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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 3/12/2019 - P19

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Alderman Klee
Ok thank you.
President Wilshire

The motion is to re-refer Resolution R-18-073 to the Personnel Administrative Committee. Further
discussion.

MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-18-073 re-referred.

R-19-103

Endorser: Alderman Ernest Jette

AUTHORIZING THE CONVEYANCE OF DISCONTINUED PORTIONS OF CONANT ROAD
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN JETTE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-103
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-19-103 declared duly adopted.

R-19-104
Endorsers: Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE NASHUA BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THE NASHUA TEACHERS’ UNION, LOCAL 1044,
AFT, AFL-CIO, UNIT D, FOOD SERVICE WORKERS FROM SEPTEMBER 1, 2018 THROUGH
AUGUST 31, 2021
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN DOWD FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-104

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Dowd

This bargaining unit, their funding comes from the revenues generated through the food sales and federal
funds, no City funds. So it’s sort of self-funding, they are certainly not the highest paid people by far
anywhere in the City. So it is a very fair contract, it went through the Budget Committee with unanimous

approval.

MOTION CARRIED

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Resolution R-19-104 declared duly adopted.

R-19-107
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
RELATIVE TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $50,250 OF UNANTICIPATED
REVENUE FROM FUND #1000 “GENERAL FUND”, ACCOUNT #43295 “REVENUE FROM
FEDERAL GRANT” INTO FUND #7074 “SCHOOL SPECIAL EDUCATION EXPENDABLE
TRUST FUND”
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN SCHMIDT FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-107 BY ROLL CALL

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Klee, Alderman Laws, Alderman Lopez
Alderman Caron, Alderman Jette, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Tencza, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Wilshire 13

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-19-107 declared duly adopted.

R-19-113
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Ernest Jette
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
ADOPTING ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-113
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-19-113 declared duly adopted.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 3/12/2019 - P21

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UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O-18-030
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
INCREASING FEES FOR LEASED CITY PARKING SPACES
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN LAWS TO RE-REFER O-18-030 TO THE PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE
AFFAIRS COMMITTEE

ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Laws

First of all despite what was said earlier, this only affects the monthly lease fees, just as a point of order, so
it’s not people who go downtown to shop aren’t paying more money to park there and patronize downtown
businesses. This is only people who live and work downtown. The entire point of this was just get up to
market rate because everywhere around us is charging more than double than we are charging for monthly
lease parking. Alderman Jette pointed out that there used to be, previously, or the way it is right now |
suppose, there is a disparity between uncovered parking and covered parking and it costs more for covered
parking for obvious reasons in New England. This new legislation there is no disparity and so we are going to
send it back and amend that and that is what this is all about.

Alderman Lopez

| would like to also note that when we discussed it in Committee we also discussed the preference of many of
the Aldermen to consider using it more productively, not necessarily in the general fund but we had talked
about possibly a special revenue fund that could support the maintenance or upkeep of the parking garages
which if they need it, comes out of the general fund.

Alderman Clemons

| would like to, | think this is a good move and I'd like to get more information myself about what the impact
will be on businesses downtown that currently lease or that are looking to lease and that potentially might
want to move into the downtown if this would be helpful or a deterrent or what the case might be on that.

MOTION CARRIED
Ordinance O-18-030 declared duly adopted.

O-19-035
Endorsers: Alderman June M. Caron
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
RESCINDING THE RIGHT TURN ON RED PROHIBITION FROM THE COSTCO EXIT ONTO
DANIEL WEBSTER HIGHWAY
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CARON FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-18-035

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 3/12/2019 - P22

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ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Clemons

I’m sure my wife is going to be really excited about this one so | am going to say | am supporting it.
MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-19-035 declared duly adopted.

NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-19-114
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Ernest A. Jette
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED
THE AMOUNT OF SIX MILLION DOLLARS ($6,000,000) FOR THE PHASE III LINED LANDFILL
EXPANSION OF THE NASHUA FOUR HILLS LANDFILL, TO INCLUDE ENGINEERING
SERVICES
Given its first reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN DOWD TO ACCEPT THE FIRST READING OF R-19-114 BY ROLL CALL,
ASSIGN IT TO THE BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE AND SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR
MONDAY, MARCH 25, 2019, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE ALDERMANIC CHAMBER

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Dowd, Alderman Klee, Alderman Laws, Alderman Lopez
Alderman Caron, Alderman Jette, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Tencza, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Wilshire 13

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

R-19-115
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Ernest Jette
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jan Schmidt
RELATIVE TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF $120,000 OF UNANTICIPATED
REVENUE FROM FUND 6000 “SOLID WASTE FUND”, ACCOUNT 44286 “COVER MATERIAL
REVENUE” INTO FUND 6000 “SOLID WASTE FUND”, ACCOUNT 55699 “OTHER
CONTRACTED SERVICES”
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

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R-19-116
Endorser: Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
CHANGING THE PURPOSE OF UP TO TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ($10,000) OF UNEXPENDED
BOND PROCEEDS FROM THE ROOF REPLACEMENT WORK AT FAIRGROUNDS MIDDLE
SCHOOL AND LEDGE STREET ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO PAY COSTS OF ROOF
ASSESSMENTS AT MAIN DUNSTABLE, BIRCH HILL, AND BICENTENNIAL ELEMENTARY
SCHOOLS
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-19-117
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
CHANGING THE USE OF FUNDS FOR A WASTEWATER FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
PROJECT FROM BRIDGE STREET OVERFLOW DETENTION BASIN IMPROVEMENTS TO WET
WEATHER FACILITY SCREEN AND RAKE UPGRADES
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE and the BOARD OF PUBLIC
WORKS by President Wilshire

R-19-118
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF UP TO $218,486 FROM THE
STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES INTO
TRANSIT GRANT ACTIVITY “FEDERAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY (“FTA”) OPERATING GRANT”
Given its first reading; assigned to the HUMAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

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R-19-119
Endorser: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
AUTHORIZING PENNICHUCK CORPORATION AND PENNICHUCK EAST UTILITY, INC. TO
ENTER INTO A TERM LOAN WITH COBANK, ACB
Given its first reading; assigned to the PENNICHUCK WATER SPECIAL COMMITTEE by President
Wilshire

R-19-120
Endorser: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman Ben Clemons
CHANGING THE NAME OF PANTHER DRIVE TO OFFICER JAMES ROCHE DRIVE
Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by
President Wilshire

R-19-121
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $43,113 FROM THE UNITED
STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INTO POLICE GRANT ACTIVITY “2018 JUSTICE
ASSISTANCE GRANT (MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL)”
Given its first reading; assigned to the HUMAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

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R-19-122
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
DISCONTINUING THREE EXPENDABLE TRUST FUNDS
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-19-123
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
RELATIVE TO THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 PROPOSED BUDGET FOR
THE CITY OF NASHUA GENERAL, ENTERPRISE, AND SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS
Given its first reading;

There being no objection, President Wilshire accepted the first reading of R-19-123, referred it to the
Budget Review Committee and scheduled a public hearing for Thursday, May 16, 2019, at 7:00 p.m.
at NHS-North Auditorium

NEW BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O-19-040
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
ESTABLISHING AN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DIVISION AND DIRECTOR POSITION
Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by
President Wilshire

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

Lori Ortolano Good evening, Lori Ortolano, 41 Berkeley Street. Just wanted to share my concerns again
about this new director position. | hope that there is more discussion about the Assessing Office itself and
getting some outside leadership in that office. | just cannot fathom or imagine promoting from within or not
having a Chief down in that office given the amount of work that’s there. | think that the Mayor's comment
on the position, replacing the Chief with this Director position, | really believe there are other positions down
there you are missing. I’m not certain why in the 3 months they haven’t been identified, but you are
definitely short in a few areas and it doesn’t seem like we would want to stay in that mode for another entire
year but maybe we missed our window.

Regarding the comments at the last week’s meeting | really want to offer this challenge out to you and the
Mayor. | become concerned when | hear the Mayor say that we are going to reevaluate in 5 years. 5
years is too long, and that what KRT did was sound, everything is equalized, it was a job well done. You
know we need to recognize that KRT did the best they could but it was a garbage in, garbage out scenario.
And if we can’t get down to understanding that the data that they used wasn’t necessarily good and
resulted in not necessarily equalized evaluations, you know, | certainly won’t be on any common ground
with this Mayor any time soon. And the case in point for that is wnat happened on Berkeley Street. And |
brought pictures to show you. Berkeley Street is the case street on why the KRT model really didn’t work.

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So our street gets modeled, they come out with all the new assessments in August and then all of a sudden
my husband and | go in and meet with KRT and we ask for our valuation to be lowered to $517,000.00
based on what was on our street; we didn’t use sales data then because we didn’t understand that. We
just looked at all these very comparable homes and we went in and we had the meeting with Ken Rogers,
the President. He offered to come to the house, he recognized the problem with our card, he was the one
who identified the sales chasing issue, thought it was that case and off we went.

The next thing you know we don’t get Ken or anyone from KRT coming to our home, it is in October that |
reach out to KRT and ask why they didn’t come and | found out then that KRT was asked by the City to go
down the street and reevaluate it again. And they picked 5 homes, so in this revaluation no one on the
street knew this was happening. So they pick 5 properties, well they went down the whole street, what |
was told after by CFO Griffin was that Rob Tozier came to my office, | gave him 55 property cards, told him
drive down your street again, this time really look and fix some stuff.

Now when the Mayor told us that KRT came in and looked at every property in this City because they gave
a visual evaluation to everything and built the model, | don’t really agree with that. It was a drive-by, it was
really a feel of the neighborhood, the concept that they looked at every house was really not the case. And
really when you think about it over maybe a four month period, | don’t think they really had the time to look
at every property, 28,000 parcels. It was really about creating a model and using the sales data to create a
model. So they got a feel of neighborhoods | think by driving through, | saw them come through my street
and they were going 10, 15 miles an hour, that’s slow, but still not enough to really be looking at every
house. So | take exception with that. | don’t think they had a good visual on every home. But when they
came down a second time, the goal of that, unknown to any of us on Berkeley Street was to get a good
visual because things weren’t right.

And so they came down and they adjusted 5 properties. And in the process of doing that, they found
another $300,000.00 of valuation that they could raise. And they gave a reason for it, they said, “The first
property we are going to change it from a Grade C to a Grade B because most of the homes on Berkeley
Street are Grade B”. The problem was that there were another 7 homes that were still Grade C and they
didn’t touch those. So out of 55 homes, 48 are Grade B, 7 were Grade C, they change one to up the
assessment $60,000.00 and they don’t look at the others that are Grade C and clearly some of them are
beautiful homes that the Grade had been done 40 years ago and no one changed. So why did they do
that? Why did those homes stay Grade C.

So | looked at that and | said “Well that’s kind of crazy” and then on the other homes they went down 13
Berkeley, 17 Berkeley, 46 Berkeley, 50 Berkeley and they raised them anywhere from $46,000.00 to
$90,000.00 a pretty good hit. And the reasons they noted on those was we’ve got to justify it, they are
being depreciated for unknown renovations. | saw that and | said, “unknown renovations’? How do you
create a valuation for something unknown. And these houses that they raised, these 5 houses, they never
went to the door, they never knocked on the door and said, “Could we come in” or “We want to evaluate
your house”. Well none of these had unknown renovations, they had all had permits pulled that were
improperly or not captured by the Assessing Department. So in my opinion they weren’t unknown at all,
you just go look at the permits, they were done.

So here’s a model that KRT made and they ran this model and they created valuation and then they come
back and they take a really good look and they go, “Hmm, there’s another $300,000.00 over here” and they
change it. And that, to me, | was actually shocked that KRT did that because it put them, in my opinion, in
a very bad position. They should have said to the City of Nashua, “Hey this is your dirty laundry, you didn’t
collect this stuff right, you go back in and knock on the door and get in the house and evaluate this stuff and
fix it, because now we’ve got to throw our model to the wind and go back and do your work”. And the thing
that killed me about their evaluation, the very first home on Berkeley Street, | brought some pictures, it was
where they started, is a very old colonial, that has fallen into disrepair, serious disrepair. So KRT starts
there and sees a house like this, when you see a house that you know you think there are parts of it you

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could put your arm through, you say “well there’s some deferred maintenance there”. | wouldn't call that a
B Grade anymore. KRT looked at this house and said, “Well that’s a B’. No. And that’s worth
$400,000.00. Ok, cool that’s fine.

But then you come right up from it, three houses up and you’ve got a beautiful, painted lady Victorian, a
little bit larger, attached two car garage, beautifully done, 8 permits and very well rated and this is
$13,000.00 grand more, with a B Grading? How can that be, how could you look at that house there and
basically give it 3% more for this house here? Next to it is a beautifully restored conventional home
wrapped in vinyl trim, new windows, very lovely done, this has a Grade C. Now what is it assessed at?
$329,000.00. That’s a really nice valuation. How can this be so low and this house that has fallen into
such disrepair be so high graded above?

All these homes are down in the block between Courtland and Laton. So land valuation is maybe 20%
lower down there. And then you come up to the block where land valuation is higher and these two homes
sit next to each other, this is a painted lady Victorian, very nicely done, a lot of exterior work, new kitchen
put in, but older, older windows, you know certainly not all restored by any means, but very nicely
maintained property and this is sitting at $410,000.00 virtually the same price as the house at 1 Berkeley
Street. The building value on this house is $250,000.00 and the building value on the first house is
$280,000.00. How can that be? This house next to it just sold. This house the exterior is definitely better
than the first one | showed you but if you walk into this house you are in 1945 and it is really 1945. And it
just sold to a young couple for $400,000.00 which was a high price and needs a lot of work but it’s hard to
believe that KRT would put this house above this house and they are right next to each other, they are right
next to each other, they are neighbors.

So | look at what KRT did on our street and | say, “that wasn’t well done”. And people have abated on
some of these changes and | think very legitimately so, | think the second go-around on some of those
houses was absolutely uncalled for. And people were irate, because once they put the change on, there
was no hearing process anymore, because it was the second go-around. And all they had left was to
abate. And you know the Assessing Office is like, “Well what is the problem their taxes went down’. The
problem is that one of these houses took an $80,000.00 hit for honestly | even don’t know why. You know?
So the model shows you right there, there is a problem with the KRT model.

Go over to Monadnock because | talked about Monadnock at the last meeting and if you just — that was an
interesting street too. That’s a street where the model fails and it’s right in the old neighborhood because
they had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 sales and three of them were in the KRT window, where KRT took the data and used
it to make their model, they captured the sales data and built their model. Cool. So a house sells for
$355,000.00, it is used to build the model and KRT spits out a price on that of $269,000.00. That is pretty
off from the sale price and that house ends up with a 76% valuation, that’s what the model did. Another
house sold within the window of their model for $232,000.00, it comes in at $200,000.00, it is at 86%
valuation. Now their goal was to be between 90 and 110. They have another one that sells for
$230,000.00; it comes in at $182,000.00 with their model, 79%. They have another one that sells outside
of the window, it sells for $522,000.00; it comes in at $489,000.00, that one hit at 94%. Everything else hit
at 81, 76, 86, 79.

So what does that tell you? Well | don’t know. | guess when | bought my house and | said, “Well we kind of
overpaid for it” and they said, “No there’s no such thing”. KRT’s model shows me all over the City there is
overbought houses. They just, they are not worth what they paid for them and the model will show you,
relative to other homes, that’s not the valuation they should have. That’s fine, I’ll accept that, let’s apply
that to everyone now when we are abating and following our rules, let’s apply it to everyone. So that is kind
of an interesting thing and so | think we have to recognize that there are limitations in the KRT model and
there are plenty of people who don’t see equity in that model. And Berkeley Street is a picture street,
Monadnock Street is another street that really puts it out there. | think we can say that they did the best
they could, it was an inherently flawed system, we don’t just want to focus on IT improvements, we want to

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focus on the actual development of the card and the modeling that we are using for that card and we want
to get rid of practices that weren’t good practices to be doing like the way we apply the median ratio and the
possibility that we were chasing some of these sales. That is important stuff. And nobody wants to
recognize it in the City but boy it is important to me.

So | get worried that every time we talk about bringing in a consultant it is KRT, you know we are
bedfellows now with them. Is there anyone else we can use? Should we look at somebody else when we
do this big, multi — you know, $1.5 million dollar contract would we even bid it? Do they now a precedent
and they are the ones that come all the time? You know | think we should expand our thinking and | think
we should look at other experts too, | think that’s a good idea. KRT, to my disappointment, when this
happened and they went down the street the second time and | called them in October and | said, “Well you
haven’t come to my house” and they said, “Well Mr. Duhamel told us you wouldn’t let us in so we never
showed up”. Of course | wanted them to come in| went to the meeting for that. So Mr. Duhamel had a
bitterness to him and made certain that KRT didn’t come to our house. So that’s when KRT said to me,
“Hey we went down your street, we took another drive by, the City asked us to do it, we drove down, we
raised 5 homes”. | said, “Well who did you lower?”. “Nobody”. How does that work, | said, “What other
streets did you go down”. “Only yours”. | said, “They didn’t ask you to go down any other streets | gave a
package, | looked at my street behind me, | looked at Concord Street, you didn’t look at any other street”?
“Nope, just yours the City said just do yours again’. That was very targeting; that was really very targeting,
that was not a great model approach.

And then when | wrote a letter to CFO Griffin and | said, “Who really authorized this? Why did we do this
and who authorized KRT to do this drive by and make these changes’ and this appears outside the scope
of work well KRT writes back, John Griffin sends them to KRT and KRT writes back to that request that the
street was reviewed along with the rest of the City during the evaluation process, the initial process. It was
reviewed a second time at the homeowner’s request during the peering process, both reviews were part of
our contract. So all of a sudden the second review was put on me. And that’s why when people on my
street called the Assessing Office and said, “Why were we evaluated again”. They were told, “Your
neighbor complained and she caused the houses to go up”. That was not right. | never had a dialogue with
KRT. | was never the one in charge of KRT. | didn’t order a second go down on the street, it is absurd. And
why would | do that and not have them come to my own home that | was trying to reduce? It was really
disappointing for me to read that. And it made me think a lot differently about KRT when | did the Right To
Know Law and pulled those minutes and saw that was how it was documented.

I’ve been spending a lot of time reading the IAAO manual and there is a nice one on Standards on Mass
Appraisal for Real Estate Property” and it talks about how important it is to value defend your numbers.
And this is the guide that everyone here throws at me constantly, the Mayor, CFO Griffin, we follow the
IAAO manual. Great: it says that the staff should also be prepared to support individual valuations as
required preferably through comparable sales. At a minimum the staff should be able to produce a property
record and explain the basic approach used to estimate the value of the property. The property owners
should never be told simply that the computer or the system produced the appraisal. In general, the staff
should tailor the explanation to the tax payer’s knowledge and expertise, equations converted to tabular
form can be used to explain the basis for valuation. We could never get anyone to explain our card or have
any information brought to us on how it was built. We never got there, we are in abatement without an
explanation. And as | read these things and these are the standards we use, | feel that we’ve got a lot of
work to do on these standards.

One last item, | didn’t realize Mr. Teeboom was going to talk about the Board of Assessor’s seat, the
alternate. And | discovered that seat had expired essentially very oddly, | just happened to be going to
Board of Assessor’s Meetings and they kept cancelling meetings. And | finally went to the Assessing
woman, clerk lady, and said, “Why are we canceling, why aren’t we calling our alternate in to keep the
meetings going” and she said “We don’t have an alternate, her seat expired a year ago”. | said, “are you
kidding me, we are not running meetings because we don’t have an alternate”. You know, ok, | could do

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