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plot of land in question is parcel 57-3 15 Bartlett Ave. This 13 acre parcel of old growth forest is effectively a
peninsula that juts into Greeley Park surrounded on two sides by Greeley and on a third by the city on property parcel
65-216. You the aldermen of Nashua, have a unique and singular opportunity. Never before has this plot of land
come up for sale and no matter which way your decision goes, it will never be up for sale again. You will go down in
history. The 15 of you Aldermen Caron, Cleaver, Clemons, Dowd, Harriott-Gathright, Lu, Jette, Kelly, Klee, Laws,
Lopez, O’Brien, Schmidt, Tencza, and Wilshire, you will go down in history as the ones who decided the future of
Greeley Park.

125 years from now will be the year 2146. It's unfathomable to think about what life in 2146 will be like. Just like the
aldermen 1896 trying to comprehend life in 2021. But in the year 2146 during the 250" anniversary of Greeley Park,
how will the aldermen and citizens of Nashua remember you? Will they look down on you with contempt and disdain
for allowing a condo development to be built in the midst of Greeley Park? Or will they look down on you with
admiration and pride for having had the forethought and long term strategic thinking to keep Greeley Park as it is for
generations to come to save this rare urban forest and for having done your part to help combat climate change?
What do you want your legacy to be?

There's a petition on change.org to stop the development and have the city purchased the land and officially add the
forest to Greeley Park. As a 5 pm that yesterday, there were nearly 3,000 signatures on it. Of those 1,248 where 44%
were Nashua residents with 70% of those 872 signatures outside of Ward 3. On top of these were 1,138 signatures
across the US and 448 across the globe from 42 different countries. Now you might not care what people from
Germany and England think about this, but people from 42 different countries...

Alderman O’Brien

Thirty second.

Paul Metzger

...care right about the decision that you're about to make. You know what the right thing to do is. You know what the
highest and best use of this land is. | hope that you have the courage to do what is right.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else who would like to speak in favor of this legislation?

Penny Ferreira

Good evening. Thank you for letting me speak. My name is Penny Ferreira and | live at 3 Birchwood with
my husband John Ferreira. I've been a resident of Nashua for almost 21 years now.

With all due respect, | Know it may seem like you can't affect the purchase and sales but Greeley Park belongs to the
citizens, the taxpayers in the city. Through my research of trying to determine what | was going to say, it came to my
attention that the builder has to follow the zoning and the land use that the people have every right to determine and
also through their voice how the land will be developed as the people see fit.

Also, this has been so quickly done. | only found out about it three weeks ago and | wonder the change.org petition
was wonderful and | thank Paul for doing that, but how many of the other people in your individual wards don't even
know that this is happening, and how many of those people actually go to Greeley Park on a regular basis and use it
for all different types of programs. | respect - my mother's a realtor, my husband's a builder. | respect the fact that the
family has the right to do whatever land that they inherit but also as a taxpayer, | have a right to say how any land is
developed in this town and especially over where Greeley Park is where it abuts in three places with 43 houses
slotted to go in. Any work that is done there, any development is going to greatly change the aesthetics and the
function of how the citizens can use that park. Also, | want to refer to the Master Plan that just got approved two
months ago. It is loaded with verbiage about that the recommendations and the conservation preservation element is
to identify most of the scenic areas in Nashua, determine if the existing land meets the regulatory structures sufficient
to protect the scenic attributes in the face of development. It's the job of the aldermen to protect that. | can't tell you
what to do but | can ask you to listen to the voice of the people that you represent. If you read this in detail, the job is
to protect such scenic areas through acquisition and conservation easements.

Now we can ask the builder to put in a bigger easement but when you walk down behind the swing sets in Greeley
Park, you're going to see the houses. Trees are going to come down. You're going to have a traffic issue.

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Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds.

Penny Ferreira

I'm just asking you to please consider tabling this and go back to constituents and ask them are they willing to have a
bill. There is a way that the children, the listing agent, the builder, and the citizens of this town can come up with a
better solution and | know that you can be a part of that. Thank you

Chairman Dowd

Just before we proceed, | just wanna make a point that it's adjacent to Greeley Park. It is not part of Greeley Park.
And so you would state your name and address for the record.

Bob Born

Sure. My name is Bob Born. | live at 28 Farley Street with my wife. The property at 15 Bartlett must be used as the
people see fit. No as the developer sees fit, not as the seller sees fit, as we see fit. I'm asking you to use your good
conscience and learn about what we believe is a fit use for the property. There are a number of subjects | could |
could speak on that | think are all relevant to your decision. They include wetlands, agricultural use, traffic,
infrastructure, safety, greenspace. | suspect there's a few more of those. All address traffic. Traffic on the northern
entrance to Nashua - Concord Street. Imagine that neighborhood around Greeley Park. Imagine the day when
Bartlett Street is so congested that it only has room for one lane of traffic. That's today. Certain times during the day.
Imagine the day when an ambulance driver has to get out of their vehicle and ask people to move their cars so he can
leave. That's that neighborhood. That's today.

Imagine being able to drive - can't drive to work because the traffic is so thick, so heavy at 7:30 in the morning and
2:30 in the afternoon. That's today. Imagine the nightly school activities when all the students are being asked, the
parents are being asked to park along the streets creating one lane traffic on multiple streets. That's today. Imagine
negatively impacting the activities at Greeley Park - concerts, school activities, youth (inaudible), Santa in the park,
prom pictures, wedding pictures, the kiddie pool, freight night, movies in the park, the art show because we think that
a development is the right thing to do.

| beg to differ. Can you use your good conscience and make a good decision...?

Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds.

Bob Born

...in favor what the people see fit for this property. Thank you.
Chairman Dowd

Anyone else that wishes to speak in favor of this legislation?
Tim Sennott

Thank you. My name is Tim Sennott. | live at 62 Underhill Street in Nashua here in Ward 7. I'm speaking tonight to
illustrate a little bit of what Alderman Klee said and that this is not a not in my backyard situation. A little about as far
as from Greeley Park as you can get. | had some prepared remarks tonight but given the information that we learned
tonight, | thought I'd come and address those.

You still have an opportunity here tonight. You have an opportunity to take the information that you hear, and the
testimonies from these residents, and be aggressive in your discussions with the developer, and the seller. The
developer has already articulated that they are not interested in developing property where it is not supported. You're
hearing a lot of passionate testimony tonight that this is not supported. | hope that in the opportunities you have as
the leaders of this city to speak with the developers that this is communicated to them. That many people in this city
are not interested in this development occurring abutting Greeley Park. We speak about the difference between

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property abutting the park and property on the park. A gentleman back here | overheard said is a difference without
distinction. Frequent users of Mine Falls Park will tell you that the area over by Whipple Street where UPS is was
drastically affected by the clear cutting that took place over there. Trails that were very lushly populated by wooded
area immediately now abut an industrial area. It does make a difference. Just because it's not in the park doesn't
mean it doesn't affect the park. We still have an opportunity. | support this legislation. | support going forward with
aggressively trying to purchase this land and preserving Greeley Park. Thank you

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else like to speak in favor of this legislation? By the way, a lot of these things that you're pointing out if the
purchase does go through, all of these things you're pointing out should be brought up to the Planning Board because
they make all the decisions that you are now talking about. Those decisions are not made by the Board of Aldermen.
If the property were available for purchase, then the Board of Aldermen can take actions to try and purchase it. At the
moment, it's not available for purchase but if it does go through the developer and he did say today that they are going
through with the development, they will still have to go through the Planning Board and the Planning Board can be
heard on all the things that you're talking about tonight. Okay.

Andrea Rebeck

Thank you. My name is Andrea Rebeck. | live at 111 Atherton Avenue in Nashua, Ward 3. | agree with those who
feel the chance to add these 13 forested acres to Greeley Park is a rare opportunity that the city of Nashua should not
pass up. But I'm going to address a couple of other points tonight. One financial, one technical. Many opposed to
creating this bond. We haven't heard from them yet but I'm assuming that they are concerned about the debt that the
city is incurring with a bond like this, spending more of our tax dollars, and frankly I'm concerned about that too. But |
also know that a city that does not invest in improvements is a city that is dying. Nashua is definitely not dying. The
city has invested heavily in creating housing downtown, has benefits to the business community which needs more
housing to attract and retain its workers. The city is helping to pay for our new performing arts center, which benefits
all of us who enjoy the performing arts.

| understand there's another bond being considered tonight for $21 million for riverwalk improvements. Wow. $21
million dollars. Well a lot of us enjoy hiking along the riverwalk. So supporting a bond that's about 1/10 the size of this
one is actually a small investment in a very important development for Greeley Park. As Alderman Clemons said last
night when | watched him on Zoom, Greeley Park is not a neighborhood park. It belongs to the entire city as you have
heard. | used to live in Ward 8 and believe me, | enjoyed Greeley Park while | lived there and | enjoy it even more
now. And since it does serve the entire city as the city grows, the park should grow. And about the only place it can
grow is the subject of this bond proposal.

Now what to do if the owners don't want to sell to us? Well, there's not much we can do. It's their property. But I'll tell
you as a retired architect who has been involved with several developers and has reviewed many site plans, from just
a quick glance at the one presented to us by this developer, this plan has problems. There are numerous technical
issues that need to be resolved before it can be approved and many changes will be required.

Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds.
Andrea Rebeck

I've seen developers walk away when faced by these requirements. So | would urge the Board to keep its options
open in terms of a bond to purchase the property. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else that would like to be heard in favor of this legislation?

Robert Lodi

Thank you Mr. Chairman. Robert Lodi, 12 Bartlett Avenue. Appreciate the opportunity to come and address you
tonight. One point | want to make with respect to Mr. Geisinger’s comments. | understand he sent a letter to you with

respect to this that he's going to move forward. On November 17* he stood up in front of 60 residents, | think some of
you may have been here, | know it was recorded, and he told us a number of things. One of which is if the city

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expressed an interest in buying the property or he received opposition, he would step away. We're asking you to pass
the bond and confirm to him the city as interest. He's told you already he's going to move forward so he hasn't kept his
word — 2,800 signatures. That's widespread opposition. He hasn't kept his word. So with respect to this measure,
this doesn't say the city buys it. This is a measure to pass a bond to give us the opportunity to buy the property. It
also gives us time and opportunity to get matching funds for the trust for public lands. There's a number of resources
that are available at the federal, State, and local level to get monies to preserve this land. Preserve, protect, and
defend this property. We're getting into technicalities when we start to say it's not inside the park. If you spend any
time in that park, you know this is essentially surrounded, right? This property is surrounded by the park. So it is part
and parcel. It is the essence of the park and it will be permanently diminished if the city doesn't take action.

So a couple facts for you. These are some of the studies. | think some of you may have that from 2014 for the Trust
for Public Lands, but it showed that 76% of residents in New Hampshire participate in outdoor recreation and the tax
revenue from that outdoor recreation generates $293 million a year. | don't know what the number is and what the tax
revenue generated by Greeley Park but if you've been there on any summer day, any weekend, even here in the
winter, if you were there Sunday for Santa in the park, how many children came from all across the city? Many of
them from disadvantaged neighborhoods. So it's not my backyard. It's our backyard and it's used by residents of
every single ward in the city.

If you don't take action today, we lose it forever. There's no undo button. There's no second chance. So a couple
others. This study also found residential lands consume $1.12 in services for every dollar in tax revenue. So we
talked about the cost of the bond. We can't afford this development to go in. It's going to cost us money from here on
out. So the benefits of this development are completely...

Alderman O’Brien

30 second.
Robert Lodi

The benefits go to a developer who's out of State and is developing a development that doesn't fit the city. It's an
enclave and it's not accessible the residents in Nashua. We all know the benefit of being outside and we all know the
two year toll that this pandemic has taken, none of which has been felt more greatly than our children denying them
the access to spend time in a wooded area that's accessible by bus through the entire city is something that cannot be
lost. Thank you for your time.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else in the chamber that wishes to speak in favor of this legislation? If not, | see someone online. Mr.
Richardson do you want to speak in favor?

Dan Richardson

Yes, | do. This is Dan Richardson, 70 Berkeley Street. Can you hear me?
Chairman Dowd

Yes.

Dan Richardson

Okay. | would like to first start off saying that | fully support the logic that Alderman Klee gave in the introduction. |
have been a supporter of Greeley Park for as long as | lived in Nashua, which is 30 years plus. I'm also a member of
the Friends of Greeley Park and which is primarily concerned with protecting the park and having enhancing changes
to the park when they make sense. One of the things that | am worried about is placement of private projects into a
public park. That's happened over and over again so there's always an attempt being made to diminish the value of
the park.

This is a different case. This is the case where we have land that has been appreciated as part of the park, not
knowing all the time that it had actually been private property. | understand about having a purchase and sale
agreement that we can't interfere with that but | urge you to pass this resolution to make money available because in
the event that we don't have the opportunity to buy the park outright, it makes a whole lot of sense for the developer to

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sell us that slice of land which we will allow it to live fallow to preserve it as public park. For right now it would under
his current plan, it would remain private property with private property rights. | believe that it would be to his benefit
and people would certainly appreciate it if in the event that he continues on with his development, that he sell that
slice of undeveloped property to the city for the enjoyment of the residents and preservation of the park at least as
some of it is without it being...

Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds
Dan Richardson

... just a slice of really hard being hacked away and connected by a narrow strip of park with a road through it. So
please, please do in fact pass this resolution. You might not need to use all of the money but that means you just
don't have to borrow that excess amount of money. Thank you very much.

Chairman Dowd

Is there anyone else that wishes to speak in favor of this legislation?

Kathy Lodi

My name is Kathy Lodi, 12 Bartlett Ave. | don't want to repeat what others have said. | support everything that has
been said in support of this resolution. It's been really hard for people to put themselves in the position to defend this.
I'm not in the position to tell somebody what to do with their property and nor do | want to. However as a landowner
and a taxpayer, | have the right to speak about what gets developed on that property. At a time when we need more
green space, at a time when we need more trees, more connection with the outdoors, we seem to get less and less.
This is very important to a lot of people to 1,000s of people.

Now the reason we're here is not to interfere with the purchase and sale. It is because Mr. Geisinger said he would
back away if the city had interest in purchasing the land. We need your help. We don't want to add more burden to
the taxpayers. We have options. We don't want to deprive the sellers or their agents of the proceeds they would
make from the sale. We have some options. People can get their money and a city can add to a park that the
greenspace that it desperately needs. This doesn't have to be adversarial or even political. Mr. Geisinger said he
would back out if the city had interest. We need you to pass this so he knows the city has interest and we will work on
all of it. We will work on a plan. We will work on the monies. We want to save the land for the park. The people want
this land. Please listen to us. Thank you very much.

Jim Kahnweiler

Yes, Jim Kahnweiler. | live at 56 Hawthorne Village Road in Ward 9. I'd just like to say I'm really impressed by the
support for this legislation and | strongly urge the city council to go ahead and enact the bond agreement. I've only
been a Nashua resident for a little over a year and I've certainly enjoyed walking in Mind Falls Park and to know that |
haven't been to the section that's in question but if it's anything like Mine Falls, the city has a great opportunity to
improve the public space we all enjoy. | just want to thank everyone for their support in moving forward. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd
Thank you. Is there anyone else who would like to speak in favor of this legislation?
Denise Mucillo

Hello, my name is Denise Mucillo. I’m from Ward 8 — 6 Midhurst. | don't think | can add anything to what all these
people eloquently stated here - the facts and so forth. I'd like to say that my father moved us to Nashua, New
Hampshire, from Boston, MA, because of the scenic nature of the city. It would be awful to lose that especially near
Greeley Park. | have enjoyed Greeley Park and my family has enjoyed Greeley Park for four generations. That's
quite a bit of fun that we've had at Greeley Park. There's nature up there. There’s all kinds of songbirds. There is so
much that can be gained and when you folks said that, you know, pretty much it's done. It's a done deal. | wanted to
walk out that door might just say | tried. But | don't think it's a done deal. We had the same problem with 8 Merritt
Parkway that we're going through right now. He wanted to build hundreds and hundreds of apartments there. The
developer did listen to us. He's going to be coming up with an alternative. He's listening to us. He's working with us.

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It's not a done deal and | want to praise Patricia Klee - I'm sorry, | don't know everybody's name - for her forward
thinking. This land should be conserved for the City of Nashua. There should not be any alternative to that. It should
be conserved. Thank you for your time.

Chairman Dowd
Anyone else who wants to speak in favor?
Steve Dixon

Steve Dixon. Thank you. Yeah and my wife in the back rows is shrinking right now as talk. I'll put the video on. Two
things - Clark Field. We did this already in the north end. The neighborhood walked Clark Field. But my question is
this, how many people live in $600,000 houses? That's what they're there - each house is going to be $600,000.
How many houses - first thing with all due respect, | don't live in a house — Mayor do you live in a $600,000 house? |
just don't see that the plan that they put it on there is going to work.

And then the second point | will make and then I'm done is the track. | go down Columbia Avenue every night, every
day and see the traffic around the school. They have moved St. Chris and Nashua Catholic have combined. They've
put another grade in Nashua Catholic so now instead of 7 and 8'", now it's 6", 7", and 8'". You really need to take a
look at this. You really need to take us - I'm done. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd

Anyone else that wishes to speak in favor of this legislation?

Carrie Spier

Carrie Spier - 9 Columbia Ave. This year and a half, especially with COVID and some injuries that | had to my leg, |
ended up walking through Greeley Park every single day with my husband. Every single day, sometimes twice a day.
The amount of people that we see in the park every day, and they don't obviously don't come from our neighborhood
all the time, they come from all over the place. We've seen multiple weddings on a single day. The kids are playing.
We've seen people hunting for mushrooms. People tracking birds. Parents teaching their kids how to ride bikes. It's
such a well-used park that it's worth everything to expand it because we've seen times when there was so many
things going on that not enough people had places to set up their areas that they weren't having celebrations for.
That's the main point of this.

The second point that I'd like to make is that during a number of meetings, we've heard people say that by putting in
these houses they'll be paying more tax and therefore everybody else will save a little bit of money on their tax. | think
that's a little naive. We all know taxes don't ever, ever go down. 50 years ago now, taxes have never gone down. It's
a balance between the assessed valuation and the tax rate, but it never goes down in total. So | think that's a bit of a
naive argument.

The third thing that we've heard also mentioned is that by having people move into those houses, it'll free up less
expensive houses for people that are retiring. My next door neighbor and my behind neighbor, both bought those
houses within the last year and they are not from Nashua. They are not from the people that own less expensive
houses. They were people from Massachusetts and from out of town. So that argument is also | don't think it's going
to bear any fruition. People who are buying less expensive houses are not going to move into a $600,000 house and
take on that kind of debt at retirement age. So | think it just behooves us to save Greeley Park and not just save it but
to expand it because it's being overused even now. We've actually seen many Sundays with there’s a jousting team
in there. Where else can you find jousters and who even know they still existed? So | think it's worthwhile saving that
part for the creative use that it has. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd
Anyone else would like to speak in favor of the legislation.

Michelle Swallow

Hello, everyone. I'm Michelle Swallow. I'm from 92 Concord Street. Thank you for having this time for us today.
Really this group has said so much about how valuable the park is, what it means to the city, what could be added by
expanding on it? | guess the question | would ask you is why wouldn't you give us the option to move forward? We're

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asking for approval of a bond. It doesn't mean we have to spend the money. We've heard from the developer that
they want some expression — well they don't want it but they would back away with some expression of interest. Why
wouldn't we express the interest? Just why not? We've heard about the potential for all of us to leave a legacy for the
generations that follow. Why wouldn't we just do this even if it seems like it's not going to go anywhere and it's
hopeless? It's not. There's action we can take. Please, please pass this resolution.

Chairman Dowd

Is there anyone else who would like to speak in favor of this legislation?

Mark Berrigan

Thank you for listening to the citizens of the city. My name is Mark Berrigan. | live at 52 Webster Street in Nashua.
This urban development over development plan is both destructive and dangerous for the quiet and narrow streets of
our neighborhood in which we live. It's totally out of character of what the neighborhood is and as we know it as the
north end. You can't blame citizens from Nashua for choosing a nice place to live. The schools are important - good
schools, city government, city parks, narrow streets, well-groomed houses all add up to an experience that
generations dream of attaining and work so hard to achieve. Along with the surrounding neighborhoods, Greeley Park
is one such place. | can remember exactly the moment | fell in love with Greeley Park. | fell in love with the
indestructible metal slide that no one in their right mind would ever think of today. It seemed 100 feet tall when | was
younger and the swings so long are the chains one can kick tree branches 20 feet in the air. That indestructible slide,
those monkey bars, and swings are still here today for children to enjoy at Greeley Park. Over 50 years that I've
known it, maybe more I'm sure.

The paved path that connects Concord to Manchester streets is the absolute best place to walk, jog, bike uphill both
ways. It's out of sight of any traffic noise or urban overdevelopment pollution. | ran along that path every day when
the city had exercise stations along throughout the woods and that would be the beginning of my training as the
United States Marine Corps Captain and war veteran. | made it through OCS because of that park running along the
Barker property hidden just out of sight. Some of those workout stations are still there too. Along that road is
surrounded by sweet smelling forestry. A little getaway right in our park. Right in our very own town.

For a few years, | lived in a city that had so much urban sprawl it would make your head spin - Los Angeles,
California. When my two daughters were born, | decided right then in there, | wanted a better place for them to grow
up, a place where they could run and play...

Alderman O’Brien

30 second.

Mark Berrigan

... ride their bikes without fear of city traffic. This is why | came back from Los Angeles to live in the very neighborhood
| grew up in Nashua, New Hampshire, to raise my two daughters in the same park that | had the privilege of growing
up in and pushing them on the very same swings and slides. Let's keep the best of Nashua intact. The best place to
live in the country, quite frankly, one hell of a park. It would be a terrible waste of public...thank you.

Chairman Dowd

Is there anyone else that wants to speak in favor of this legislation?

Fred Shirley

My name is Fred Shirley. | live at 111 Atherton Avenue. I've lived in Nashua for over 50 years and during that time,
I've come to realize what an extraordinary place Greeley Park is. People have already said just about everything |
was hoping to say but I’d just add to comments about the uniqueness of Greeley Park. (inaudible) meets the
Manchester River, the city recently put in that beautiful boat ramp so people can access the water. No place else in
the city has that. The other one is that there's a garden there where people can grow plants. Other parks don't have
that kind of thing. | think Greeley Park is something really special.

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Chairman Dowd

Anyone else like to speak in favor of this legislation? Seeing no one, I'm going to move on to...

Mike Viggiano

Good evening. My name is Mike Viggiano. | live at 35 Columbia Avenue. First, | want to apologize because | had
written up a very nice dissertation for tonight. My wife said it read like warranties and | couldn't get it down to three
minutes. So | sent you all an e-mail. | hope you read all of it. It's | think it's very thoughtful. | think it's meaningful.
It's not a rant, by any means but it says how | feel about how things over the years and over the past centuries have
come about with National Parks and people who saved land, including here in Nashua in the State.

You know, earlier | heard one of you say and | couldn't tell which one because of all the masks that there really is
nothing that can be done. Well I'm looking at a group of people here my neighbors who have a can do attitude about
everything, right? You can’t tell a group of people in this room that nothing can be done. If there's a will on your part,
there's a way to get it done and I'm sure there is with the help of all these folks. Okay. You know, we have been doing
this for how many weeks now? | look at Gary, and Laurie, and Barbara, and Jean. | hope we're all listening to what's
going on yet because a lot is at stake as everybody's already said. And you know, I'm going to do run a little cliché by
you, you know, we're AmeriCANS, not Americants. So let's get this done. Thank you.

Chairman Dowd

So | just want to be clear. It may have been misunderstood. We’re not saying there's nothing that can’t be done. If
the purchase and sale does go through, any project has to go through the Planning Board. The Planning Board will
take into account all the things that you're mentioning tonight and they can stop or change the project. We as
aldermen can't do that. All we can do is have the money available if there's an opportunity to buy the property, which
is what the legislation is addressing. Okay if there's no one else.

Susan Vail

Can you hear me?

Chairman Dowd

Yes.

Susan Vail

Okay. | don't know what mode I'm in here. | just want to quickly say that | would like the Board of Aldermen to
approve the bond.

Chairman Dowd
We need your address.
Susan Vail

Oh, I'm sorry. Suzanne Vail. I’m also a New Hampshire State Representative and I'm at 28 Norton Street, Nashua. |
am speaking in favor of the legislation because | think that we need time to look at the impact that this kind of a
change would have on this park. This is abutting historical property and it's hard for me to imagine having walked the
park, what the park will look like. | think there will be significant changes. | also think the rest of the community, the
city at large as one of the earlier speakers said, | just don't think that they really know what's going on. So | hope that
we can approve this legislation and get some time to look at the situation. | don't think it's just a simple sale from one
family to another developer when there's this many people. It's a big city that's going to be impacted by the loss of
this land. As Alderman Klee had said, once it's gone there's no getting it back. So let's not mess this up. Thank you
so much for your time.

Chairman Dowd

All right. No one else wants to speak in favor.

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Unknown Male Speaker

| would just like to say | want to thank my neighbors for coming out. Thank you. Thank you for trying to save our
neighborhood. That's what I'm trying to say. Thank you very much.

Chairman Dowd

All right if there's no other further testimony in favor, | will now ask for testimony in opposition to this legislation.
Please come up to the microphone - name and address.

Testimony in Opposition

John Sullivan

John Sullivan, 30 Holbrook Drive, Nashua, New Hampshire, and Ward 9. Thank you for the opportunity to speak
tonight. | come before the Board to share my thoughts on why | think the city shouldn't interfere with private land
development and turn this piece of private land into government owned property. According to the housing study that
just got completed a year ago, Nashua has a housing shortage problem. Our low inventory of housing is driving up
prices. Its economics 101. We lack housing and all price ranges. The Planning Departments set a goal of 5,000
units of housing — 5,000. That's a lot. If this development on private land doesn't happen, there's 44 units towards the
5,000 that won't happen. We're no closer to our goal. | guess we'll just have to develop somewhere else. Where? If
we keep making exceptions for one reason or another, we don't hit our goal. We won't get affordable housing and
we'll make no progress.

If the city buys this land, what does the city do with it? Sell it? To whom? And now we're in the real estate business.
| like my city to focus on infrastructure, public safety, and education not private land development. If the city buys this
land, that's an estimated $600,000 dollars in taxes that we can get in revenue to pay the police, the fire department,
and our teachers. That revenue needs to come from somewhere. Either it comes from current property owners
through higher taxes or we can expand the base. If the city buys this land, our taxes will go up even more. I've
looked at the plans. I've walked the space. I've enjoyed Greeley Park with my family for many, many years. If you
stand on Concord Street and look towards the stone house, you simply cannot see it. If you're enjoying a show on the
stage or playing softball on the fields, it doesn't impact your experience. This doesn't encroach one inch onto Greeley
Park. There are setbacks in place. The city can work with the developer to make them fit the character of the
neighborhood.

Alderman O’Brien

30 seconds.

John Sullivan

This development is forward thinking. The homes don't use a lot of land. That's more homes on less land. It stops
sprawl. If you travel this country in the world, homes are closer together. It increases density. This is the way we
should be developing - smarter, more efficient. If the city buys this land, it sets a bad precedent. There was no
documented uproar when developers bought the land off of Ridge Road in my ward. That was a Boy Scout camp.

Alderman O’Brien

Time.

John Sullivan

It's private land. Let the market take care of itself and have the city provide the guardrails. Thank you.
Chairman Dowd

Anyone else that would like to speak in opposition to this legislation?

Laurie Ortolano

Hi. Yes, good evening. Laurie Orlando, 41 Berkeley Street. | do not think we should act on this bond. This is a