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Now that is in effect been offered aside from the contract but it is not currently in the expired contract and
the veto would take it out of this contract. What would stay is the same situation vis-a-vis health plans as
had been for the last several years the case that it’s the choice between the HMO Plan, the POS Plan or
the High Deductible Plan. The cost of living adjustments or annual wage increases except for those that
are contingent on percentage of firefighters taking the high deductible plan; those wage increases would be
there. The firefighters would then have the option, the Union would have the option of accepting that
contract as is or going back and negotiating further. | believe the Mayor has indicated that if further
negotiations were to take place, he would find acceptable that additional 1% in exchange for the Union
accepting the plan that makes changes to the HMO co-pays and deductibles and puts into the contract the
incentive payments for the high deductible plan. So it’s possible that would be negotiated and the entire
wage increase would be realized. Long explanation, | hope I’ve made sense.

Alderman Schmidt

It helped thank you. Someone mentioned a sidebar agreement. Is that something that we could do without
having to veto this portion of the contract?

Attorney Bolton

No. But! don’t know exactly what it is you’re speaking of. What is often referred to as a sidebar
agreement, supplementary agreement, when you have a collective bargaining agreement in effect, but
circumstances arises where you want to deal with a smaller portion of the employer/employee relationship
by a separate usually much smaller and discreet agreement, that’s often called a sidebar. At this stage it is
possible for the Board of Aldermen to amend its Resolution approving the cost items. So you could
approve some of them, all of them, you could state your position that you approve some of them, others
you don’t approve of in their current form, but you would approve if they were altered in certain ways and
those ways would be what you all agreed on. And again, the Union would have the option of accepting that
or going back and continuing to negotiate.

Alderman Schmidt

So at this point, unless we delay this vote until two weeks from now, unless we delay this vote, it is stand
up for the veto or pass it as itis. Those are the only choices we have at this point. | can’t have any input
from the fire union that could tell me that they would be willing to negotiate something like that?

Attorney Bolton

It would be outside of the normal procedure of this Board but | suppose if the Board wanted to hear
something from those members of the Union or those Union Officials, which are here, that would be up to
the Board. As | said, you do have the option of making an amendment to the Resolution that you passed
and the Mayor vetoed in part. | agree with you or | think | agree with your sense that it would be difficult for
you to do that. | also think it’s sort of difficult to try to have the Board of Aldermen undertake negotiations
with the Fire Union in this forum.

Alderman Schmidt
Thank you.
President Wilshire

You're all set Alderman Schmidt?

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Alderman Schmidt

No, not really. Would it be possible for someone who was in the negotiating team with the Fire Union to
speak to my question or is that right out at this point?

President Wilshire
Without objection from the Board, we could do that. No one objects to that? We could ask Chief Rhodes?

Chief Rhodes, Nashua Fire Department

Good evening, | think to that question president Wholey is here. And to all due respect to President Wholey
he would be best to answer that question and if you would indulge him a little bit. Tom has been thrust into
this position fairly recently back in July. So the procedure may be a little off but | think if you would allow
Tom to speak to this, | think he could shed some light on the subject.

President Wilshire

Mr. Wholey?

Mr. Wholey

Good evening Madam Chair, Board of Aldermen. | hope | can speak on the subject again. If | can just
answer question is that what we are looking for?

President Wilshire

Yes.

Mr. Wholey

Ok so it is a cohesive document, this Collective Bargaining Agreement, so if you shoot down an item at this
time, it needs to go back to the table. When you come to the CBA like this, we have members that could
have voted on any provision inside that contract and we can’t say if the majority of our Union wanted that
incentive or that line item. I’ve talked to our legal side, our legal attorney, he said it’s a cohesive document
like | repeated and it is not divisible by Law. We will go back to the bargaining table, I’ve expressed that as
my concern, | took over as Union President in July and it is now December and | stand before you, looking
to get this contract passed. So that’s our stance the International Association of Firefighters, our third
district president who represents New England has been in touch with Washington and if they found that
this way going on and we are stepping outside of Collective Bargaining which is our right, then they will
step in too. So | just want to stress that it’s not an option.

President Wilshire

Alderman Tencza?

Alderman Tencza

Thank you, Madam President. And | would hope and maybe Corporation Counsel can clarify this, is this

something that we have to vote on tonight or else the Mayor’s veto stands so essentially if we don’t vote on
it tonight this provision will be annexed from the contract right now, correct?

Attorney Bolton

You could table it and take it up at your next meeting.

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Alderman Tencza

Ok, | guess | would be opposed to trying to negotiate directly with the firefighters on this issue. As was
brought up in public comment, they have been negotiating since August of 2019 on this issue. The
firefighters have clearly put a lot of thought into this because they came up with a plan that they felt worked
best for their union and quite frankly if their union, well — you know our City is the great City that it is
because of the employees that we have working for us. The firefighters as was mentioned earlier in the
past have had difficulties with concessions that they’ve made with regard to healthcare. This is not
something that was overlooked | think by either side. It’s something that they negotiated for, | think it would
be unfair to them and | think that they would absolutely go back and have to re-think the entire contract for
a third time now, if we don’t override the Mayor's veto.

| understand the difficult position that the Mayor is in, trying to get all of — we’re all in quite frankly because
any of the Collective Bargaining Agreements going forward are going to come before us for review. But
this contract, in particular, because it’s been so long because the firefighters and the Fire Commission have
put a lot of effort and thought into ways that they could try to help reduce healthcare costs while making
sure that the unique circumstances of the Fire Department are cared for and thought of through their
healthcare choices. | think we really owe it to them tonight to put this whole process to rest. Unfortunately
they are going to be back before us sooner rather than later because they are already into year 2 of this
contract. So the Fire Commission and the Firefighters will have to start negotiating again probably around
next year. This is something that can be corrected then, the same time that we will have to be looking at all
of the other Unions that are coming before us. So | ask that we please override this tonight and let’s move
forward and move on to the other business that we have to take care of as a City. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Alderman Lopez?

Alderman Lopez

| agree with most of what Alderman Tencza has said and | would just like to clarify to my fellow Aldermen, |
misinterpreted what the original motion so | voted exactly opposite of what | intended to. But the motion
passed and we are having a discussion so | am glad that we are doing that. | think that to Alderman
Tencza’s point, negotiations have dragged on. | think there is every opportunity for the City’s negotiating
team and the Mayor to make it clear what they were looking for. | think that negotiation is two way and two
sides and | believe the Fire Department has done what they can to try to accommodate what the City’s
needs are, in the context of what our current COVID-19 crisis is and in the context of what they need to do
for their firefighters. | think it’s important to remember, comments were made earlier in public comment
about taxpayers versus firefighters that firefighters are taxpayers, they are our constituents and they are
struggling with COVID-19 as much as anyone else is. We have a number of firefighters who are in isolation
because of COVID-19 because they face a higher level of exposure. This is a difficult time for many people
financially but it’s also a higher time of risk for many industries that don’t have any alternatives with regards
to working from home or taking other precautions.

You are a firefighter, you respond to the fire. You are responding to people who are in need of first aid.
You are responding to all manners of crisis and | think it’s important that we recognize that. So as was
pointed out earlier, this has dragged on to the point where we can include items of a bargaining point in our
next negotiation but | really think we need to move this forward and recognize what our firefighters have
done. | was opposed to it in their initial presentation because | was concerned about revenue generating
and how taxes were being spent. | have attended the Budget Meetings and | have been looking at how our
spending is taking place and if there is going to be savings, or if there are going to be cuts made for the, to
make sure that we don’t overload the taxpayer’s money; | don’t think it needs to come from the firefighters. |
think there are other areas we can look and | think it’s important that we do that.

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The firefighters have negotiated in good faith, the City has negotiated in good faith and | think it’s time that
we, as Aldermen, continue to do our jobs and uphold the decision that we’ve already made.

President Wilshire

Thank you Alderman Lopez. Alderman Cleaver.

Alderman Cleaver

Yes thank you. This is way past due and this is the second time, this is the second contract. In my mind is
not divisible it was negotiated as a package it should remain as a package. It has strong support from the
Board of Fire Commissioners, each member and strong support from the Union itself, of course. And |
think it has strong support from the Board of Aldermen, | hope. And it’s time to move it along and give them
what they deserve. So | strongly urge my fellow members to override this veto.

President Wilshire

Alderman Jette?

Alderman Jette

Thank you, Madam President. I’ve got a couple of things I'd like to talk about. First of all, Commissioner
Garant said some things about the Mayor and the Administration, the Finance Department, you know, that
the Mayor was misleading us. | see that Director Kleiner is on the line and she participated in that and |
would like to ask her to respond to what Commissioner Garant said.

President Wilshire

Director Kleiner do you wish to respond?

Kim Kleiner, Director of Administrative Services

Yes, Madam President. Thank you very much. Mayor Donchess, Cheryl Lindner, |, Attorney Clarke, did
attend a session with the Board of Fire Commissioners. The intent of that conversation was strictly to alert
the Fire Commission to our concerns about healthcare. Never during that conversation was there any
mention of giving any type of financial consideration for members switching to the high deductible health
plan. Back in March when the City looked at the cost and it was determined that we needed to start to
mitigate some of these costs, we developed with our consultants a very in-depth plan, looking across the
City, looking at all labor groups on how to do that. And clearly it was decided considering our consultant’s
advice to move forward with the redesign on the HMO. And that is the only financial considerations that the
City has looked at and it’s with very good reason. It is not the advice of our consultant to offer financial
considerations for the high deductible health plan.

President Wilshire
All set, Alderman Jette?
Alderman Jette

| have another comment. Commissioner Garant also called me out for saying that firefighters, that a new
firefighter right out of high school could start at $50,000.00 without any training and | did say that at the last
meeting. And he’s right, | was wrong when | said that. Alderman Klee said she thought that firefighters had
to be certified and so after the meeting | did look into that, | talked to Chief Rhodes and | found out that I’m
not sure about this, | don’t think it’s a State Law that firefighters have to be certified before they start
employment, but in fact in Nashua, Chief Rhodes told me that we don’t hire anyone who is less than a

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firefighter certified Il. So | was mistaken and | apologize for that. | said that based upon the appendix that
was attached to the CBA that shows grades of firefighter, you know starting at Grade 100 firefighter and
then firefighter certified number one goes to the 111 level and then firefighter certified number two is at the
200 level, | think, if | remember correctly.

So Chief Rhodes told me that we don’t hire anybody at less than a Firefighter Certified Il. So those first two
levels of pay on those schedules evidently are not applicable. They are not used. He told me that a
beginning firefighter has to be certified and at level II but they do start at the lowest grade so they start at
the lowest pay but after 9 months’ probation, they then go to Grade 221 which is the Certified II Level. So
they start a little less than $50,000.00 but after 9 months they jump up to if | read these schedules correctly,
$53,568.00 and that’s without considering any overtime. You know the statements that people make, I’ve
heard them from constituents and my fellow Aldermen who have the opinion that the firefighters deserve
every penny and that’s their opinion and | respect that.

As an Alderman, | am responsible to the taxpayers and | think, | agree that firefighters ought to be paid an
appropriate amount. But I’ve said ever since we started talking about these Collective Bargaining
Agreements that it looks to me like the Nashua Fire Department is among the best paid, if not the best paid
fire department in the area. So to think that our firefighters are not being paid fairly, that they are being
underpaid, as far as | can tell, that’s not true. And I’ve invited the Firefighters, I’ve invited the Fire
Commissioners to get in touch with me and show me that I’m wrong about that and no one has. | did ask
CFO Griffin you know what actually are we paying our people? And according to the information he
provided me, the lowest paid firefighter right now is getting around, including overtime is getting close to
$70,000.00 that’s the lowest man on the Fire Department. The highest and I’m not talking about the Chief
or the Deputy Chiefs, but the highest is $147,862. According to CFO Griffin the average firefighter and
these are not the Lieutenants or the Captains, the average firefighter is making $86,174.00. The average
Captain is making $119,921.00.

| don’t think we are underpaying our Firefighters, | believe we should keep up with the times, they are
certainly entitled to cost of living increases. But the cost of living increases have been averaging 2% or less
over the past 5 years. In this contract, in addition, you know this contract is paying over 10% over four
years so that’s 2 %2% average but something that | haven’t heard a lot of people talk about is built into the
Collective Bargaining Agreement, or in addition to the cost of living increases, are increases in the steps.
Adjustments to the steps — effective July 1* 2021 there’s a 3% increase to the steps. You know, these
steps are labeled 10 not 15 so people who have 10 to 14 years’ experience are going to get a 3% increase
in addition to the cost of living increase. And then all the steps above that get a 1% increase to make sure
that all the steps stay 1% above the lower step. So built into this thing are in addition to cost of living
increases, adjustments to the steps.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and | respect everybody else’s opinion, but as far as | can tell, our
firefighters are well paid, they deserve to keep up with the times, they deserve to get a cost of living
increase, but | don’t think we can afford these other increases and certainly for them to get in addition to all
of that, additional increases for converting to the high deductible plan, seems inappropriate. And I’ve heard
some people say that their HMO’s should not be taken away from them. | don’t think that any of these
proposals for any of these Unions are talking about taking the Point of Service Plans or the HMO plans.
There is some adjustment to it. But what the City is trying to do is incentivize people to convert to the high
deductible plan and that incentive is by paying them the increased amounts that Director Kleiner has
explained to us which goes into their health care savings plan. So | apologize for the length of my remarks,
| apologize to the people who disagree with me on this, you know, | respect your opinions but | am going to
vote to sustain the Mayor’s Veto.

President Wilshire

Alderman Tencza?

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Alderman Tencza

Madam President, just | guess a point of order, if we could — the Mayor’s Veto only pertains to the clause
regarding the healthcare. | don’t think it behooves any of us to relitigate this whole thing and talk about the
wages. | respect Alderman Jette’s opinion, he has stated it and | think we all understand it but going
forward | think it may make sense if we can focus debate on the issue of healthcare. Thank you.
President Wilshire

Thank you. Alderman Gathright?

Alderman Harriott-Gathright

| just want to say | thank former Mayor Davidson for being here and giving us a little history of the fire
department and the many contracts that have come before the City of Nashua even before our time,
because most of us are fairly new to the Board within the last four years anyway. | appreciate that and |
appreciate the conversation from Paul as well. | am going to vote for this contract. | do believe, not
necessarily that it is deserved, but | have seen and heard so many conversations where the contracts are
always failing, they are always behind 2, 3 years or something of that nature. That should never happen
especially if you are working with your Union Representative to help work those things out. And | did get an
opportunity to speak to Mr. Wholey for a while and | really appreciate the conversation that we had. And so
| am going to vote for the contract to undo the veto.

President Wilshire
Thank you. Anyone else? Alderman Dowd?
Alderman Dowd

Yes | just want to bring up a couple random points just for historical — the contract before this one that the
firemen signed up to, they took a health care concession and took 1 year of zero increases. And then the
City offered another large bargaining unit, something completely different and that’s why they are hesitant
to be the first one out of the shoot on this health plan. As was stated they will be probably committed to this
health plan on their next contract. This health plan change came well after the contract negotiations
started. So we are asking them to change course. Also, when they came before us the first time, we did
not approve the contract and the Budget Committee and the Board of Aldermen asked them to reduce the
impact to FY 19 and FY 20 or 20 and 21, because of the funding issue. They came before us after the first
year of the contract had already passed and we would have had to go find money to put back in that
budget. And there was a certain amount of money put forward for negotiations in this year’s budget and
the way the contract is written right now, those first two years of the contract aren’t increasing any
additional spending to the City, that money is in contingency; it’s already there.

And they did a good job in that. And when they did that, because | voted against it the first time, |
committed that, OK, you’ve done what we’ve asked you to do and | said I’d support them. And | am not
going to change my word on that, | am going to support them. | would prefer at some point if they want to
do a sidebar later and switch the wording and take the health plan, possibly after one of the large Unions
already signs up, and | think we can save some money. °22 is going to be the bad year and it’s driven
predominately by the State no matter what anybody says. If you look at the numbers it is the State that is
spending money and putting it down on property taxes. And all the cities and towns, especially in the
southern tier have all said that lately. The municipal association is also saying, hey you can’t keep doing
that.

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I’m not going to into each one of them because | know that in ’22 the School numbers will change because
with a vaccine now, all of those students will be back. The Free & Reduced Lunch will go up again and we
won't get hit with a $6 million dollar issue. The 16% in the next year of the cost of this contract is the
additional monies demanded by the State for pensions. People might not know it, the State Pension Plan
and reiterate the State Pension Plan pays Zero towards pensions including their own people. They started
at paying 35% and they worked their way down and they went to Zero. This $4 million dollar increase is
because they don’t feel they are going to earn the interest that they had been earning in the past. | find that
hard to believe with the stock market being higher than it has ever been. But | think at some point we need
to have those people back in front of us from the Pension Board and find out what’s going on. But | am not
going to hold the State sending all these bills down to us against the firefighters. They risk their lives on a
daily basis, so do the Police. But the firemen probably have more fires than drastic police action and the
chemicals that get used in fires and the things that are burning in the fires are health hazards for them. And
we always remarked from 911 the firemen are the people that are running into the fire building, not out.

So if you average the last 8 years including this contract and the one before, the actual raises are
reasonable for the work that they do and the professionalism that they show and the numbers of lives that
they have saved. They also stepped to plate on Safe Stations and got nothing for it and they were dealing
with people that had drug problems, we didn’t pay them anything for that. And they weren’t asking for it,
but it’s something to consider when they are negotiating their new contract. So | am going to vote to
override the veto. | hope that at some point before the next contract, we can get them on board with the
regular health plan. But we are in a box right now and that’s where we are at. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Alderwoman Lu?

Alderwoman Lu

Thank you. | just want to point out that | believe that Mayor Donchess is pointing out an obviously really
poor policy in the increasing, giving a step increase or whatever you want to call it if the Department has
70% buy in. He’s exactly right, we are incentivizing them to get 70% buy in for 2 years so that they can
enjoy a 1% raise in salary and pension until they retire. It's not good for the City, it is very poor finance for
the City of Nashua. | also don’t think it is good policy because your choice among the three choices, the
health care choices is very personal. It’s very individual, it depends on, a high deductible plan is not for
everyone. It’s not a good choice for everyone. But you are going to have peers putting pressure among
themselves to get that percentage in there and that’s not what we want to do with people making their
healthcare choices. So | think it’s financially and of policy a really bad element of this contract. And |
support the Mayor for that reason. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Further discussion on this motion to override the Mayor’s Veto? Yes?

Alderman Schmidt

Madam President, may I? Thank you.

President Wilshire

Oh Alderman Schmidt, | wasn’t sure who it was.

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Alderman Schmidt
At this point, people are asking me to agree with the Mayor, many people asking me to agree with the
Mayor, not to not pay a raise to these wonderful people who take care of us, they saved my neighbor’s life
one day. | was here, | watched it, it was amazing. That’s not the point. The point is healthcare, healthcare
insurance. | would ask if we can table this and | can have two weeks to see what can | understand in this.
So | move to table.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SCHMIDT TO TABLE BY ROLL CALL
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt 3
Nay: Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron,

Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza,

Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver,

Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 10
Abstain: Alderman O’Brien 1
MOTION FAILED
President Wilshire

And that Motion fails. The Motion before us is to override the Mayor's veto as amended. Further
discussion on that motion? Alderman Dowd?

Alderman Dowd

Yes, | just want to make sure that the motion is articulated and is clear as to what we are voting on so that
everybody is clear on which way to go.

President Wilshire

OK, so a yes vote would be to override the Mayor’s Veto, a no vote would be to go along with the Mayor’s
Veto.

Alderman Dowd
Thank you.
President Wilshire

Anything further? Seeing none, would the Clerk please call the roll? Sorry excuse me, | didn’t see you
Alderman Kelly.

Alderwoman Kelly

That’s OK, sorry about that. I'll keep it brief, | just wanted to say that | am going to vote to override the
Mayor's Veto here. | think that the firefighters have negotiated in good faith multiple times. We have asked
them to go back and look at it the last time in terms of affordability and they did that and | think we need to
move this forward.

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| also had a conversation with President Wholey and not only are our actions important from a perspective
of the City and being fiscally responsible but also morale for our firefighters, letting them know that we do
support the good work that they do and that their Union is doing appropriate negotiating on their behalf. So
it’s time to move this forward and | know a lot of people have said the same things but | just wanted to
make sure | weighed in. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you. Alderman Clemons?

Alderman Clemons

| just want to reiterate the same message that Alderwoman Kelly just expressed, | agree 100%.

President Wilshire

As do |. Anything further? Seeing none, would the Clerk please call the roll?

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron,

Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza,
Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver,

Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 10
Nay: Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt 3
Abstain: Alderman O’Brien 1

MOTION CARRIED
Mayor's Veto of R-20-088 as amended declared overridden.
Resolution R-20-088, as Amended declared duly adopted.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES - None

NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS

R-20-100
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
RELATIVE TO THE RESCINDING OF AUTHORIZED UNISSUED DEBT
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Wilshire

R-20-101
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman Skip Cleaver
AUTHORIZING RELEASE OF CERTAIN PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY EASEMENTS
Given its first reading; assigned to the COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE by President Wilshire

Board of Aldermen 12-08-2020 Page 31

NEW BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

0-20-40
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
INCREASING SEWER USE FEES RATES AND CHARGES

Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE and the
NASHUA BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS by President Wilshire

0-20-41
Endorser: Mayor Jim Donchess
AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER ORDINANCE

Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by
President Wilshire

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

Beth Scaer I'd like to comment, it’s Beth Scaer.
President Wilshire

OK.

Beth Scaer_ Hi, | just wanted to ...

President Wilshire

Can we address for the record, please?

Beth Scaer Yeah 111 East Hobart Street.
President Wilshire

Thank you.

Beth Scaer And | just wanted to talk again about my Save Women’s Sports Flag. Alderman Jan Schmidt
and Mayor Donchess had it removed from the Citizen Flag Pole. And | wanted to remind everyone that this is
an important issue that everyone should understand that women’s sports are being taken away, men are
being allowed to compete. The Mayor and Alderman Schmidt support this effort to take away women’s
sports. When the Olympics come next year you will see it first hand, up close, much bigger, stronger men
competing in Women’s Sports, taking away their awards. And you can visit save women’s sports . com to
learn more. Thank you.

President Wilshire
Thank you. Anyone else wishing to give public comment? Name and address for the record, please?

Gia Bonilla 5 Hopi Drive and | am also the Director of Events and Partnerships at Boston Billiard Club and
Casino. So | appreciate everybody’s time. | actually want to speak on something not on your Agenda today
but | think it might come up soon. Tomorrow the Board of Health will have a meeting about a possible curfew.
It is very concerning to us as a business to all of Nashua’s Hospitality Businesses; | think it would be very
detrimental to infiltrate a curfew. | think more of our local businesses will close. | think to try to handle it ona
city level opposed to state, | mean people just drive to Manchester. We will lose a lot of business, we are a
charitable gaming operation as well so we have organizations like the Nashua Fire Relief, the Family Promise
of Greater Nashua, the Nashua Police Patrolmen is coming up to benefit this month.