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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 11/12/2019 - P6

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Board of Aldermen 11-12-2019 Page 6

Conway Ice Rink Commission

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the reappointment of David Fredette,
229 Main Street, Nashua, to the Conway Ice Rink Commission with a term to expire December 31,
2023.

Citizen’s Advisory Commission

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the reappointments of the following
individuals to the Citizen’s Advisory Commission: Patricia Casey, 15 Pine Hill Avenue, Nashua, and
Jason Telerski, 5 Shakespeare Road, Nashua, both with terms to expire October 1, 2022; and Beth
Quarm Todgham, 14 Ellis Drive, Nashua, with a term to expire October 1, 2021.

Cultural Connections Committee

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the appointment of Jessica Gorhan,
97 Western Avenue, Henniker, to the Cultural Connections Committee with a term to expire
December 31, 2020.

Historic District Commission

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the appointment of William Slivinski,
46 Berkeley Street, Nashua, to the Historic District Commission with a term to expire June 30, 2022.

Planning Board

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the appointment of Lawrence Hirsch,
12 Salmon Brook Drive, Nashua, to the Planning Board with a term to expire March 31, 2020.

Tax Increment Financing Advisory Board

There being no objection, President Wilshire confirmed the reappointment of the following
individuals to the Tax Increment Financing Advisory Board: Michael Cerato, 4 Water Street,
Nashua; Tim Cummings, 229 Main Street, Nashua; Eric Drouart, 52 Main Street, #206, Nashua; David
Fredette, 229 Main Street, Nashua; Chris Lewis, 670 North Commercial Street, Manchester; Sarah
Marchant, 229 Main Street, Nashua; Tia Phillips, 2 Clocktower Place, Nashua; and Arthur Spilios,

15 Technology Way, Nashua, for terms to expire September 30, 2020.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-18-102
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Jan Schmidt
APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE NASHUA BOARD OF POLICE COMMISSIONERS AND UFPO LOCAL 645 PROFESSIONAL
EMPLOYEES OF THE NASHUA POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM JULY 1, 2018 THROUGH JUNE 30,
2022 AND AUTHORIZING RELATED TRANSFERS
e Tabled at BOA meeting 09/24/19 with approved amendments

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 11/12/2019 - P6

Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 11/12/2019 - P7

By dnadmin on Sun, 11/06/2022 - 22:33
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Board of Aldermen 11-12-2019 Page 7

R-19-178
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Ken Gidge
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Benjamin M. Clemons
AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF CITY LAND LOCATED AT 141-143 BURKE STREET (MAP 11, LOT
158) TO LOYAL HOLDINGS, LLC FOR $3,900,000
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-178
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-19-178 declared duly adopted.

R-19-181
Endorsers: Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
RENAMING “PARK SOCIAL AT LABINE” AS “PARK SOCIAL”
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN LOPEZ FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-19-181
MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-19-181 declared duly adopted.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O-19-056
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Ken Gidge
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman Jan Schmidt
UPDATING THE ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY COMMITTEE
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-19-056
MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-19-056 declared duly adopted.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 11/12/2019 - P8

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Board of Aldermen 11-12-2019 Page 8

O-19-063
Endorsers: Alderman Ernest Jette
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Laws
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman June Caron
Alderwoman Shoshanna Kelly
AMENDING THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED TAX EXEMPTIONS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN JETTE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-19-063
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Jette

| would like to be heard on it. What this Ordinance does is it makes some amendments to the tax
exemptions for the disabled and the elderly. This came about because a constituent of mine pointed out
that there were some differences between the two that were somewhat confusing. When | looked at the
Ordinance | noticed that for the disabled the exemption starts at $194,000 and for the elderly it starts at
$192,000.00, just a $2,000.00 difference. Also for the eligibility for the disabled, for a single person it is a
maximum income of $36,000.00; married couple $40,000.00, whereas for the elderly the maximum income
is $50,000.00 for single or a couple. Also for the maximum assets that can be held by someone applying
for the disabled exemption is $125,000.00, whereas for the elderly it is $150,000.00.

| talked to the Assessing Department and they confirm that this was confusing to people. So | thought that
making them the same, so increasing the elderly the minimum the lowest level of elderly exemption from
$192,000.00 to $194,000.00. Then on the income, the maximum income, raising the maximum income for
the disabled to $50,000.0 for a couple; the same as for the elderly, and then the maximum assets for the
disabled raising that from $125,000.00 to $150,000.00 to make it consistent.

| also noticed that the current Ordinance, so like a lot of our Ordinances this comes from State Enabling
Legislation. We can’t do anything that the State doesn’t let us do. For these exemptions the State has very
detailed rules and they are quite lengthy. Our current Ordinance when it was adopted, tried to paraphrase
these lengthy qualifications into a sentence and it left out some things and it was confusing. So people
coming in to apply for the exemptions weren’t prepared. Our Assessing Department would tell them they
have to go back and get this, that and the other thing.

So what | did, with the help of the Legal Department, is we just copied the qualifications as stated in the
State Law and put them in our Ordinance, if this passes, it will be in our Ordinance. So it will be clear to
people exactly what the qualifications are. So the Mayor's Office, the Mayor agreed that this would be a
good thing. The Administrative Services Director agreed as well and the Budget Review Committee
recommended that this be passed. So! ask you all to support it.

Alderman Dowd

We want to thank Alderman Jette for pointing out all these things and changes to this Ordinance makes it
much fairer for all involved. At first we were skeptical of what the changes were but when he explained it,
we all understood it and it fully passed Budget.

MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-19-063 declared duly adopted.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 5/5/2016 - P1

By dnadmin on Sun, 11/06/2022 - 21:35
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Minutes were comprised from Alderman Donald LeBrun’s notes as the audio was impaired.

A special meeting of the Board of Aldermen was held Thursday, May 5, 2016, at 7:00 p.m. in the
Aldermanic Chamber

President Brian S. McCarthy presided; City Clerk Patricia D. Piecuch recorded.
Prayer was offered by City Clerk Patricia D. Piecuch; Alderman Don LeBrun led in the Pledge to the Flag.

The roll call was taken with 9 members of the Board of Aldermen present; Alderman Cookson, Alderman
Deane, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Caron and Alderman Siegel were recorded absent.

Mayor James W. Donchess, Rep. Suzanne Harvey, Rep. Cindy Rosenwald, Rep. Carl Seidel, Rep. Martin
Jack, Rep. Latha Mangipudi, Rep. Kenneth Gidge, Rep. David Cote, and Senator Bette Lasky were also in
attendance.

COMMUNICATIONS

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS BE READ BY TITLE ONLY
MOTION CARRIED

From: Brian S. McCarthy, President, Board of Aldermen
Re: Special Board of Aldermen Meeting

MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION CARRIED

DISCUSSION
Board of Alderman and Nashua Delegation

President McCarthy opened the discussion on the subject of state funding of pensions. The state needs to
take a serious look at what the downshifting to Nashua causes.

Alderman Lopez stated the need for additional funds to address the opioid crisis, especially in Ward 4 which is
his ward.

Alderman Wilshire addressed Senator Lasky in reference to the status of the rail bill. Senator Lasky outlined
what has happened in the senate.

Rep. Carl Seidel explained what transpired in the Transportation Committee in the House. He referred
particularly to the Chairman of his committee being from Bartlett, NH, and has always opposed rail. The
Chairman is also the individual that brought forth the amendment at the last minute that essentially killed the
Bill in the House.

Rep. Harvey stated that the young people would stay here if they had adequate transportation.
Rep. LeBrun stated we need to sell it better. Also, look at transportation east to west as well.

The conversation shifted to the pension funding. The state reduced the funding from an initial amount of 35%
and now funds the cities and towns at 0%.

Alderman McCarthy said that we are at about 56% funding now and should be around 75%. We do not need
to continue to increase beyond that but only to sustain it at about 75% - 80%. Currently the system appears to
be about 63% according to Rep. Cote.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 11/12/2019 - P9

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Board of Aldermen 11-12-2019 Page 9
NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-19-186
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-At-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED THE
AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION FOUR HUNDRED NINETY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($1,495,000)
FOR VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT FOUR HILLS
LANDFILL AND THE PURCHASE OF TWO REFUSE TRUCKS
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE and the BOARD OF PUBLIC
WORKS by President Wilshire

R-19-187
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED THE
AMOUNT OF SIX MILLION DOLLARS ($6,000,000) FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF
A DIVISION OF PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE FACILITY
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE and the BOARD OF PUBLIC
WORKS by President Wilshire

R-19-188
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
RELATIVE TO THE TRANSFER OF $200,000 FROM DEPARTMENT 194 “CONTINGENCY”,
ACCOUNT 70112 “CONTINGENCY FOR EDUCATIONAL PRIORITIES”
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 11/12/2019 - P10

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R-19-189
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Ken Gidge
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jan Schmidt
RELATIVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF ONE ELECTRIC CAR AND
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BACKUP SERVERS FROM THE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT
RESERVE FUND (CERF) DURING FY2020
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-19-190
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Ken Gidge
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
RELATIVE TO THE TRANSFER OF $95,700 FROM DEPARTMENT #194 “CONTINGENCY”,
ACCOUNT #70100 “GENERAL CONTINGENCY” INTO VARIOUS ACCOUNTS IN DEPARTMENT
#132 “ASSESSING” FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF A
CHIEF ASSESSOR POSITION FOR THE REMAINDER OF FY2020
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-19-191
Endorser: Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Ken Gidge
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Tom Lopez
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED THE
AMOUNT OF ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN MILLION DOLLARS ($118,000,000) TO FUND
THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL AND RENOVATIONS AND
EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS (PENNICHUCK AND FAIRGROUNDS)
INCLUDING THE PAYMENT OF COSTS INCIDENTAL OR RELATED THERETO
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE and BOARD OF EDUCATION by
President Wilshire

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NEW BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O-19-064
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michel B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Ken Gidge
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Jan Schmidt
ADDING ADDITIONAL PARCELS TO THE NASHUA RIVERFRONT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
Given its first reading; assigned to the PLCANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE by
President Wilshire

Alderman Dowd

On the R-19-191 the bonding, do we not have to refer that to a public hearing? On these motions for bonds
| believe we have to, as referring them to the Budget Committee, has to have a Public Hearing on the bond
at that Budget Review Committee on December 2"?

President Wilshire

Yes.

Alderman Dowd

And | believe that requires a roll call?

President Wilshire

The Public Hearing requires a roll call?

Alderman Dowd

To send it to a Public Hearing.

Steven Bolton, Corporation Counsel

| think you should accept the First Reading by Roll Call and schedule a Public Hearing for December 2™ at
7:00 in the Aldermanic Chamber.

President Wilshire

Ok, that’s what we will do. We will accept the first reading and submit it to the Budget Review Committee
and hold a Public Hearing on December 2" by roll call.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 11/12/2019 - P12

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A viva voce roll call was taken for R-19-186 which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Gidge, Alderman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Dowd
Alderman Klee, Alderman Laws, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Caron, Alderwoman Kelly,
Alderman Jette, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja, Alderman Tencza, Alderman Schmidt,
Alderman Clemons, Alderman Wilshire 15

Nay: 0

A viva voce roll call was taken for R-19-187 first reading assignment to Budget Review Board of Public
Works and a Public Hearing scheduled at 7:00 PM on December 27, 2019 which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Gidge, Alderman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Dowd
Alderman Klee, Alderman Laws, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Caron, Alderwoman Kelly,
Alderman Jette, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja, Alderman Tencza, Alderman Schmidt,
Alderman Clemons, Alderman Wilshire 15

Nay: 0

A viva voce roll call was taken for R-19-191 accepting the first reading, assignment to the Budget Review
Committee, The Board of Education and Public Hearing at 7:00 PM on December 2"? 2019, which
resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Gidge, Alderman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Dowd
Alderman Klee, Alderman Laws, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Caron, Alderwoman Kelly,
Alderman Jette, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja, Alderman Tencza, Alderman Schmidt,
Alderman Clemons, Alderman Wilshire 15
Nay: 0

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

Laurie Ortolano Good evening, Laurie Ortolano, 41 Berkeley Street, congratulations to those who got
through their races and are back in the Chamber. | want to thank the Board for bringing forth the Resolution
to look at funding a Chief for 2020. That makes me immensely happy and | am pleased that you are
considering doing that. | will come out to the Budget Meeting and listen up when that takes place.

| want to share a little bit of information with the Board. We know that the BTLA came down with a ruling at
the end of the month, the 29" or something that they are going to keep the docket open and ask for
quarterly reports from the Assessing Office to follow-up on what is going on with the List & Measure until
we complete the update in 2022. | am very happy with that and I’m glad that’s happening. That all came
about because of the Hearing on August 6" where | presented data in a report that was fairly
comprehensive with some members of the community. The City took the position to ask for a continuation
to counter the data that was given by members of the public. | had a chance a couple weeks ago to get
ahold of that rebuttal of sorts that Celia Leonard provided to the Board up at the BTLA.

| have to tell you | was pretty underwhelmed and pretty disappointed in it because it just showed me that
this Administration does not recognize any of its errors; does not recognize the things that the public has
been addressing — permit capture, timeliness of permit valuation. You know the document harped on the
fact that I’m not an Assessor, I’m not trained, I’m not certified, | can’t make judgements on proprieties.
What | want you all to Know is while that is true it is funny to me that when | brought my assessment issue
to KRT a year ago and had the chance to go through a Hearing and | brought comparable properties in my
neighborhood that | used as examples, the City then told KRT, “Oh go down that street again and take a
look at these properties that she’s called out. | think there’s some problems”. They didn’t tell me they were
doing it, they didn’t tell my neighbors they were doing it.

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They didn’t knock on the door, they didn’t ask to go in, they didn’t ask to look at the properties. They took 5
properties that they said | identified and they raised them $350,000.00. They credit me with that maneuver,
they said “Wow Laurie, you’re so good at this, you nailed it, these houses aren’t right”. And while | may not
be an assessor and | may not be qualified, it is amazing to me how they put that on me and said “you did
the job that we needed to do, thank you”. That has proceeded to happen.

| think Ms. Leonard should be very careful about dissing the public and our qualifications because we have
an acting manager right now that is no more qualified than | am. And that has been a great source of
problem. Now one of the items that she highlighted to the BTLA was the fact that we were cherry picking.
We were cherry picking data and making it look bad when really it just represents a little bit of data. Well |
really didn’t cherry pick, | lived in a north end neighborhood and | looked at every street up there and then
branched out into other neighborhoods. What | find interesting is our past Chief two ago, Angelo Marino, is
that this name, | can’t remember, Angelo Marino. He was very much into neighborhood assessing. That
was his technique was, | guess to cherry pick throughout the City. So | started off doing that myself
because | was familiar with my neighborhood, but | looked at all the properties, | looked at 300 or 400
properties. | didn’t look at just 5 or 6 on my street, | looked at the whole north end, that’s how | ended up
discovering the Mayor’s property card.

In this Hearing Document that went to the BTLA, my issue with the Mayor’s property card had always been
that the permit was never captured in a timely manner. It was opened in 2007, it was taxed in 2012. There
was one visit in 2008 that didn’t gain entry and the assessor put no value on the permit. And the assessor
did not go to the property during the Annual List Timeframe, by April 1°. The assessor shows up a year
later in September and misses the April 1*' deadline to assess the permit; doesn’t get in, doesn’t go back,
doesn’t call, goes back 3 years later, again after the annual list of April 1*' when we should be capturing
permits, goes again in September. Then he captures the permit but it is too late to assess it in 2011
because the tax bill is closing within a month. He taxes that property in 2012. It took 5 years to put value
on that property and that is a text book example of a property mismanaged. And when the assessor goes
in he makes a determination on the card that he is going to change the EYB to 1985. But he gets back to
the office and he only changes it to 1970, 15 years less. It was 1959, so he raises it 11 years. Ms.
Leonard points out that EYB is subjective, it is. We have a huge problem with how subjective we have
been using that.

What makes one assessor determine that a house that has had the walls ripped down, the wiring and
plumbing done, new sheetrock put up, new kitchens, baths, built-in cabinetry and basically a total remodel
moved 11 years. Other houses that didn’t even do that moved 30; what is the difference on your tax bill?
On the Mayor’s tax bill it would have been $50,000.00. On my tax bill it was $160,000.00. She blows all of
that off and uses his property card in here to site as a job well done. That's when | lose faith. | lose faith
that we don’t take ownership for our mistakes; that we don’t recognize that we have done some things
wrong and we need to change the way we do those things. So reading that document that she sent to the
BTLA was wholeheartedly disappointing a week ago.

But a month ago, | started a data dig and it was interesting to me when she said | cherry pick; | don’t look at
enough data. | hadn’t read this document. | decided that | am going to take all of the sales data from
October of 2015 until KRT took the sales data of April 1°", 2017. | am taking 19 months of sales data, and |
am running a sales report and | am going to make a spread sheet. | am going to go in and | am going to
pull every property card up and | am going to pull every MLS up and | am going to look at all the qualified
sales and | am going to look at every picture and | am going to see what our assessors saw.

| created a spreadsheet of 10,000 data points, this was hand scraping, and this is why | tell you that | want
data on-line. So | scraped this data, | put it together, and | find out exactly what is going on when they
sales adjust property. Over that 19 month period, 27 homes were adjusted with their EYB. The sales guys,
the assessors looked at the data and they were very nicely done, they deserved to be adjusted. They had
a total value of $8.7 million of property sales; 27 homes. The assessors increased the assessment value
by $1.12 million. Those 27 homes saw, on average, a $2,000.00 increase in their tax bill for 2016 and 2017
until KRT came in and equalized.

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But | put together this book that | sent up to the DRA and | sent the report to the assessors today. This is
all the data that they didn’t capture, 272 qualified homes, that were very nicely done, pictures that are
beautiful, updates, granite kitchens, new baths, tiled, stainless steel appliances, lovely, lovely homes. They
didn’t get touched. What was their value? So it was 272 properties that valued $80 million. 27 properties
valued $8.7; a tenfold difference. These 272 homes saw a tax increase of $180.00 a year compared to the
27 that were totally screwed by the City and had to incur $2,000.00 a year. That’s what happened to us; |
can’t help but tell you how strongly | feel that we don’t have competent people down there.

Now | am pulling all of the 2014 data for the year. | sent this all up to the State. | said, “This is all the data,
this is everything, this is all the sales data on 1,023 properties; 821 were qualified sales”. That’s a good
take of data. They are running an accuracy rate of about 60%; the Assessing Standard Board requires that
their property data capture be at 90% or better. On this 19 month piece of data, it was about 60%; that is
horrendous. It is so unfair, I've asked you at this Board 2 or 3 times, I’ve said to the Board of Assessors,
“Shut down that MLS correcting, don’t do it, because you are really screwing people and you are not doing
it fairly”. That is what has happened here. | am mortified by this, | really am. | think that we haven't
addressed manpower, nice to see a Chief, but you have not addressed manpower issues. | am very
disappointed in the Budget Hearing | watched in September where the Ms. Kleiner and the Mayor came out
and asked for $50,000.00 because of Right to Know requests. Clemons, Tencza, Schmidt, who else is in
there, a couple others, nobody asked meaningful questions. What is your manpower to cover 2,000
permits? | pulled the work log and data for the one assessor who has been in question because | wanted
to see what is that assessor doing with permits? Not going out at all to capture permits. Why didn’t
somebody ask is everyone doing permit work? That answer would have been “no”. Instead of blaming the
public for putting forward Right to Know requests, why don’t you address your manpower and look at what
they are able to do; because you don’t have the manpower to grab these permits. Once again, people are
getting taxed on them and then there’s a whole slew that don’t get caught and they get a pass.

All of this update that goes on, is dependent on the quality of the data and how you maintain it. Outside of
an update, there’s very few things you can do. You can use sales data to correct a property card, you can
use permit data to adjust and abatements. You can occasionally go after a segment of properties that you
want to adjust but that is almost never done and | don’t know of a case where it has been done here. You
have very limited means to make changes, but you have means and you are using them so ineffectively,
inaccurately and non-uniformly that you have created a mess in your data. It is just unbelievable to me that
it took 10,000 data points and data scraping at this level to be able to prove that Celia Leonard’s position
that we are cherry picking is really not the case at all.

| do not know if the RSA’s apply to the public, | need a lawyer to answer that, but the RSA through the ASB
that puts 90% accuracy on the data. When | measure all of the sales data and | see 60%, can we do
anything about that? Can the public complain and say we are not meeting our standards? | don’t know, |
don’t know if | have any grounds. But! can tell you it is not good enough. In 2014 you only had 400
property sales. You are asking two assessors to each correct 1 home a day four times a week, not even all
week. You’re not capturing that data, what is the excuse? It’s not like they’re bombed, it’s not like they are
busy with thousands of property sales; it was a slow economy and we didn’t capture the data. | had to pay
$5,000.00 more but a lot of houses didn't.

President Wilshire

Ms. Ortolano, one minute for public comment, thank you.
Ms. Ortolano |’m all set, thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you.

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