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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 12/28/2021 - P26

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The Planning and Economic Development Committee - they only had four members in attendance. One of them
abstained and the vote was 2 to 1. So it was not a unanimous vote there either. So | appreciate and | agree with you that
work should be done in the committee and we ought to respect the committee's work but we still have a right to look at it.
We don't have to accept what they vote, especially a close vote like that at the Planning and Economic Development
Committee meeting.

If | could ask another question of Corporation Counsel. The ordinance that we're looking at says that the Mayor is hereby
authorized to purchase the property located 15 Bartlett Avenue, Tax Map 57, Lot 3 on terms and conditions and for such
purchase price as determined by the Mayor with the purchase price not to exceed $2,500,000; and then further resolved
that the Corporation Counsel prepare all the necessary documents, etc. So does this mean that if the Mayor is able to
reach a deal to purchase this property for less than $2,500,000 and he somehow comes up with the funding from the
budget without requiring a new bond that he could do that without coming back to the Board of Aldermen or does this
ordinance require him to come back to the Board of Aldermen for approval?

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

Well, it's a resolution not an ordinance.
Alderman Jette
You're correct, sorry.

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

But | don't fully understand what you mean by come up with the money in the budget. This is not in the budget as far as |
know currently. At least it's not been identified as being in the budget anywhere. If it was going to be a transfer of funds,
that would require action by this Board. If it was going to be added to the budget as an additional appropriation, that
would require action by this Board. Now you might have to do that if the Mayor were to enter into an agreement and bind
the city, which this gives them the authorization to do, but you've heard him say tonight that he wouldn't do that without
including a contingency that this Board would have to authorize the expenditure in some manner. So that's what the
Mayor said.

Alderman Jette

Madam President, | would | would like to make an amendment to add after the first paragraph, “subject to final approval
by the Board of Aldermen’.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN JETTE TO AMEND BY ADDING AFTER THE FIRST PARAGRQAPH “SUBJECT TO FINAL
APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Lopez

Doesn't that potentially undermine the purpose of passing this at all because the idea to indicate an authorized person
and by amending it for the person that has to consult with 15 others they're not authorized?

President Wilshire

I’m not sure what your question actually is.

Alderman Lopez

Well I'm pointing out that if we make it subject to the Board of Aldermen in the manner that's being suggested, it
undermines the idea of having the Mayor be able to enter into that negotiation phase because he can't promise anything if
it still has to go through the Board of Aldermen in that particular way. If he can at least negotiate the purchase and then
has to on his own side make sure that there's funding available or a strategy for it, at least he can approach the potential
seller with that position.

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 12/28/2021 - P27

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Alderman Clemons

Thank you, Madam President. | actually support this amendment and I'll explain why. | support it because | believe that it
basically encaptures the spirit of what we're trying to do and what has been laid out tonight, at least by myself anyway.
Essentially what we want to do is to have this go forward, and be negotiated, and see what we can come up with. | think
multiple speakers have said that this evening. | think what Corporation Counsel was trying to say was that, you know, any
appropriation would be subject to an act by the Board of Aldermen, but that the Mayor could potentially bind the city into
an agreement. Now, | don't think the Mayor would do that but this amendment just kind of tidies that up. So | have no
problem with the amendment and I’m fully in support of it. | think it keeps the spirit of the legislation alive and really, it just
kind of encapsulates what we're trying to do.

Alderman Klee

Thank you, Madam President. | actually agree with both Alderman Lopez and Alderman Clemons. | understand people's
anxiety of thinking that the Mayor would bind the city. He has not said he wouldn't but then if he does, what is the
recourse? So | do understand that anxiety. | would love to just be clean and allow the Mayor to negotiate up to a certain
amount pending approval of the amount. So while | would prefer it to be as it was, | will support the amendment.

| don't know if | can say this, but your comment Alderman Jette about the Planning Board and the PEDC. | had written a
note because that's exactly what | was going to say about the membership that that was there. | do believe that we still
talked it so you watched. | did answer all their questions. As to the property, we did not discuss the price of it but one of
the things that they did state was that it was within the Master Plan keeping with the, | believe they said with the spirit of
the Master Plan, and what they had to do. They did say the Master Plan did also discuss housing and so on, but they felt
that this was equal or surpass that so. | just also wanted to get that out on the open.

While | would prefer not to have this amendment, I'm happy to support it. | don't believe that it will change anybody's mind
here. | think everybody's mind is more or less made up as to how they want to vote on it but | do think that it's an olive
branch so to speak. Yes, | will support it.

Alderman O’Brien

Thank you, Madam President. | rise for a parliamentary inquiry. Where this has $1 amount potentially $2.5 million is the
cap, would just require a 10 member vote?

Alderman Klee
If it's bonded.

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

| guess I'm not following. Why would it?

Alderman O’Brien

Well | think if | can further explain to Corporate Counsel, whenever we vote on these type of things we usually go with
financial matters that we need to have the super majority of the 10 whenever we look at the project. I'm just wondering
where this could affect a budget, would that come under a 10 vote rule?

Steve Bolton, Corporation Counsel

If you're talking about a supplemental appropriation, this does not supplementally appropriate any funds.

Alderman O’Brien

Okay, thank you for your clarification.

President Wilshire

The motion is to amend. Further discussion on that motion?

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Alderman Harriott-Gathright

| don't think it's on that. It was on something else. That's okay.
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd,

Alderman Caron, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez, Alderwoman Lu,
Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver,

Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 14
Nay: 0
Abstained: Alderman Tencza 1

MOTION CARRIED
Alderman Klee

The comment that | want to make is that from the beginning, this portion was just to authorize the Mayor to be able to do
it. | think the 2.5 that was put in there not to exceed was because that was a request of the bond. My hope from the
beginning is that it would always be less than that. That's why that dollar figure was put into to this - the not to exceed on
it. So | just want to make that clear that we're not giving - from the beginning, when we're not authorizing the Mayor to
take $2.5 million and going to buy this property. We still would have had to have a two thirds vote on a bond of some sort.
So we would have needed the 10 on that. | believe this is just a need of a simple majority and so on.

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-21-203 AS AMENDED, BY ROLL CALL

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Harriott-Gathright

| just want for those - there was a memorandum that came out from the Planning Department Manager and their vote was
5 to 1 in favor of the recommendation. That's it.

President Wilshire

Okay. Further discussion? Motion is for final passage as amended. Will the Clerk please call the roll?
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman Klee, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez,
Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver,

Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 10
Nay: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron, Alderwoman Lu 4
Abstained: Alderman Tencza 1

MOTION CARRIED

Resolution R-21-203 declared duly adopted as amended.

R-21-143
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Jan Schmidt

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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 12/28/2021 - P29

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PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CHARTER RELATIVE TO THE MANNER OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE
NASHUA BOARD OF POLICE COMMISSIONERS
e Tabled at Board of Aldermen August 10" meeting

UNFINISHED BUSINESS — ORDINANCES

O-21-073
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderwoman-at-Large Shoshanna Kelly
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Thomas Lopez
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderwoman Elizabeth Lu
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
AMENDING THE INCLUSIONARY ZONING SUPPLEMENTAL USE REGULATIONS
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN TENCZA FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-21-073, BY ROLL CALL

ON THE QUESTION

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you President Wilshire. I'll keep it brief. | think that a lot of the constituents who spoke earlier really hit the nail on
the head in terms of how many people are coming together to get this piece in front of us with our Affordable Housing
Trust Fund. We really can start to make some headway with this and it's step one of a bigger plan to continue to increase
the affordable housing. So | Know all of you've heard me talk about this a lot and | appreciate everyone who's worked on
it, but | just wanted to say I'm excited that it's here and | really hope that everyone's.

Alderman Klee

Thank you, Madam President. | want to echo Alderwoman Kelly's words. | think this is a good plan. | think it's a win for
everybody. It doesn't hurt anybody. It keeps everybody whole. | know that Alderwoman Kelly has worked hard to
educate people and so on on this and as have many of my Board members such as Alderwoman Schmidt, and
Alderwomen Harriott-Gathright, etc. | think it's important. | think this will pass with flying colors and I'm happy to have
been one of the endorsers.

Alderman Lopez

| just want to echo my support for this legislation. It is long overdue and the longer my speeches, the more it will be
overdue so | am shutting my mouth.

Alderman Schmidt

| would just like to thank all the citizens that came forward to talk about this. This was wonderful. Without your input, it
might not have happened. You've made a difference to this city and | really, really want to thank you.

President Wilshire

Further discussion? | myself think this is a great move forward. It's long overdue and something that the city really needs.
Okay, motion is for final passage of Ordinance 0-21-73. Would the Clerk please call the roll?

A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd,

Alderman Caron, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza,
Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Laws,

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Alderman Cleaver, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 15

Nay: 0

MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-21-073 declared duly adopted.

O-21-076
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman-at-Large Brandon Michael Laws
Alderman Skip Cleaver
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
RELATIVE TO SEASONAL ROAD CLOSURES AND ELIMINATION OF CERTAIN ON-STREET PARKING FOR
USE BY RESTAURANTS FOR OUTDOOR DINING
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN O’BRIEN TO TABLE O-21-076, BY ROLL CALL
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd,
Alderman Caron, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza,
Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Laws,
Alderman Cleaver, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 15

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-21-076 declared tabled.

O-21-081
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess

Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman Skip Cleaver
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright

RELATIVE TO THE REVISION OF WARD BOUNDARIES

e Tabled at 12/14/21 BOA meeting

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CARON TO TAKE FROM THE TABLE O-21-081, BY ROLL CALL
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd,
Alderman Caron, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza,
Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Laws,
Alderman Cleaver, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 15

Nay: 0

MOTION CARRIED

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O-21-081
Endorsers: Mayor Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large Michael B. O’Brien, Sr.
Alderman Patricia Klee
Alderman Jan Schmidt
Alderman Skip Cleaver
Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright
RELATIVE TO THE REVISION OF WARD BOUNDARIES
Given its second reading;

MOTION BY ALDERMAN CARON FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-21-081 AS AMENDED, BY ROLL CALL

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Jette
Have we amended it?

President Wilshire

Yes. Oh, no we haven't amended it.

Susan Lovering, City Clerk

We did at a previous meeting.

President Wilshire

Oh, at a previous meeting we amended it. Okay.
Alderman Jette
Then we had a public hearing. Thank you.

President Wilshire

All right. Motion is for final passage as amended. Discussion? Seeing none, would the Clerk please call the roll?
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:

Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd,
Alderman Caron, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza,
Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Laws,
Alderman Cleaver, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 15

Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED

Ordinance O-21-081 declared duly adopted as amended.

O-21-082
Endorsers: Alderwoman Elizabeth Lu
Alderman-at-Large David C. Tencza
Alderman Thomas Lopez
REQUIRING LEGISLATION AND RELATED INFORAMTION TO BE AVAILALBLE
e Tabled at BOA mtg of 12/14/21

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MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN LU TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE O-21-082, BY ROLL CALL
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman Clemons, Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza, Alderwoman Lu,
Alderman Jette, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver,

Alderman Wilshire 9

Nay: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd,
Alderman Caron, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright 6

MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN LU FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-21-082, BY ROLL CALL

ON THE QUESTION

Alderwoman Lu

Thank you. We all received a correspondence from Miss Graham on this and | understand that this arrangement that we
had has become more work than is feasible, particularly as we lost, | believe, a part-time staff member in the Legislative
office. | I'm hoping that all of you had a chance to take a look and see what it was that Miss Graham was doing as a result
of the meeting that we had for 12 months.

As you can see if you look at any piece of legislation during that time, it was easy to go to the legislation and then find out
where to look for any of the background on the discussions. | can't tell you how difficult it was for me when we were
discussing the Charter change and when | was very - when my question about the need to declare it necessary was told
that it had to be done immediately. It took me hours to look at other Charter changes. It's not easy because these
Charter changes - this legislation you only know when they passed. You don't know when they were introduced. Some of
them are introduced eight months before. This is really, really valuable. It's valuable for a resident who cares about, you
know, the history of the legislation or the legislation itself. It's easy for us because we have a system and assistant who
helps with our research but it's not easy for anyone else.

| implore Mayor Donchess to fully staff the legislative office, so that this could continue. It was only by looking back at
prior legislation and being able to identify, which was time consuming, the minutes that | had to go to that | learned that in
fact, it had been very routine not to declare it necessarily before committee. So | think in the interest of more clarity and
everyone in our city being able to have access to the research tools that we have, | hope that if you don't support this
today, that in next term you do what you can to ensure that we get fully staffed so that this can be done because | think it
makes a huge difference. | don't know if anyone took a look at it but | just want to, you know, implore the Mayor to fully
staff that office and that you see the benefit of this method and if necessary, put it into legislation, because | thought it was
going to be done, you know, going forward and unfortunately wasn't. Thank you.

President Wilshire

For the record, the Mayor is not the one that staffs the legislative office. That's me.
Alderwoman Lu
So | implore you.

Alderman Lopez

| just take this opportunity to invite the public to spread the word that we're looking for an Aldermanic Assistant. In talking
to Ms. Graham in the past, there is not exactly an abundance of applicants and it's very important work. So someone
who's looking for an opportunity to do some real good and is very interested in transparency, accountability, and
translating those minutes from verbal to written, this is an opportunity.

Alderman Clemons

Thank you, Madam President. So first off, |, | respect the work of our Legislative Assistant and | believe it was a joint
communication to with the City Clerk and | respect both of them immensely and I'll get to that in a moment, but | just

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wanted to point something out. We have legislation that's passed, and that's been denied, or indefinitely postponed, or
whatever on the city's website going back to 2002. Just for the heck of it, | pulled up a random ordinance for 2004. So
this is ordinance 0-04-30. It gives me the first reading date, which was 8/10/2004 and then it gives me the approval date
9/13/2004. So if | go back to the meeting minutes of 2004, | can know to look for - in this case, it was relating to a parking
meter. So it probably want Infrastructure but | can take a look at the Infrastructure meeting. | can look at that meeting
minutes and see what happened and then | can go to the approval date - so in 9/13/2004 there was a Board of Aldermen
meeting where this was approved. | can look into that as well. Then if | click on the text details, | can | can get even more
information about the actual ordinance itself. So the availability is there if you want to do the research. I'm sure that you
have to have some working knowledge anyway of how the Board of Aldermen works, but | know that if a citizen was
looking for that, that they could get that information from the City Clerk or from the legislative office.

So | am going to respect the wishes of our legislative office and the City Clerk and | am not going to support this this
evening. If they can find a better or another way forward, I'd be happy to hear it but | think it should come from them.
They're the ones doing the work and | think it's vital that we listen to our employees. So for that reason, I'll be voting no.

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you. | wanted to say that | think that, you know, the transparency and the ease of information that Alderwoman Lu
outlined | think makes sense, but | am always hesitant to support something that creates more work for our departments
without having heard directly from them how they feel about it. | think codifying it when we know we're already
understaffed is just not an appropriate move at this point.

President Wilshire

Further discussion?
Alderwoman Lu

| just want to clarify that yes, indeed, in 2002 you would have been able to find that but that practice was discontinued at
some point. | don't know exactly what the year was and so that's what led me to attempt to get it reinstated. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Further discussion? See none with the Clerk please call the roll?
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman Lopez, Alderwoman Lu 2
Nay: Alderman O’Brien, Alderman Klee, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd,

Alderman Caron, Alderman Clemons, Alderman Tencza, Alderman Jette,

Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver,

Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderman Wilshire 13
MOTION FAILED

NEW BUSINESS — RESOLUTIONS - None

NEW BUSINESS —- ORDINANCES - None

PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

Jim Tollner

Jim Tollner, | live at 1 Sequoia Circle in Nashua. First of all, | like to commend the Board - the inclusionary zoning
supplemental use regulations is a very good piece of legislation.

Just here to thank you the Aldermen that are leaving the Board for their time and service. Anybody just had to look at
tonight's meeting. It's just a small sample of how much time and sometimes pain you put into these meetings.

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But | would like to recognize two people. The first one is Dave Fredette who is very good friend of mine who served the
city for over 20 years. | think that not only will he be missed for what he did in performing his duties, we also think that
he'll be missed personally by the people in the city. So | wanted to recognize him.

The other person that I've waited all night to recognize is June Caron. She's been on the Board now, | think, ten years if
I'm correct. In addition to that, she served the city for 40 years. So you're looking at a person who has dedicated 50
years of her life in one way or another to the city and that's why | came down here tonight. | just wanted to make sure that
the citizens in Nashua recognize that and | want to thank her personally. Thanks very much and everybody have a good
New Year.

President Wilshire

Thank you.

Laura Colquhoun

First of all, it's Laura Colquhoun at 30 Greenwood Drive. If the Board does not want the residents to call in via phone,
they should say that and not allow it. | tried to call. | was on the phone from the beginning and | was not allowed to talk.

Number two. If the Board has put a limit on the residents’ conversations on how much we can speak, | would highly
recommend that maybe the Board put a limitation on each member of the Aldermen so that we don't have to listen to a lot
of repeat information.

Also on NRO 5-6 pertaining to Shoshanna Kelly. | think that's a very misleading memo because it says she's been out
three times this quarter. However if you look at her attendance record for the year, she has been out 8 out of 19 meetings
whereby she should not have been paid for two quarters. | would ask the Board of Aldermen deduct that money from her
pay because she is not representing the residents of Nashua. | will be reviewing all the Aldermen and | think Skip Klee
also in the first quarter missed three meetings. So | think this is something that the Board should start looking at because
| Know it's coming out of the residents’ pockets, but somebody's got to look at the money. Thank you.

Laurie Ortolano

Laurie Ortolano, 41 Berkeley Street. | wanted to address the Board of Education meeting that took place on December
20!" and the Mayor's involvement in that needing to speak regarding the impasse on the teacher's contract. | really feel
that that crossed the line when it comes to ethics and appropriate actions on the part of the Mayor to do what he did. |
negotiated several teachers’ contracts when | was on the School Board and that work was maintained, you know, very
private, confidential work between the negotiating team which was made up of members of the Board, and of course,
teachers from the union. My understanding is the Mayor reached out to Heather Raymond to talk to her about
encouraging the School Board to accept the pay raises that the teachers’ union wanted because there had been some
concessions on health care. You know, he didn't have a negotiating position to do that kind of overreach but he said that
he was going to go to the meeting on December 20" and speak as a citizen because as a citizen, he has a right to do
that.

Well when he went to the meeting on the 20", first of all he was given five minutes to talk and he never identified as
himself as a citizen at the microphone. He identified himself (lost audio) and he proceeded to, you know, certainly get the
teachers fired up in support of what he was saying and clapping for him. But tonight, it was mentioned by a Board
member, | think Ben Clemons, that he didn't suspect that the Mayor would bind the city into any kind of agreement if he
were to negotiate the Bartlett Street property. In that meeting on December 20", he made it clear that he thought that the
Board of Education should make every effort to give the additional percentage point that the teachers wanted and we at
City Hall will help you in terms of providing the funding to support the contract. You know, what right does the Mayor have
to stand at a microphone and let the teachers know, when they're at an impasse heading into mediation that the City Hall
is going to make up the difference or more of it? You know, he totally blew their mediation because now these teachers
are going to want what a Mayor said he can deliver and frankly, I'd be furious if | were on that negotiating team that a
Mayor could do that and hijack my meeting.

Secondly, he talked about the fact that the concessions made...

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

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Laurie Ortolano

...he realized that the city was that their agreement for healthcare reform was a significant savings realized to the city to
offset a significant portion of the raises that are being discussed. What exactly is that portion? He didn't define it. We
know that with the additional percentage put on it's probably $11.5 million dollars of raise increases is a significant portion
with the healthcare adjustment of $7 - $8 million? Is it two or three...

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

Time.
Laurie Ortolano

...he never disclosed that? So | hope you all realize that | think this is a very serious ethics violation for this Mayor to do
what he did. Thank you.

Alex Comeau

Yes, thank you. Alex Comeau, 4 Lewis Street. | just wanted to once again thank the seven outgoing members of the
Board. | think | accidentally said one of the names twice last time and left somebody out. My apologies. Alderwoman
Caron, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright, Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Cleaver, Alderman Schmidt, Alderman Tencza, and
Alderman Laws. | just want to thank you for your service to the City of Nashua for everything you've done over the last
two plus years, especially Alderwoman Caron for your exemplary time in service of the city and | look forward next month
to beginning my time in service to the city. Thank you very much.

Matthew Gouthro

Yes. Thank you so much. Thank you, Madam President and Aldermen. | just wanted to comment on the meeting that
you guys had last week concerning the public hearing for ordinance O-21-083 relative to requiring facemask coverings. |
understand the need for making these emergency meetings for the greater good of public health but I'm concerned about
when we have these meetings and there is no second reading and no public comment. As we bring in a new group of
Aldermen in the New Year, | hope that we in the future will look to these opportunities to see if we could get public
comments and without necessarily needing the passing it only on a first reading. | think that that that we missed a great
opportunity to engage our public about, you know, why we need to wear masks and | think there was a lot of conversation
that was had, but we didn't get a lot of input from the residents. | actually tuned in to the last Board of Health meeting in
which they didn't have any public comments on that as well. | think we need to listen to our constituents more. |
understand the need for doing the greater good when it comes to the public health of our community but | think we're not
doing ourselves justice when we're not hearing what the public has to say concerning creating an ordinance, creating
legislation without a second reading or public comment. So thank you so much for your time, and | wish you all a very
happy New Year.

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

Matthew, can | have your address, please?

Matthew Gouthro

I'm sorry. | live on 104 Fawn Lane in Nashua.

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

Thank you.

Matthew Gouthro

Thank you.

REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN

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