO THE BENEFIT TO THE BOARD OF
ALDERMEN AND TO ALLOW THAT EXCEPTION

MOTION CARRIED

President Wilshire

Alderman Clemons back to the main motion as amended.

Alderman Clemons

Thank you. | don’t know how I’m going to vote. | thought | did but I’ve had some introspective on this both personal and —
in my own profession, I’m dealing with such difficulties right now. What | believe is that we should be moving forward with
technology like Zoom, particularly in my own industry. | think the need of having to be physically present has shown to be
archaic quite frankly. But that being said, | do have the concerns and | share the concerns that were raised by several of

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my colleagues that it’s being abused by some members of the public and that the ability for us to create laws or rules
surrounding what can and can’t be said are and rightfully so in some cases restricted by the First Amendment and | agree
with that interpretation.

So where | am struggling with this is how do we balance giving access to the public in a way that is constructive where
they can come to us and speak to us constructively either for or against something or whatever their opinion may be and
do it in a way where they might not be able to get to this chamber for whatever reason. | feel like having that ability | think
is a good in general a good thing. | think we have two pieces of legislation this evening — one of which I’m a sponsor of
that might help us with that in the future that | think will likely get broad support from this Board. | think that there are other
things that can potentially be done technologically wise with Zoom that we haven't explored. | Know that there is the
ability to have it where you can mute almost everyone except for certain people. That technology exists. | don’t know if
we have to pay for it. | don’t know if that would be more of another cost but it’s out there.

| don’t know. | don’t know if we’ve explored it enough to just shut it off. | don’t know. I’m really struggling with it because |
err on the side of being with the public’s ability to access our Board. | think what | had initially said was out of anger for
what had happened at that Finance Committee by a certain member of the public. We can’t live our lives based on the
bad actions of certain people. | don’t Know where I’m going to vote on this tonight and those are my struggles.

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you, President Wiltshire. | want to start by thanking you for bringing this forward. | think there have been multiple
issues with Zoom, especially in the recent months and | think it was good for us to talk about it as a Board. I've been
taking notes as we've been talking and the pieces of this from a problem standpoint that I'm concerned about our
decorum. We are all on the same page in terms of how we as a body works, but the decorum has definitely eroded and |
think that that needs to be addressed, especially when it comes to public comment.

The other concern that I've heard from others that I'm also concerned about is the funding and that that $11,000 is just
what they're doing now and that moderating a public forum is very different than moderating a group of people who have,
you know, know how to use Zoom and we are employees of the city. So | think that that is something that we need to talk
about. | think that the public forum is and more access is important. But there are technological things that need to
happen in order for that to be a safe environment for everybody.

| don't buy the tech issues. | agree with some of the things that have been said here. There's a ton of bells and whistles
with Zoom. There's a whole page that you can - I've been on with Congressman and we've made it so that people can,
you know, talk when we want them to talk and they're muted when not. So there are ways around this. I'm not an expert
so | think | would love some more information on how we fix that. Where | struggle and right now is that | think that part of
this is values and we've talked about this as a country for a long time. You know work has changed. It's not a butts and
seats anymore. People are working remotely from California to New Hampshire. COVID really did change the culture in
terms of how we work and being physically present isn't this like thing to a few says the only way that you can do the work
that you need to do. | know that | personally had to Zoom in multiple times and part of that was because | wanted to
protect everyone in this horseshoe. My son was unable to be vaccinated until one month ago. So | think through COVID
we've learned a lot about people's risk levels and how they feel in terms of, you know, their ability to want to come out,
whether they want to wear a mask, or not wear a mask. | think that your own risk level and the public’s risk level might be
different. | never would want someone to not be able to come because they're afraid.

| also agree with the comment that the fall could be very different. | don't think COVID is done with us as much as we
want to be done with it. So | would really hate to be in a position where we cut this off and then people feel like they can't
access, or they might want to come but they have COVID, or they're a high risk person who might be very concerned
about the levels at the time. So | really am struggling with this as well and a lot of people have said that. | think that there
are problems to fix but right now | don't feel comfortable just cutting it off.

Alderman Dowd

Speaking of the technical issues, there are a few things that concern me greatly. One is my FCC rule - anything televised
has a delay so that anything inappropriate can be cut out before it gets aired. Our Zoom is open to anybody even kids
and anything said, there's no delay, there's no cut, they hear everything that is said on Zoom. Lately we've had a number
of instances where things that have been said on Zoom that people shouldn't hear. We don't have a way to fix that right
now with any kind of delay. | use Zoom a lot and | don't know of any way to do it. So that bothers me.

The other thing that bothers me is that if we have an issue with Zoom, we can't have a meeting. Several times the
meetings have been delayed or almost canceled because we have an issue with Zoom. That's taking things away from

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local government and to me, that's not right. We should be able to perform our duties. Relative to the telephone calls
before we had Zoom for Aldermen, we had an agenda one night where we had something that was important to vote on
and | called in from Lucerne, Switzerland, at three o'clock in the morning to vote and it worked just fine. If you can do it
from overseas, you can certainly do it locally here in the United States.

So again if we're going along in a meeting and someone happens to Zoom, we have to stop the meeting and schedule
another night out perhaps or wait until we find somebody that can fix it. That's an issue. That's a big issue and we don't
have a solution for it and I'm not even sure we could solve that in any kind of committee meeting or any other meeting. If
IT comes up with a much better can of worms, then maybe we can bring it back but right now we have issues.

The other thing is that Aldermen had to run the Zoom meetings. When you're sitting up there, and to me, you're not
representing your Ward or the city when you can't focus on the meeting you're focusing on running a TV screen. That's
not good and that's not productive to city business. So let's look at what's best for city business. | have no problem with
public input. We read the letters that we get that Donna forwards to us. We read emails and by the way if you have
access to Zoom, you have access to email and you can write much more detail and an email to us than you can in three
minutes on Zoom. Yes | agree with some of the things that are in the legislation that's coming forward trying to legislate
people using decorum but you can't legislate that much as | would support the legislation. There's no penalties for
anybody breaking that. Again anything that’s said online, on Zoom, goes out to everybody that's on Zoom.

In businesses, you have a select group of people that have been invited to that meeting. In our case, it's open anybody in
the world that wants to get on that meeting. It's a much different scenario than in a private business. We can easily get
letters and emails and we do all the time and that gets the same point across other than somebody wanting to be seen on
TV. So to me, | support having people being able to support us. For years, and years, and years they came here. We've
had many nights in the past where we've had a full audience. Our agendas are posted way in advance. | know there's no
local telegraph anymore but maybe we could do something to publicize what's on the agendas more comprehensively and
get it to people. | know that Alderman Klee puts out a newsletter every week. Trust me, there's nothing that we're going
to do that she doesn't cover in her newsletter. In fact, | have more emails from my constituents. | just copy it and send it
out to them. That's away. There are other ways that we can solve that problem but right now Zoom is not working the
way we think its working.

Unless there's some way that we can delay - like when something happens on Zoom, when it goes out to the TV audience
it's delayed. If you've ever watched the TV thing, it's delayed from real life. It's confusing if you're on the phone or on TV
because it's different. Again, Zoom can't do that. Whatever said is aired by anybody listening. So to me that's a problem
with FCC regulations. | don’t know if anybody's ever looked into that from Legal but | think that's a problem. The words
and things that are being talked about by Alderman Clemons, those things shouldn't go out on the air, including the
internet. We have to do something about it.

Now if we want to cancel it so Aldermen can't use it and our Division Directors can't use it, I'm okay with that. If we want
to give it as the amendment says the authority for the President to say okay if there's a Division Director that wants to
present something and they’re unable to come in, we can allow it. But | think that for the safety of the people listening and
for the safety of this Board to be able to meet and other boards, | think that Zoom was put in place because we had to.
City Hall was closed. We couldn't have aldermanic meetings without Zoom. Not the case anymore so I'm gonna vote to
support the motion to do away with Zoom.

President Wilshire

Anyone else?

Alderman Thibeault

Thank you Madam President. | have a few things. I'm going to try not to repeat what people have said because | know
it's getting long on this issue. | do want to answer Alderman Jette’s question about why in the world and in the world for
me too the technology works great and there's never these issues. It's money. It's because these companies - | worked
for Eversource. Well they pay to make sure the technology's perfect and that somebody's running it. They have a big IT
department because if that doesn't work, the business can't work. So we don't have the kind of money to do that type of
thing.

So $11,000. It's going to be more just like Alderwoman Kelly said and some of the others have said. It's going to cost
more than that to do it. The right way to make everything work the way that would be the safest, it would cost more
money. | think, you know, I'm all for technology but | hate to say it but somehow City Hall sometimes is a little bit behind
on technology. If we can't spend the money to upgrade all of that, then | don't think we should be using it.

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There's a misconception out there that we're not listening to our constituents or the people of Nashua. There’s 90,000
people, maybe 70,000 plus adults on Zoom. We may get five or six people commenting at a meeting if that. That doesn't
mean we're not listening to the people in the city. | listen to my constituents all the time. | get emails, | get phone calls, |
send a weekly newsletter out as well. Sometimes | reach out to them more than once if something big comes up. | tell
them how the meetings have gone like which way they went, what meetings are coming up, what things are important on
the docket that they should know about. It doesn't matter what party, if any, that they belong to. It doesn't matter if they
vote. If they send me an email and they want my information, | will give it to them every week.

Now do | respond to Mr. Gouthro’s email? Again to Alderman Klee’s point, we can't respond to every email. Maybe
Aldermen-at-Large can but | got a constituency that | have to respond to and they come first. It doesn't mean I'm not
thinking about the city. It doesn't mean | don't vote for the city | do but when I'm going through those emails, constituency
comes first. Three of the four Aldermen that responded were for Mr. Gouthro’s points. One of them send us a letter with
a paragraph there was exactly the paragraph that Mr. Gouthro wrote almost word for word. So obviously, they're going to
respond to him. | wasn't gonna go back and forth with him on this issue because what ends up happening anytime I'm
debating an issue friendly with someone, it shows up on Facebook and it gets twisted. So what's the point of doing that,
right? Come here and talk to us and we'll listen.

Before COVID, there was no Zoom issue. People came in. Alderman Klee said it and I'm repeating this one because I've
been to those meetings. Board of Education packs that room in when there's an issue that people care about. They do.
I've been there. It's been standing room only. So to say that nobody goes to those and Zoom would be better, | don't
think that's the case.

As far as whether or not we let the Aldermen use it or city officials, | can go either way on that. I'm here for every single
meeting that I'm supposed to be. | have not Zoomed into one that | wasn't supposed to be Zoomed in for. The ones |
Zoom in for are the committee meetings I'm not part of in case | want to say something but I'm listening because I'm trying
to still learn everything. One of the things that was said in one of those emails that we're taking away people's
constitutional right for free speech. That is absolutely not the case. They can come and speak. They can send an email.
They can send an email to me. They can send an email to all of us. That's free speech. Do we not have free speech
before COVID? I don’t know. | think it’s gone too far now.

The people that usually talk are the ones screaming at us. Some of the people on Zoom don't even put their names.
They put Mayor's a jerk. That's their name - Mayor's a jerk. | don't find that funny. | find that offensive to the city - not the
city but the people out there in the city, the constituents that actually do want to Zoom in and want to debate the issues
with us telling us how they really feel not to call somebody a “lord”. Some of you guys support these people calling “lord”
or we're saying something against the Mayor and that's just not appropriate. We're using the “c” word. It wasn't just using
it. It was basically calling Mayor Donchess and Attorney Bolton that word. You can play back the tape. | know
someone's probably gonna say that wasn't true. Play back the tape. It was there. So | find it hard for the people who
really want to participate in this government of the city that we were put and by the way, | get paid by Eversource. That's
my salary. | get a stipend from the city and it's very small. So before anybody says they pay my salary, that's a resource.
| got elected by the voters of my Ward to support them and that's what I'm doing. When we have people that just want to
play games, and fool around, and swear, and call people names, that's not appropriate. It’s not appropriate on Zoom. It’s
not appropriate in the chamber. If you want to state your issue of why we're doing something that either you like, or you
don't like, speak, send an email. | respond more to things that aren’t nasty. Okay. There's no reason for me to speak to
someone that's nasty because they're not going to speak nice back. They're just not. So just be nice. | try to be nice to
people. | don't know why they can't be nice back but | will listen to anybody that has an opposing view.

No one's looking | heard we're looking to take away debate. No, we're not. We're having a debate right now. Not all of us
are on the same side. You've heard someone one side, someone on the other, and some in the middle. That's debate.
But what we've heard out there, | think made some people change their minds a little bit or at least make them think about
it. It made me think about it more towards the way I'm thinking now, which is I'm going to vote to get rid of Zoom.

Alderwoman Timmons

Thank you, Madam President. | listened to everybody around the table but it's kind of personal with me. | listen to my
constituents as well and a lot of them do not come on Zoom. They're out there in the community beyond that. So | hear
what they have to say. They're not on Zoom but what they do say when they hear from other people is a lot of
misinformation and the misinformation actually come from people that make inaccurate comments on Zoom. The way
that they talk to the Mayor, they don't have respect for the Mayor. They don't have respect for us in general and not kind.
So I'm gonna support this because | think it's only the right thing to do. So that's my comment. | listened to everything
everyone else said in here and | agree with most of you but | do know that my constituents, the silent majority and there's
thousands of them. It's not five, thousands of them, that's why | keep getting elected. They do not like the tone these

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people use on Zoom. A lot of them are also seniors. They don't have Zoom. They don't even want to know about Zoom.
What they tell me is could you fix my phone? | want to be able to call my daughter. How do you do this? How do you do
that? Can you take a picture? Other than that, that's the older population in my group. They’re just not on Zoom. I'ma
baby boomer and we’re just not that savvy. A lot of us are but most of us are not. But my constituents, which the city, a
lot of are not on Zoom so I'm gonna support this legislation.

President Wilshire

Thank you.

Alderman Caron

Thank you. As the new kid on the block, | just want to say that | think six months ago | said we should stop Zoom
because it was time to get people back into the room so that we can see them, listen to them. | think we need even more
so because as we talk about the comments that are made, | have been listening for the last six months on - | watch it on
TV - and when | hear some of these comments and in the way people are very nasty and rude, that's sad because we
can't shut them off. Here at least we can stop them from talking, escort them out of the building. | don't care. | support
eliminating Zoom. If we want to take it up and talk about it as Alderman Jette said, how can we fix it? How can we get IT
to figure out things that we can do as Alderman Dowd said? Delete people, take them off, don't allow them back on if they
continue with their rantings and ravings.

But | think we need to get people here. We're not taking the right of public comment before or after a meeting. | watched
Board of Ed and you're right, it's a lot of people that go there. If you have big cities like Manchester and Concord and
those people that do not do Zoom, then we're not taking away anybody's rights. It was there. It was a need for the last
two years but it's not a need now. | think we need to eliminate it and then if we want to have a discussion in one of the
committees, how can we fix it and what's the cost as Alderman Thibeault said, then we can have another discussion and
look how to do it. | know for myself and Alderman Dowd came in that the Aldermen that were sitting in these seats both
got ill and they will give him permission to make phone calls. | don't have a problem with that. | think that should be on a
case by case basis. So | will be voting to eliminate this. Thank you.

Alderman Dowd
Would you ask Corporation Counsel since there's only 13 members present does seven votes carry?

Steve Bolton, Corporate Counsel

Yes.
Alderman Dowd
Thank you.

Alderman Moran

Point of order. If the Board's will is to support this would it go intersect at tonight's meeting? Meaning tonight's public
comment at the end? Would that only be allowed for the people in the in the room. Maybe through you to Corporation
Counsel.

President Wilshire

| mean if it passes, we're going to finish the evening.

Alderman Sullivan

Thank you, Madam President. Could you please just clarify the motion so | understand if | vote yes then what I’m voting
for and if | vote no, then what I’m voting for.

Alderwoman Kelly

| would like to request a roll call vote.

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Alderman Thibeault

| just wanted to say one more thing about the Planning Board meeting that was shut down the other day for about 20
minutes. Part of the reason - this is to Alderman Jette too - some of it was on the city side but some of it was the guy that
was trying to speak for his client, he was having issues too from his end. So that's not controllable from our end and |
think at a point where you need that information if you're using Zoom you shut down the meeting and may not come back.
Otherwise if he's there, you can continue with the meeting. So it's not just what we can control. It sometimes what we
can’t control on somebody even when they're trying to do something good as provide for their client and they can't speak
so.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN TO APPROVE TERMINATING THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO ZOOM BUT IN
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCS AS WARRANTED TO BE ALLOWED TO BE USED BY MEMERS OF THE BOARD OF
ALDERMEN OR BY DIVISIONS DIRECTORS GIVING TESTIMONY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD OF
ALDERMEN AND TO ALLOW THAT EXCEPTION, BY ROLL CALL

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderman Moran, Alderman Lopez,
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron, Alderman Thibeault, Alderwoman Timmons,
Alderman Wilshire 9
Nay: Alderman Sullivan, Alderman Jette, Alderman Clemons, Alderwoman Kelly 4
MOTION CARRIED
PETITIONS
Petition for Rezoning - Gateway Hills off Research Drive (A-798, A-1010, A-1011, A-1008, A-1021)

MOTION BY ALDERMAN THIBEAULT TO INDEFINTELY POSTPONE THE PETITION FOR REZONING - GATEWAY
HILLS OFF RESEARCH DRIVE (A-798, A-1010, A-1011, A-1008, A-1021)

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Thibeault

Thank you, Madam President. So this was something that Flatley had asked to rezone. It came to the Planning and
Economic Development Committee. We had tabled it and while it was being tabled, they withdrew their proposal for it.
So we decided to continue to table it and then eventually what we ended up doing was voting on it to where it's coming
here now to indefinitely postpone. So that's where we're at.

MOTION CARRIED

NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS - None

REPORTS OF COMMITTEE

Budget Review Committee.............cc cece 05/23/2022, 05/25/2022, 05/31/2022, 06/02/2022, 07/25/2022

There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the reports of the May 23, May 25, May 31, June 2, and July 25,
2022 Budget Review Committee be accepted and placed on file.

Committee on Infrastructure........ 000.00 c eee e eee eee eee cee eee eae va nessa seateeaeeseteeaneas 07/27/2022

There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the report of the June 27, 2022 Committee on Infrastructure be
accepted and placed on file.

Finance Committee... eccentric eter eter enee 05/18/2022, 06/01/2022, 08/03/2022