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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 12/7/2021 - P12

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private piece of property that a private owner is acting upon and people who believe that we are taking something
away from Greeley Park | think are misguided. Nothing in Greeley Park is changing with respect to the approximately
100 acres that exists there now. We had a recent Master Plan completed and that Master Plan did not identify
expanding Greeley Park at all. In fact, it identified setting up other parks in other parts of Nashua that don't have
parks available.

| walk Greeley Park a good bit and I'm very familiar with the fence area that is the Barker's property. | do not believe
that a development in that area is going to diminish the park or that somehow we have an obligation to scoop up those
13 acres to make them a park more complete. It's almost 100 acre park right now and we have other parts of the city
that don't have them. The housing study, which | read completely, did show approximately 5,000 houses that we are
short and we continue to spend money. | don't know how many people are going to speak up against spending $21
million tonight but we are a spending city and we're doing a lot of spending and somebody's got to pay the bills and
keep the lights on. When you think that the tax revenue raised by that property is insignificant, | think you're wrong. |
also think there's an absolute market for those houses to sell at $700,000. I'm pretty certain a developer would not
propose something that realistically would not sell. | think we have an obligation to let the process work the way the
process should work and everyone's opinions about what is right and wrong should be vetted through the Planning
Board and the Zoning Board if necessary. They're the entities that will be certain that the codes in the ordinances are
followed and that the property is within the right to develop itself the way it can be developed. | think it's really
important that we let that process go.

So | am not in favor of bonding this money. We have a lot of other needs and that is important housing. The unit

Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds.
Laurie Ortolano

The development down by Cherrywood was opposed by people and you're correct, the developer changed from 160
luxury units to 44 townhomes down there with a lot of asphalt space. I'm not certain the residents are going to be that
happy with that either. But this development needs to happen because we continue to spend, and we have a need for
the housing, and the housing report in the Master Plan full support development. Thank you time.

John Cathey

Can you hear me?
Chairman Dowd

Yes.

John Cathey

John Cathey, 32 Hartwell Brook Drive. | am not in favor of Resolution 21-202 for several reasons. The biggest
reason | feel passage of this resolution is a bad idea is the overall cost of the project. When we consider interest on
the debt and the lost tax revenue over the life of the bond, this product doesn't cost $2.5 million, it costs $15 million or
more over 20 years. Even if we remove the future projected revenue, it's still $3.1 million with interest. How can we
the citizens be asked to support this resolution when our Aldermen and our Mayor have not expressed to us how this
will be paid for? Currently, the resolution calls for more debt on top of the $21 million debt which will probably be
approved for the Riverwalk, on top of $20 million debt for the PAC which now puts us over $100 million a day.

Secondly, it strikes me as interesting that we have another issue or resolution being brought to the public and we the
citizens are being asked to approve or disapprove a resolution when we don't have enough information yet. It has not
gone through the proper Planning Board and other committees for recommendations and any other issues that may
arise.

Thirdly although it was stated by one of the Aldermen that they cannot interfere with the process, some have alluded
to figure out a way to interfere and or stop this. | would strongly object to any attempt to interfere or to discuss
interfering with the purchase and sale of this land as it creates a poor legal precedent for how Nashua does things
with businesses and resident’s private property. In closing, passing this resolution is extremely unproven. Currently
without proof of a plan to show us the money used will not affect the taxpayers, it's an added expenditure we cannot

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afford. We need more information about the source of money being used to purchase this land. Hopefully that
doesn't affect taxes and we have to wait for this resolution to go through the appropriate committees which it has yet
to do. The Master Plan calls for plenty of green space. This is not the only green space available. Emotional appeals
are understandable for making decisions based on emotion are ill advised. This is not to say that having more green
space for this green space is bad, however the expense incurred, and the speedy process on this issue, and the lack
of clear plan that definitely show our taxes will not be affected means this resolution must be rejected until these
issues are solved. Thank you.

Alex Comeau

Yes, thank you. My name is Alex Comeau. | live at 4 Lewis Street. | wanted (inaudible) and protecting our park. To
be very clear, | love Greeley Park. But there's an important distinction to make here however. This parcel of land is
currently undeveloped as park land. It is not an act part of Greeley Park. Reading testimony on social media in both
language and the online petition that’s been circulated that we want to believe that an evil corporation consulting the
board of Massachusetts wants to invade Nashua and build a skyscraper on top one of our softball games. This is
simply not the case. A developer wants to make good use of a piece of property that is not currently being used not to
build another gas station, Dunkin Donuts, or credit union but to build housing. Something Nashua desperately needs
more of. Concern has been raised that adding additional houses will be just traffic in this quiet neighborhood. At the
same time, it was simultaneously debating congestion and traffic on Main Street for another three years.

Development of this property would not have a negative impact on existing services and amenities provided by
Greeley Park. New housing numbers would not result in the loss of Greeley Park’s horseshoe pits or softball fields.
New housing will not result in the reduction of picnic areas and the demolition of the sensory garden. New housing
will not result in the removal of the trail between Manchester Street and Concord Street. All of these wonderful parts
of Greeley Park will still remain. | myself spend a lot of time at Mine Falls using the trails for walking and biking. I've
hosted many of my children's birthday parties in Greeley’s picnic areas and I'm an avid softball player with frequent
use of the field. If there was any chance this development would negatively impact the use of the park, | will be the
first to stand against it but the fact is, that is not the case. If the city proceeds in purchasing this property, we would
have to account for the costs associated with the development and maintenance of part of the city park. The city
would additionally lose the potential tax revenue associated with housing proposed to this area. The citizens of
Nashua are already stretched too thin. You can't expect the city to step in and buy every piece of property that the
developer wants to build on it just because somebody doesn't want condos built at the end of their street.

| understand the Chairman's information that it would not be up to this board to approve this development but this is a
(inaudible) to the Planning Board. But that some petitioners want this bond approved just to prove to the developer
that we are interested. Those two things are tightly woven together. It would be disingenuous of us to approve this
bond to show the seller that we're serious about buying the property without having a serious discussion and approval
to do so. To approve this bond just to hold up this private sale of private property would be wrong. Thank you.
Chairman Dowd

Okay. Anyone else want to give testimony in opposition.

Laura Colquhoun

Yes. Laura Colquhoun, 30 Greenwood Drive. | just find it very funny that the city all of a sudden wants to buy these
13 acres when they put up for sale when in fact, they knew that the owner of this property was paying full property
taxes and never once went to them and said maybe you want to do current use, which is like forest or something else.
This 13 acres is not going to affect Greeley at all. As everybody has said before, Nashua needs affordable housing
and what the developer has done is a very nice plan and | think it should go through. | give credit to the family, the
property owner, because they've been very upfront and has paid their taxes for many, many years. If they want to sell
their land to a developer, | say go for it. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd
Anyone else who would like to speak in opposition to this legislation? Seeing none. I'll now take testimony in favor of
this. If anybody wants to rebut something that was said in opposition, please don't repeat anything was said before

but if you want to say something to counter what was just said in opposition, you may come up one at a time.

Testimony in Favor

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Denise Mucillo

Denise Mucillo, Ward 8, 6 Midhurst. | would like to rebut to Miss Colquhoun and somebody else said that it's not
going to affect the park. Do you know when the condominiums are going to be built, the townhomes are going to be
built. They're going to moving pesticides because they don't want nice hair. They don't want rodents and so forth.
They're going to be using all kinds of landscaping chemicals that are going to run off into the park. That is going to
affect Greeley Park. If you think $600,000 housing is affordable, you need to talk to 90% of the middle class working
people in this city because | assure you $600,000 housing is not affordable.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else wants to speak in favor?

Steve D.

I’m back. It is what it is. | agree with the $600,000 but...
Chairman Dowd

Did you state your name and address for the record again.
Steve D.

Stevie D., 31 Columbia Avenue and I'm not the wife of King Dixon. She's already looking. What they said was good
but they don't live here. They don't live on the traffic that comes by the school. They don’t see that and now we're
going to put well so 43 houses with two cars each. Do the math - more cars coming down there. | don’t understand
what they’re saying. Their wards don't want to pay for this. It's not the case. It's the footprint - 13 acres, 13 houses.
That would be the rent that would make their house. Seriously I'll go back to my and I'll stop - | got 30 seconds. We
have a footprint in the north end. We have that football game that we play every year or for the last couple of years.
We have the (inaudible) - let's just keep it and I'm not a guest. | mean, | guess you know you're Selling what
(inaudible) but let's just keep the footprint of a north end with all due respect. I’m done.

Chairman Dowd
Thank you. Anyone else wants to speak in favor? Rebut anything that was...
Robert Lodi

Thank you. Robert Lodi, 12 Bartlett Avenue. | want to congratulate future Alderman Cathey but | think | need to
address some of the mistakes he made. He spoke with emotion and he liked to have facts. He said $21 million is the
repayment on $2.5 million. The assessment is $2.5 million with interest. It's $3.1 million. The debt payment is
$157,812 a year. The city budget for the fiscal year was $425 million. This is .0036% of the budget. The average
median income in the City of Nashua was $37,000. .0037% of that is $13.30. I'll say someone who's making $37,000
a year might be willing to spend $1 a month to keep this park.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else that wants to speak in favor?

Penny Ferreira

I'm wrestling with my mask. Hi. Thank you for letting me speak again. Penny Ferreira, 3 Birchwood. Again, | keep
referring to the Master Plan that is basically what my understanding is a recommendation and a guideline for what
should happen. I'm going to read you this: A key assumption of built out scenarios is that all developable land will be
developed to its maximum potential. The builder has shown just in his preliminary sketch that he plans to build out to
the max. Build out studies thus present the worst case scenario for the municipality point of view and since most of
the housing development results in a negative cash flow for the municipality, and the reason is that no matter what the
tax base is you're going to incur more costs for schools, fire, police, and waste disposal generated from a
development. So you have to make wise choices. Is it really worth 43 houses to get the tax income when it's really
going to cost the city more when you can provide, again going back to your constituents, and asking them are they

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willing to pay for this bond. You have a drop in a bucket here of the people that wanted to come tonight or could come
tonight.

| am going to be at every Planning Board. I've already told Matt Sullivan I'm going to be his best friend. I'm going to
call him every week and get educated on what the Planning Board regs are. I'm going to use every tool in my
wheelhouse to fight this. The family has every right to sell the land but it abuts a community - a huge community
property. | am asking, and | don't even know if we can get a valid vote tonight. Are there 10 people? Do we have to
ten or just a majority for the bond?

Chairman Dowd

Just - I'll answer that question. We have a public hearing. After the public hearing, we're going to adjourn for a few
minutes and the Budget Committee will then address each one of these bonds and take action. And whatever action
is taken by the Budget Committee, it goes to the full Board of Aldermen and then the full Board of Aldermen will have
to take any final action.

Penny Ferreira

So let me say this with my mother being a realtor, | learned a lot riding around in cars on weekends with her and
watching her do deals. Yes, the purchase and sales has been signed but this builder is going to have to build in
stages. He's not going to go to closing until a certain point. Anything can happen between the purchase and sales
and closing and there are alternatives. The kids can get what they want...

Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds.

Penny Ferreira

...and not sell to the city because there are other options. The city can be the hero and help negotiate so the people
that want to keep this park intact and add to it - also in here, you're supposed to add more trails by the way. |
encourage you to read this. Then the builder and the listing agent can get what they want without any money having
to be wasted on putting this property in - this development in. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else who wants to speak in favor? Dan Richardson.
Dan Richardson

Yes can you hear me?

Chairman Dowd

Yes, go ahead.

Dan Richardson

So the Board of Aldermen have a responsibility for spending money in the public interest for the greater good of the
city, for the environment of the citizens, and there's been a lot of wasteful spending that this Board of Alderman has
done. This expenditure is a community good. This is money that it would be well spent. It's necessary to provision
legally that you'll have the authority to bond this money. It does not say that you will spend all of the money. It just
says that you're provisioning enough in the event that you have to cover expenses of acquisition, paying for land,
paying for perhaps even the fees of a realtor, and any other expenses perhaps some planning expenses of the
developer in the event of an acquisition or change of plan. So please, please do pass this resolution and give the
authorization to borrow the money for the acquisition.

The other thing I'd like to say is I'd like to reinforce what Mr. Dickinson said about traffic in that area. We have a very
good school — Nashua Catholic Junior High School there and there is a tremendous amount of traffic. My children
went there. It is a great school. People know it's a great school and they send their children there and it's doing very
well. There's a lot of traffic. Parents drop their children off. They pick their children up and you've got to consider that

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in that area also. So | know that you can't do anything about these Planning Board issues but please provision the
authority to borrow the money. Thank you very much.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else in favor?

Tracy Hollis

Thank you very much. My name is Tracy Hollis. | live at 11 Bartlett. 15 Bartlett is the Barker property. We are a
direct abutter to the Barker property. We've known the Barkers for many, many years. My husband and Alan Barker
and Doug Barker have served on the Edgewood Cemetery board for upwards of 30 years. When this all came to
fruition, we were actually kind of surprised because there have been people have been speaking about it was public
knowledge that the property was for sale. Not so much. It kind of happened in the quiet of night. | am concerned for
the park. I'm concerned for the wildlife of the park. This year, the corner of our property we had a bobcat in our
backyard that our dog flushed out of the woods. Not suggesting that | want bobcats in my yard but that is the kind of
wildlife that we have.

We also have Nashua Catholic which is at 6 Bartlett. They have 209 students in their school right now. 128 kids are
drivers - well they're not drivers, their parents drive them. 102 of those children do not live in Nashua so they have to
be driven to school. | took a video last Thursday of the parents picking their children up from school. It went up our
street — Bartlett, down Wellington, down Columbia. They have walkers that go out the back side of the school. The
impact of the 44-42 plus homes - my husband who you probably all know is Morgan Hollis - has estimated by studies
that it's for it could be upwards of 480 cars a day that are impacted in our general neighborhood. We have no lights.
The street condition is horrible. We have no sidewalks and now they want to introduce 44 homes.

Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds.

Tracy Hollis

| have a bit of concern. I've not met Lloyd. My husband has. Very nice property. The homes are beautiful. They are
not price worthy for the lower income housing issues that we have in the City of Nashua. We're talking $700,000 to
$900,000 homes. That's not what people can afford the general population but the traffic for us is a real concern. So
that's alll have to say. Thank you for your time.

Chairman Dowd

| assume that was an opposition not in favor. In favor? All right. All right.

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

In favor of the resolution.
Chairman Dowd
Okay, again in favor of the resolution.

Paul Metzger

Again, Paul Metzger, 25 Columbia Ave., Ward 3. We've heard about 20 people or so talk in favor this tonight. More in
the galley here in favor that have not spoken. We heard five people in opposition to it. I'll point out some of the
numbers from the online petition since it was kind of quick going through it last time. We have 1,248 Nashua residents
in favor of this. Of that, 872 of those are outside of Ward 3. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else in favor?

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Jerry Spier

Jerry Spier, 9 Columbia. All right, | think I’m good. We talked about traffic. | don't know - nobody's mentioned the fact
that the Nashua Catholic School that's on Columbia, the girls track team practices on Columbia Ave. There's a boys
team that practices on Bartlett - right on the street because they don't have any other place to play or do their sports
and various other relay races and things that | see them doing every single day in the spring and in the fall. With
another 80 some odd cars coming through there, | know Nashua - the Catholic school has said they don't want to be
involved. But | think maybe they have to start thinking about what it's going to do to their various track teams and all the
rest of the stuff that those kids are used to playing on. Maybe the idea of expanding Greeley Park so that they can play
over there might be something useful to them and that they shouldn't stay out of this discussion that maybe they need to
be part of it. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd
Anyone else in favor that has something to rebut that was brought out.
Tim Sennott

Hello again. Tim Sennott, 62 Underhill Street, Ward 7. It feels like a distraction to me to hear speakers in opposition
speak down against this because the city is in desperate need of affordable housing. That's factual. The city does
require more affordable housing. This isn't it. Affordable housing is the type of housing they build in my
neighborhood. We recently built the Marshall Street apartments over on the old Beebe Rubber plot. We're currently
working on the Henry Hanger site to build more housing over there. You'll never hear me up here opposing it. | don't
think that if affordable housing were on the ledger here that you'd hear the people behind me speaking against it. |
don't think anybody here is opposed to new neighbors. They're opposed to the impact on their neighborhood.
They're opposed to the impact on the park.

To sit here and say that this would not have an effect on the park is also factually untrue. You could probably guess
just by listening to me that | don't need this microphone in front of me. My son is six years old and | regret to say that
he got his voice from me. At the risk of perhaps alienating myself from some of the folks behind me, I'll draw your
attention back to when the proposed Legacy Playground was proposed for Greely Park. It was met with vast
opposition because of the impact it would have on the neighborhood due to noise and use. You're going to reduce
the buffer between the neighborhood and the park even greater on the eastern side of the park and you're going to
have children like my son going down the slide screaming at my decibel level. Now you're going to have a new
impact on the park because you're going to have neighbors opposed to the parks eminent use.

This is going to drastically affect Greeley Park if this plot is developed. Like an earlier speaker said, there may not be
much we can affect here tonight. | would still implore this Board to approve the bond, to have the money ready, and
prepared should the opportunity come to purchase this tract of land. Otherwise, | look forward to seeing as many of
you at the Planning Board meetings. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd
Anyone else in favor? Seeing you've already spoken. I'm sorry, you can’t speak again. Anyone in opposition?
Laurie Ortolano

Hi, good evening. Laurie Orlando, 41. Berkeley Street. Just to clarify a few things. | think the concerns that the
neighbors have with traffic are very valid but they're misplaced being addressed here with the Board of Aldermen or at
a hearing. Those concerns have to be addressed with the Planning Board using the process that's available for an
existing developer to bring their plans and have them vetted. | think everyone does need to go forward to the
Planning Board and participate in those meetings and express their concerns.

I'm very concerned when | hear people talk about affordable housing because | attended the meeting at the church on
a Sunday evening and it was pushed very heavily by Alderwoman Klee that we make this an affordable housing issue.
| was very opposed to that because the developer never pitched this as an affordable housing development. It was
very clear when he said these properties would sell between $650,000 and $750,000 that it was not affordable
housing. The housing study does not talk about putting only affordable housing in. It talks about putting in housing
across all sectors. So this is definitely high end housing more exclusive. Now if the gentlemen who just spoke really
believes that if we went to affordable housing in your neighborhood and reduced it to 23 units of affordable housing,
you'd accept that? Well, then maybe that's what you can get. But | think it's unrealistic to pitch that it should be

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divided up into 13 lots of 13 acres. That's not our call and the concept of one acre lots for homes in Nashua is really
over based on the housing density we need to accommodate the growth of the city. | love my neighbor, Dan, and |
think he's a terrific neighbor and he's on the other side of this issue from me. The one thing | agree wholeheartedly
with Dan is that | think this Board of Aldermen has been very irresponsible with spending. | agree with him. A lot of
bad spending decisions have been made. However, he sees, you know, this issue of preserving the space as the
right thing to do. | don't think the spending decisions made by the city are going to change and as a hearing right after
this for $21 million to be spent that actually hasn't even been discussed by the board in two years. | don't think we're
going to stop spending. So we need to look at ways to have people who pay the bills and keep the lights on. That's
the way it has to be and we need this housing according to the study. So it's not just affordable housing.

Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds.

Laurie Ortolano

(inaudible). So let's take this where it belongs and bring it to the Planning Board and not approved this bond tonight
and let the Planning Board do its job and have faith that they're going to do their job and everyone get out there and

watch and participate. That's a fair process.

Johnathan Cathey

Thank you. | would just like to clarify. | believe it was a miscommunication. | never stated that this particular project
would be $21 million. | was referring to the debt that would be incurred by the bonds for the Riverwalk which will be
discussed later on this evening. Just to point out the amount of debt the city keeps spending. The number that |
quoted for this particular project was $15 million and that's over 20 years because that's how long the bond lasts. So
if we lose $600,000 in tax revenue every year for 20 years on top of the initial cost which would be $3.1 million with
interest, we're now looking at $15 million that we don't really have to spend.

Secondly, | would like to echo what Laura was saying about the affordable housing. Everyone needs to go read the
Imagine Nashua Plan and the housing sites if they have not. We need housing for every market number. Every level
of housing that you can get, we need. So this is not about affordable housing because we need condos at this price
range as well. This is more about the city spending money it doesn't have and going into more debt. That's the only
thing that this really hinges on and it's just not wise because it hasn't gone through the proper channels and the
proper committees yet. We need to see from the Aldermen and the Mayor a very transparent plan about how this
money is not going to incur more debt or cost taxpayers a rise in taxes, which we've been continuing to see year over
year. Thank you.

Alex Comeau

Thanks. (inaudible) I'll be brief. Just to touch on a couple of things. | agree with several of the points that Laurie just
made. Nashua does need affordable housing but that's all that we need. We need housing in many different levels
and the fact is there are affordable housing contracts ongoing: the Myrtle Street apartment project; | believe the
renovations going on Burke Street. There is affordable housing coming down the pipeline for lower income families,
but they're not the only people looking for housing. We talk all the time about attracting people to Nashua and having
the types of amenities and services that people want if they want to come live here and contribute to Nashua, which
they can't do if there's no other way. And, you know, the disruptions that people talk about often you see in the
neighborhood. Unless I'm mistaken, this was supposed to be an age qualified development. | don't hardly think that
retired people (inaudible) disrupting the tranquility of the park. That’s alll have to say. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd
Anyone else in opposition? Have you spoken before in opposition?

Unidentified Male Speaker

I might have. But affordable housing. Is there a percentage with this new development that we have to have in thee
- affordable housing? Laurie made a good point. She made an excellent point. Is there a percentage of this housing
that has to be affordable housing? Just curious. I'm done. Is there?

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Chairman Dowd

With that, | will close the public hearing on R-21-202.

Alderwoman Lu

Excuse me, Mr. Chairman.

Alderman O’Brien

With that closed Mr. Chairman before us this evening is R-21-187 Changing the Purpose of up to $440,225 of Unexpected
Bond Proceeds from the LED Streetlight Project to Infrastructure Improvements, Sidewalk Construction for Design, Repair,
and Construction of Sidewalks.

Chairman Dowd

Just so everyone knows, we have to go through these other three public hearings before the Budget Committee will
meet and take action on all four of these actions.

Alderman Clemons

Yeah, thank you. | just wanted to let everyone know that | am here participating via Zoom and | joined the meeting at 7:05.
There's no one in the room with me. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd
Alright.
R-21-187
CHANGING THE PURPOSE OF UP TO $440,225 OF UNEXPENDED BOND PROCEEDS FROM THE LED
STREET LIGHT PROJECT TO INFRASTRUCURE IMPROVEMENTS - SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION FOR THE
DESIGN, REPAIR, AND CONSTRUCTION OF SIDEWALKS

Chairman Dowd

So on this particular bond resolution, and | believe we have the City Engineer here to talk to it, this is money that was
allocated for one purpose and we're now reallocating it for another. It is not new bonding. Mr. Hudson?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is correct. Dan Hudson, City Engineer. This is bond money that was secured for an LED
streetlight conversion project which has been completed. So this was remaining money from that project that was
already used and the request is to reassign that to sidewalk work. As you know, the city has many sidewalks and
many in need of repairs. So this would help us towards those efforts.

Chairman Dowd

Are there any questions from any of the Aldermen on this particular bond?

Alderman Wilshire

| just had a question of Mr. Hudson. Have you already identified where the sidewalks are going to be repaired with
this money?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Thank you. No we haven't identified specific locations. One of the first things we're going to do, and actually we're
scoping right now, is do a complete inventory of all the sidewalk in the city. We have some mapping but the separate
will be a detailed review identifying where all our deficiencies are and then confirm all of our sidewalk segments are.
So that'll be the first effort and then we prioritize, based upon condition and based on proximity to schools, public
facilities, bus stops, and that sort of thing to come up with a plan of attack, so to speak, for the repairs.

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Gordon T Jackson

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Controllers Office and Information Technology Office
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Computer Technology — Large Scale Computers — Skokie, [llinois 1968 — 1972
Controllers Office
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Kingsbury Homes, Boise Cascade — Prefabricated Homes — Grand Isle, Vermont 1975 — 1978
Franchise Owner
Housing Developer

Knowledge and Information, Inc., - PC Instruction and Sales — Burlington, Vermont 1978 — 1984
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WYCN tv13 Nashua —FCC Low Power Television — Nashua, NH, 1989 — 2011
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LOYOLA UNIVERSITY — Chicago, Illinois
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Alderman Wilshire

Thank you.

Alderman Lopez

I'm just curious about the timeframe if the first step if this passes and if we do begin the evaluation, the study, is the
weather getting in the way? And if that is a concern, would you like me to photograph all of Ward 4 for you?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Sure, that'd be great. No that effort probably will go forward maybe regardless. We're working on the scope with
Nashua Regional Planning Commission. That work will be done next summer. This funding - that will use a portion of
this funding. So there could be other fixes done elsewhere with this money. | mean this $400,000 is quite a bit of
money but sidewalks are also very expensive. Every bit helps and this will certainly help us work towards improving
our Sidewalks.

Alderman Lopez

Just one follow up Mr. Chair. Are the sidewalks also subject to the moratorium when utility work is done?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

That's a good question. | don't believe they are, no. That issue has come up. We had to do some work on Main
Street and of course those sidewalks where, you know, fairly recently done. But we did proceed with that work and
just tried to match the repair the sidewalk as best we could to the existing condition. You know, it's inevitable that
things come up and we do have to cut these newer infrastructure features. It's unfortunate, but it is it is something
that happens.

Alderman Tencza

Thank you. So Mr. Hudson when people come before the Planning Board, many times the city collects a fee for
payments in lieu of having to place sidewalks in certain areas that they're not already there. Why aren't we using that
money to help kind of on ongoing to pay for sidewalk upkeep and repair?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Yeah, we face that question. We do use that money. We haven't used that money. Last year, we did quite an
extensive project along East Hollis Street replacing over 1,000 feet of sidewalk there and they used money from a
number of sources one of which was the sidewalk funds. Those sidewalk funds are by zone. So there's four different
zones and we need to use in those zones. But that is one of the funding sources we draw from. Those contributions
are helpful but unfortunately they don't total up to enough to make a significant impact usually. So we really need
more significant dedicated funding such as this in order to do more expensive projects.

Alderman Tencza

Thank you.
Chairman Dowd
Any other questions? All right. I'll open the public hearing on R-21-187 - testimony in favor

TESTIMONY IN FAVOR

Laurie Ortolano

| have a couple of questions. If the excess money from the LED project that is bonded money is not spent on this,
where does it go or what happens to that money?

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