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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 9/28/2021 - P8

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shopping and say okay this is not an ideal location for that type of housing. You can pay the value differential and then
we'll use this money to try and invest in other projects that are better located and better served.

So those are some of the recommendations that we think that if the city were to move forward with building a new
inclusionary zoning policy, we both hit the expectations that the city has as well as doing it in a manner that is going to
mitigate the impact on the development community. So that is my very long winded presentation. My apologies if | took
longer than | was supposed to but | am happy to entertain any questions.

President Wilshire

Anyone have questions? Alderman Lopez.

Alderman Lopez

With regards to the density expectations for downtown housing and the possibility that in order to incentivize it or continue
to get people to build low income housing or housing that includes a percentage of low income housing, you would grant
the density bonuses? It seems like there's the possibility that if you calculate differently for downtown versus other places
to encourage that, you could potentially create an opportunity for gentrification. So does your suggestion to do that also
include use of the housing trust fund in order to mitigate the expenses they might have if they propose such a project?

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

Yeah so yes, absolutely. | think one of the things that you can do is as the trust fund generates revenue, even though you
may be requiring a lower percentage, you can use the trust fund to mitigate the costs of bringing it back up and so that the
hardship doesn't explicitly fall in the development community. | mean, frankly, an inclusionary zoning policy like this |
don't believe creates gentrification. It helps mitigate the impact of it by requiring all new development to include a certain
percentage of affordability within the project. Like | mentioned, you could do the payment in lieu in certain situations but to
me if it were my purview that would be on a very, very limited basis and only when he was going to benefit those lower
income households rather than exclude them. It's meant to make sure that where investment is made is to the maximizes
the economic benefit that those households get so that they can be part of the success, and the growth, and the
investment that is going on for the city and not just in one location but in multiple areas of the city so there's opportunities
depending upon their needs or their particular location, challenges.

But absolutely. | believe to go back to your question using the revenue generating a household fund to help incentivize
some of those projects to maybe bring the percentages back up and downtown is definitely a strategy that could be
employed.

Alderman Lopez

And you would calculate the amount | mean, | guess | shouldn't speak to you but it seems like it would makes sense to
also calculate access to those amenities that you mentioned above like access to healthcare, shopping, and that kind of
stuff in order to justify using the trust fund money and saying like, yep, this is definitely a project that we're interested in
doing and we're interested in making sure that it has a as good a percentage of low income housing so they can have the
same access to those amenities as the other residents in the same place.

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

Yes. | think creating a matrix that determines where those monies are based on decision making points with the priorities
of the city establishes. So you know is access to health care more or less important than access to transportation? Is
access to healthcare more or less important than access to retail? Then coming up with that decision making matrix will

then allow you to determine how you want to deploy those resources as they become available. That absolutely is a tried
and true way that many communities use to maximize the effectiveness and the efficiency of their trust funds.

Alderman Lopez
Madam President if | could ask one more question.
President Wilshire

Alderman Lopez.

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Alderman Lopez

In keeping that a matrix like that up to date, what mechanism would you prefer because some of those amenities can
change drastically? Like within the past year, health care based transportation has skyrocketed but it's sort of flat lined
more recently because when it first became available, everybody was like, oh, wow, we can get actual transportation to
and from our doctor's appointments. But now, there's like a shortage of drivers. So would you suggest something that we
refer to as an index or would you refer a committee review that annually, or what would the way of keeping that matrix...?

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

| think outside of a global economic shock like we've been experiencing for the past two years, reviewing that matrix every
year or every two years is a reasonable approach because while the world does change, it doesn't change as dramatically
as it has over the past 24 months. That being said, | think it makes sense in situations like this where maybe that review
of that matrix is a little bit more frequent. You know there are staffing costs and economic costs to doing that so | think it
would need to make sure that the stimulus that we're trying to understand is truly going to move the needle. But | would
say, you know, outside of a global pandemic economic situation like we're in, every year or two is more than reasonable.

Alderman Lopez

Thank you.

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you and thank you for the presentation. Affordable housing is one of the things that I'm very concerned about as a
citizen and as an Alderwoman. So | really do appreciate this. My question you started to answer it was around the
payment in lieu of information. It sounded like you just mentioned that you would say that's really only in certain
instances, but my concern was that, for example, we do sidewalks in payment in lieu of but then we end up with not
enough money to then build those sidewalks. So | want to make sure that doesn't happen with affordable housing.

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

And so that's one of the reasons why we calculated the value gap between a market rate unit and whatever income
threshold that we're trying to address because that then should be able to be applied in different housing developments.
And so instead of getting $3,000 a unit when the gap is really $36,000, you're getting the $36,000 so you know that you'll
be able to invest in that unit.

And to build upon the question | was just asked a moment ago, that is also something that should be reviewed every year
or two because market valuation changes, and price points change, and so the differential between a market rate unit and
a unit price that 80% of AMI for example, may go up or down. And so you want to make sure that if two years from now
its $42,000, you're not still stuck at that $36,000 threshold. So that is also something that you would want to revisit on a
semi-regular basis to be able to make sure that that is consistent so that to your point, that we are getting an amount of
money that is economically relevant to what we're trying to accomplish, which is, you know, exchange half a unit of money
to be able to develop that half a unit somewhere else.

Alderwoman Kelly

If | could follow on?
President Wilshire

Yes.

Alderwoman Kelly

Thank you. Just second questions. We put this in place. We think it's wildly successful. The housing trust funds going
great. At what point do we need to re-evaluate? | mean, | Know there's definitely flexes here, right. | don't think we'd be
in danger of bringing on too much affordable housing but at what point should we be looking at that and making sure that
we're looking at what housing is coming on the market and then readjust? | think you said two years but is that the same
point to look at that how affordable housing has changed our market?

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Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

Well, | mean, that's a great question because if in the next few years only 100 units are built, to your question, it's really
not going to move the needle very much. However, the next few years you permit 20,000 new housing units in the City of
Nashua, that's going to change the market quite substantially. | guess my point of saying one to two years is what we
typically see it other communities that are as active as yours in terms of trying understand it and recalibrate based on how
the market is changing. If you see a substantial uptick in development and your staff who are all more than capable to
come back and say, hey look we just approved all these units at 80% of AMI, do you think we're going to be good there?
We should recalibrate and look at maybe either going higher, or lower, or whatever the market is saying. Then you can
do that at that point in time. There's no absolute number. My point is saying a year or two is based on our experience of
other communities with similar accurate markets as yours and size of markets is yours, so that you aren't going to end up
going too far down one particular housing type at the expense of not providing something else somewhere else. Does that
make sense?

Alderwoman Kelly

It does thank you. | would just say that | have a ton more questions. So if perhaps you could come to the next Human
Affairs Committee and have some more questions from the committee too. That would be great.

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

| would be happy to accommodate that. Please work with Sarah and we can try and do the best we can to make that
happen.

Alderwoman Kelly

Thanks so much.

President Wilshire

Anyone else? Questions? Alderwoman Lu.
Alderwoman Lu

Thank you Madam President. You mentioned that this would be best or you want to focus on downtown. | just wonder is
that because of the cost of real estate in the downtown is less per acre? Why would this work best in downtown?

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

Well so just to be very, very clear, we believe that there's the policy should look at all different areas of the city. We think
the downtown maybe should have a different set of rules than other areas of the city and it's not because the cost of land
is less, it’s because the cost to develop is more. And so as a result, the ability to provide one affordable unit, for example,
when | have to also provide structured parking is the impact of that on the cash flow or on the value of that project is
greater than let's say | did it somewhere else where I'm able to do surface parking because there's enough land and I'm
not trying to maximize the amount of developments that we create a walkable area, per se, or an urban scale walkable
area, per se. And So it's not that it should be focused on downtown as we think that maybe the city should consider a
different set of criteria in the inclusionary zoning policy for downtown because of the unique attributes that it has that other
areas of the city do not.

Alderwoman Lu

Thank you. May | follow up with a couple two others? Just another question | had is did you feel that the expected rate of
return was so high simply because of expectations that have been built over years? | mean or doesn't have anything to
do with risk, perceived risk?

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

You know return expectations and risk are usually melded together in an open marketplace. They usually bounce out
because there is demand from a various number of developers so that it kind of hits that equilibrium - that 12 to 15% for
rental and that 20 to 25% for owner is where you have that consistency if you will where you have a lot of developers that
want to do business and a lot of folks that want to have that type of housing.

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| think to be very, very frank, | think part of the issue of why return expectations are much higher in Nashua than other
places is because the city is more accommodating with its regulatory and its financial incentives to make it happen. But
there is the reality of that. There isn't a wide variety of investors that are willing to come to Nashua because there is so
much work in other markets, particularly within you know, the more immediate Boston metro area. There's so much
activity going on in those places that they don't have to, if that makes sense. And So it does create a little bit of well, we
don't have the same level of competition. So as a result, the investment community can have a different expectation
because there's not as much competition, if you will.

However, | think it's a balance between the two which is there's not as much competition. | don't believe that's because
it's higher risk as much. It is a little bit more risky because, you know, particularly multi-family development hasn't really
happened except for the last few years. | think that the proof is in the marketplace with a number of the developments
that have been come online and have been very successful. No one really likes to be the first person in, especially in the
real estate world. They tend to want to see proof of concept and then you'll see interest.

To that point is | think it's a combination of things. | think, is a combination of to this point, there hasn't been a lot of
competition to get access to these developments. And two is because | think the city has been very, very aggressive in
trying to make development happen. And so they've been providing regulatory and financial incentives that face that
effectively bump up the return. If I'm getting that return on this project, I'm going to see if | can try and get it on the next
one too.

Alderwoman Lu

Okay, thank you. | can pass to someone else if there are other questions. | have two more.

President Wilshire

That's fine. Go ahead.

Alderwoman Lu

Okay. Oh were you able to do any - | know that you started looking at 2018 and this study is described as through 2000 -
well a lot of the assumptions or the data was gathered through that year. I'm just thinking about projected growth. Do you
still feel it's projected to be the same 7,400 additional residents in the next 12 years?

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

So you answer your question very clearly is yes. We didn't come across anything in doing this analysis that would make
us question that projection of information. Frankly, if anything, the impact of COVID in terms of folks wanting to move out
of highly dense areas, the current proliferation of telecommuting and folks not having to live as close to their job because
they don't have to go into work every day might even drive those numbers higher. | mean, Nashua is a very attractive
place to live. It is still “close enough to Boston” that if | only have to go into the office once or twice a week, that it
becomes a very viable option. And so if anything, | would say the last couple of years may have made that demand
increase not decrease.

Alderwoman Lu

Okay, thank you. Will you be sending us the PowerPoint?

Kyle Talente, President of RKG Associates

Absolutely. Yes. | believe Sarah already has it but I'll make sure that it gets into your hands this evening. T
Alderwoman Lu

Thank you. I'm all set. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you. Anyone else have questions?

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Alderman Dowd

Yes Dan Hudson has a question online.

President Wilshire

Oh, Mr. Hudson?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

No, | don't. If my hand is raised, that's a mistake. | apologize.

President Wilshire

Oh, okay. Nice to see you anyway. Okay. Seeing no more questions, I'd like to thank you, Mr. Talente and Director
Marchant, Director Cummings, and everyone involved. Director Cummings did you have something to add?

Tim Cummings, Economic Development Director

Yes, thank you. My apologies. For the record, Tim Cummings, Director of Economic Development. | wanted to talk
about next steps. So we did Phase | with the housing study. We just completed this Phase II, which is basically taking a
deeper dive into one of the recommendations that came about. Now the question is are we going to be actually looking to
implement some of these policy changes that we just heard about this evening? So what we have is a scope to continue
this conversation. It was suggested earlier maybe Human Affairs but I'm going to be looking for direction from this body
as to a couple of working group sessions to see if we can develop some consensus on a piece of legislation and
ultimately try to get a piece of legislation filed so you have something before you to make any of these ideas that we've
talked about reality. So that's what's coming down the pike. | wanted to just preview that for you and hopefully we can
continue this conversation because | know it's an important topic. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you, Director Cummings.

Again, thank you for the presentation this evening. It was very informative and very, very good. Interesting.
Okay. We're gonna move on to reading minutes of previous meetings.

READING MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS

There being no objection, President Wilshire declared the minutes of the regular Board of Aldermen and Special
Board of Aldermen meetings of September 8, September 14, and September 16, 2021 be accepted, placed on file,
and the readings suspended.

COMMUNICATIONS REQUIRING ONLY PROCEDURAL ACTIONS AND WRITTEN REPORTS
FROM LIAISONS

From: Lori Wilshire, President of Board of Aldermen
Re: Calling a Special Board of Aldermen meeting on Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:00 p.m. Relative to an
Assessing Update on the Revaluation

From: Lori Wilshire, President of Board of Aldermen
Re: Calling a Special Board of Aldermen meeting on Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:00 p.m. Relative to a
Presentation from the Beautification Committee

From: Matthew Sullivan, Planning Manager

Re: Referral from Board of Aldermen on Proposed R-21-169, Relative to the Authorization of the City of
Nashua to enter an Agreement and Consent to Joint Use with Liberty Utilities and making a supplemental
appropriation of $38,394

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From: Matthew Sullivan, Planning Manager
Re: Referral from Board of Aldermen on Proposed R-21-170, Relative to the Approval of the Imagine Nashua 2021
Master Plan

From: Lisa M. Fauteux, Director of Public Works
Re: Referrals from Board of Aldermen — R-21-165, R-21-166 and R-21-169

There being no objection, President Wilshire accepted the communications and placed them on file.

There being no objection, President Wilshire suspended the rules to allow for a communication that was received
after the agenda was prepared. President Wilshire to recognize Administrative Services Director Kim Kleiner to
speak on the communication.

From: Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director
Re: Staffing — City Hall

Kim Kleiner, Administrative Services Director

Madam President, members of the Board. Thank you for allowing me to speak this evening. Recently, the Board of
Aldermen have been made aware of some staff departures within the Assessing Department. The Board has also
received a communication stating several untruths as to why these employees have left the city.

At full staffing, the Department held the Chief Assessor, two Commercial Assessors, two Residential Assessors, a
Customer Service Supervisor, a Department Coordinator, and two customer service staff — a total of nine. Currently, we
have a Chief Assessor, two Commercial Assessors, and one customer service staff member. Three. The city is actively
recruiting, excuse me, four. The city is actively recruiting for all of the open positions.

The professional and knowledgeable staff within the Assessing Department has provided our residents with exceptional
customer service for many years. It is with great disappointment and loss that employees have chosen to leave the city. |
would be remiss in my duty if | fail to communicate the issues which have been shared with me as the Director regarding
their departure. Undergoing an improvement plan, software upgrade, policy review, and revaluation is difficult work but
the staff remained determined to the goals and the objectives set forth by the city. They remained resolved with the
commitment through the most of challenging times. The difficulty arose with the constant unsubstantiated criticisms
raised by a select group of individuals. Employees have been accused of untruths followed outside of the workplace,
based questions on their character, supplied thousands of documents through Right-to-Know requests and if it had
misinformation shared within public comment, the newspapers, and social media.

There was never a mention of displeasure with salary or benefits as a reason for the recent departures. The events over
the past two years caused by a Select few were stated as an unfortunate cause for leaving positions they otherwise
enjoyed. Public employees are often motivated in their work by a desire to serve the residents of the community. These
employees held that desire. To allow the departure of these employees to be labeled as anything else other than the
reason shared by them would be a greater injustice. We as a city, owe our dedicated employees our support and respect
as they carry out their duties and contribute to the success of our community. Together we are all the culture and the
environment which contribute to the success of our employees. Thank you Madam President.

President Wilshire

Thank you Director Kleiner. Period for public comment relative to items expected to be acted upon this evening. No one
has signed up. No one has signed up.

PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RELATIVE TO ITEMS EXPECTED TO BE ACTED UPON THIS EVENING
Laurie Ortolano

There was no sign up sheet back there. Was there?

President Wilshire

Yeah, there was.

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Laurie Ortolano

Well | came in and there was no sheet. Nobody came and picked it up.

President Wilshire

Yeah they did.

Laurie Ortolano

Could | ask for public comment?

President Wilshire

You'll get three minutes. Go ahead.

Laurie Ortolano

Thank you. I'm rather disappointed by the letter that was just...

Alderman Caron

Name and address please.

Laurie Ortolano

Laurie Orlando — 41 Berkeley Street. I'm rather disappointed by the letter that was just read into the record by Ms. Kleiner
and | feel the need to comment to it because | didn't know that this letter had been produced. It really shows a lack of
sophistication on the part of some people in this administration, especially leadership people to summarize a public letter
or a citizen’s letter like that in that manner saving several untruths she said. This city isn't capable of recognizing that
citizens carry different opinions. It's not that it's an untruth. It's a perspective. It's an opinion and when Ms. Kleiner talks
about the changes in that office just so you know, | was unaware that those people had left. I've had difficulty recently just
asking for an updated report that | waited three weeks for because | didn't know you only had one clerical staff member in
there. Now, it would be nice if the administration would tell citizens that you're short staffed. Let us know.

You had the same problem in the Clerk's Office. We don't know that the line is eight people long because you only had
two clerks in the office. Tell us. So that's one issue. When your staffing is down and you don't have the citizens, you
don't speak to it. The fourth paragraph of this, “the difficulty arose with the constant unsubstantiated criticisms raised by a
select group”. | think my criticisms were very substantiated. A court ruled in my favor on my property appeal and for the
life of me | don't know why those assessors weren't sophisticated enough in this Legal office to recognize that that
property was incorrectly assessed, grossly incorrectly assessed. Had this city addressed my concerns differently from the
beginning, had somebody opened the door and said Mrs. Ortolano come on in, sit down, and we'll talk to you instead of
slamming them in my face, pushing me away, and reading e-mails about how my brain doesn't work right because I'm an
engineer and | can't understand assessing. It's insulting and that's the quality of the people you had in Assessing. | didn't
enjoy that.

With regard to articles or newspapers in social media...

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

30 seconds

Laurie Ortolano

...you were the people who put me on the front page of the Telegraph for wasting money. Ridiculous. That was a poor
move. With regard to following people outside of the workplace, well that obviously didn't bother the employee because

that's the one who stayed who's here now. So you know, this is such an inaccurate - it just reflects perfectly on what is
wrong with this city and | would ask citizens get out and vote and replace these Aldermen in this chamber.

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Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

Time is up.

President Wilshire

Times up.

Laurie Ortolano

Time to move on. Thank you.

President Wilshire

| don't see anyone on Zoom that has requested to speak. Do you Donna?

Donna Graham, Legislative Affairs Manager

| do not.

President Wilshire

Okay moving on.

COMMUNICATIONS REQUIRING FINAL APPROVAL

From: Mayor Jim Donchess

Re: Multi Year Interpreting Services Contract in the amount not to exceed $3,500 funded from accounts 55699 Other
Contracted Services (Police Department)

MOTION BY ALDERMAN HARRIOTT-GATHRIGHT TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND APPROVE A MULTI- YEAR

INTERPRETING SERVICE CONTRACT WITH LANGUAGE LINE PHONE SERVICES, INC., INAN AMOUNT NOT TO

EXCEED $3,500. FUNDING WILL BE THROUGH DEPARTMENT 150 POLICE DEPARTMENT; FUND: 55699 OTHER

CONTRACTED SERVICES BY ROLL CALL

ON THE QUESTION

Alderman Dowd

Yes - | believe this is for the Police, correct? Last night at the Police Commissioner's meeting this was brought up and |

think it probably would be best if we had someone from the Police Department come up and just give us a couple minutes

of the reason for this Resolution and the actual cost.

President Wilshire

I'm okay with that.

Jim Testaverde, Deputy Police Chief

Good evening everyone. Jim Testaverde, Deputy Chief of Police. Madam President, Mr. Mayor, Alderwoman and

Aldermen, thank you. I'll be brief. | spoke before Finance a couple of weeks ago and it was unanimously voted on. One

of the main cornerstones of the Chief's administration is strong community relationships. | believe you all know that and

this is one step in the right direction for our agency to continue to become a culturally effective organization as a

communications access plan is one of the main tenants of becoming a culturally effective communication.

Captain Craig Allard who's with me tonight found the Language Line Solutions, Incorporated, which we found out is being

used by NYPD an agency of 40,000 officers and they've invested $800,000 into it. We're not nearly asking for that

amount. On a daily basis, we provide interpreting services to the citizens of Nashua to conduct our business. We have

recently applied for some money through the Department of Justice Byrne Discretionary Funding and we'll find out what

the end of the month if we're going to get that money. If we get the money, we'll be able to use this device at a rate that
we've never been able to use it before for things that we've never been able to do before in order to communicate with the

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citizens of Nashua such as being able to use it at crime watch meetings, Ward meetings, NFR, Public Health, teachers,
DPW, even if it's not a police service, if there is a language barrier to include our hard of hearing and deaf residents, we'll
be able to use this service. It's a very progressive piece of technology. It's an application driven technology.

We already have the hardware with smartphones and iPads that was donated to the Police Department and this
organization, the aldermanic chamber voted last year on the T-Mobile Heroes Project and all of our cellular data for those
smartphones and iPads are free for 10 years. So we have the hardware for free. For $2,500, we can use unlimited
licensing on all of our devices indefinitely. We're asking for an additional $1,000 to get the ball rolling to use the services.

It was brought up at Finance, It was a very good point - what happens if we do not get the Department of Justice funding?
| can assure you this. On a daily basis, we're already providing interpreting services to the citizens of Nashua. We will
continue to do that despite Department of Justice funding from our own budget as we always have. The Department of
Justice money will allow us to do it for those instances that are non-police related or non-investigatory instances that we
just can't do now. But! assure you if we don't get this money, this is a great tool for our toolbox. It gives us access to
over 240 languages to include American Sign Language. We just hired interpreters for American Sign Language for a
very serious domestic violence case a couple of weeks ago to the tune of over $600. We're already doing that within our
own budget. | assure you we will not come here asking for more. | can answer any questions. | also have Mrs. Karen
Smith and Captain Craig Allard.

President Wilshire
Thank you Deputy.

Jim Testaverde, Deputy Police Chief

Thank you very much.
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron,
Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza, Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette,
Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright,
Alderman Wilshire 12
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
From: Mayor Jim Donchess
Re: Engineering Consulting in the amount not to exceed $2,600,000 funded from accounts SFR Loan (Engineering
Department)
MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN KELLY TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND APPROVE THE ENGINEERING
CONSULTANT CONTRACT WITH HAZEN AND SAWYER OF MANCHESTER, NH, FOR THE CMOM
IMPLEMENTATION PHASE II IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,600,000. FUNDING WILL BE THROUGH
DEPARTMENT 169 WASTEWATER; FUND: SRF LOAN; ACTIVITY: CMOM PHASES II (PENIDNG APPROVAL) BY
ROLL CALL
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Jette

Is there anyone prepared to make any presentation on that?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Madam President I'd be happy to give a brief description what this is. Dave Hudson, City Engineer. So this is the CMOM
Program it's called which stands for “capacity, management, operation, and maintenance”. This is a contract with an
engineering company Hazen who will provide us engineering support services. This is for operation of our storm water
collection and our wastewater collection systems. Having the CMOM program is required by EPA.

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We entered into a Phase | of CMOM a few years ago. Under that program - | should note that this contract about half of
the contract is actually for a subcontractor to clean and CCTV inspect pipes. So, this is not all engineering work. But
under the Phase | of this program which was the same value, we cleaned and inspected over 121,000 feet of sewer main,
24,000 feet of storm drains, inspected over 700 manholes, and through that process identified 320 pipes that needed to
be lined, found 11 pipes that require full replacement, 76 locations that required spot repairs - like places where we had
collapsed, sewer pipes and things, and did a number of other things. We completed required reporting to EPA and DES
and developed some documents which are in the CMOM manuals and some standard operating procedures and a
number of other things.

Through this contract, this is very valuable to us. This company works kind of as an extension to city staff in providing
additional engineering expertise and support in executing this program which as | said is required by EPA.

Alderman Jette
Thank you.
Dan Hudson, City Engineer

This will be funded through the SRF program State Revolving Fund Program. So it’s paid through a loan which is a long
longer term loan similar to a bond.

President Wilshire
Thank you Mr. Hudson. Anyone have questions? Discussion? Seeing none, would the Clerk please call the roll?
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron,

Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza, Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette,

Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright,

Alderman Wilshire 12
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
From: Mayor Jim Donchess
Re: Postage Machine Lease in the amount not to exceed $6,000.60 funded from accounts 55607

Postage & Delivery (Library)

MOTION BY ALDERWOMAN LU TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND APPROVE THE REQUEST TO ENTER INTO A
NEW POSTAGE METER LEASE AGREEMENT WITH PITNEY BOWES FOR FISCAL YEARS 2022 THROUGH 2024 IN
AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $6,000.30. FUNDING WILL BE
THROUGH DEPARTMENT 179 LIBRARY; FUND: 55607 POSTAGE AND DELIVERY BY ROLL CALL
A viva voce roll call was taken which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman O’Brien, Alderwoman Kelly, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Caron,

Alderman Lopez, Alderman Tencza, Alderwoman Lu, Alderman Jette,

Alderman Laws, Alderman Cleaver, Alderwoman Harriott-Gathright,

Alderman Wilshire 12
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
PETITIONS - None
NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS

The following appointments by the Mayor were read into the record:

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