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Specifically, we know from extensive research that the health of any given individual and the community in
general, is primarily a function of factors related to the quality of life or lifestyle factors. This is why
communities invest in things like bike lanes and green spaces as well as the Performing Arts, In fact, it has
been demonstrated that the overwhelming majority of a person’s good health outcomes are due directly to
these social determinates and to a much lesser extent, the factors which we often think of such as
medications, doctors and surgeries.

A second aspect | would like you to consider is civil unrest. All of us have borne witness unfortunately over
the past several months to the civil unrest in so many parts of this country. This unrest fueled largely by
social media and prejudice is much more likely to occur in communities which are not closely connected.
The connectedness of people to one another is often cited as a major factor in community resilience. It is
kind of like an inoculation against unrest. Aldermen and Alderwomen, | appreciate the importance of your
decision this evening and | hope that you consider a vote in the affirmative for R-20-071 and take into
account not just economic value but also the many positive health and community consequences of a
strong and vibrant arts community. Thank you for your time.

President Wilshire

Thank you. Lindsay Rinaldi?

Lindsay Rinaldi Good evening, can everyone hear me alright?
President Wilshire

Yes.

Ms. Rinaldi That’s great. Hi, my name is Lindsay Rinaldi, thank you everyone for giving me the opportunity
to speak. My name is Lindsey Rinaldi and | am here speaking on behalf of the Nashua Arts Commission. |
am the Chair of the Nashua Arts Commission.

Alderman Caron
Can we just add addresses please?

Ms. Rinaldi Sure the Nashua Arts Commission address is the Hunt Memorial Building. | would have to
look that up real quick.

President Wilshire
| believe its 6 Main Street.

Ms. Rinaldi 6 Main Street is the address for the Nashua Arts Commission, so thank you. On behalf of the
Nashua Arts Commission, as the Chair, | would like to speak in favor of all Resolutions related to moving
the Performing Arts Center project forward. | believe that is R-20-071 and O-20-030. The need for a
Nashua Performing Arts Center was expressed in the City’s Arts & Culture Plan from 2014. This Arts &
Culture Plan was put together on the basis of input from several different arts organizations and the general
public.

At this time we saw so many people speaking in favor of needing a Nashua Performing Arts Center, not just
for the health and well being as Mike spoke to, as well as the cultural benefits. But also for the incredible
opportunity in terms of economic development. The Nashua Arts Commission plans on having the Nashua
Performing Arts Center become an integral part of the next phase of the Nashua Arts & Culture Plan which
is currently being updated and in motion.

(G) Easements, rights-of-way, restrictions, and other similar encumbrances which, in
the aggregate, do not materially interfere with the occupation, use, and enjoyment by the Company of the
property or assets encumbered thereby in the normal course of its business or materially impair the value
of the property subject thereto.

(H) Purchase money Liens on trucks and other rolling stock and the proceeds thereof
to secure debt permitted under Section 6.02(E) hereof.

SECTION 6.02. Debt. Create, incur, assume, or suffer to exist, any indebtedness or
liability for borrowed money or for the deferred purchase price of property or services or for letters of
credit, except that, as long as the Company is and remains in compliance with Article 7 hereof, for: (A)
debt of the Company to CoBank; (B) debt to the New Hampshire State Revolving Fund incurred to
finance the expansion of the Company’s water utility facilities; (C) debt to the Guarantor; provided,
however, that such debt is subordinate to all obligations of the Company to CoBank on terms and
conditions satisfactory to CoBank; (D) accounts payable to trade creditors incurred in the ordinary course
of business; (E) purchase money indebtedness and capital leases in an aggregate principal amount not to
exceed, at any one time outstanding, $200,000; and (F) obligations of the Company with respect to tax
exempt debt obligations issued by the State of New Hampshire or any agency or department thereof in
order to finance the expansion of the Company’s water utility facilities.

SECTION 6.03. Sale, Transfer or Lease of Assets. Sell, transfer, lease or otherwise dispose
of any of its assets except for: (A) the sale of water and wastewater services in the ordinary course of
business; and (B) the sale, lease or other disposition of equipment which is: (1) obsolete, worn-out or no
longer necessary for, or useful in, the provision of water and wastewater services to customers in its
service territories; and (2) not occasioned by the discontinuance of service to any portion of its service

territory.

SECTION 6.04. Distributions. Declare or pay, directly or indirectly, any Distribution unless
after giving effect thereto: (A) no Default or Event of Default will exist (including as a result of a breach
of any financial covenant set forth in Article 7 hereof); and (B) the Company will have a Total Debt to
Total Capitalization Ratio of less than 65%.

SECTION 6.05. Contingent Liabilities. Assume, guarantee, endorse, or otherwise be or
become directly or contingently responsible or liable for the obligations of any Person (including by
means of an agreement to: (A) purchase any obligation, stock, assets, or services; (B) supply or advance
any funds, assets, or services; or (C) cause any Person to maintain a minimum working capital or net
worth or other financial test), except by the endorsement of negotiable instruments for deposit or
collection or similar transactions in the ordinary course of business.

SECTION 6.06. Mergers, Ete. Merge or consolidate with any other Person or acquire all or
a material part of the assets of any other Person, or change the jurisdiction of its formation, except for
mergers or acquisitions where: (A) the Company is the surviving entity; and (B) the Person merged into
the Company or whose assets were acquired was a regulated water system or a water system owned by
the Guarantor.

SECTION 6.07. Change in Business, Etc.. Engage in any business activities or operations
substantially different from or unrelated to its present business activities or operations or make any
change in the Company's name, structure, jurisdiction of formation, or organizational number (if any).

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The next thing that is really exciting to share is that the Nashua Arts Commission has just completed an
economic study with American for the Arts taking a look at the economic impact in the Nashua Region.
That study was able to show that the Nashua Region Industry brought in $11.3 million dollars within that
year that studied. The same study was actually completed in Concord, New Hampshire a sister study. It is
also by the American for the Arts. It is used to evaluate the arts and economic prosperity of any given City.
And | think a quick comparison of the result would be very helpful and telling and to show hopefully all of
the Aldermen the tremendous economic impact and opportunity that was there. In Concord, the total local
non-profit and artistic cultural economic activity was $31.2 million dollars. And as a result of that study they
saw that number, they reached that $31.2, they say that number as a result of an increase of $13.5 million
dollars in just five years. That’s a potential 43% increase in economic activity.

What's very exciting is that if we parallel that to Nashua, if we are so fortunate to have similar results with
our number being $11.3, that could potentially increase our economic activity in the area by $4.86 million

dollars in a matter of five years and potentially could be more than that considering the size of the venue

that we are looking to build is significantly larger and has a little bit of a larger capacity to it, bringing more
people to the downtown area.

As a member of the Nashua Arts Commission, what is further exciting is that we do have an intention to
hopefully repeat that study again in the future. So that would also give us the ability to measure that impact
assuming the project moves forward and is completed. So that way we would be able to see and measure
the impact within a few years of the Performing Arts Center being open. And | think that having that
measurable, that ability to create that type of measurement and to have access to that type of data will
hopefully reaffirm the decision to move forward with the project today at its new budget point. So with that
being said, | ask all of the Aldermen to please consider voting in favor of all of the Resolutions that are
related to moving the Nashua Performing Arts Center Project forward. Thank you.

President Wilshire
Thank you. Next we have Faustin; Faustin if you could give your name and address for the record?

Faustin Greetings everybody, my name is Faustin. | live in the Nashua Bronstein building. | hope
everyone can hear me. All | needed to say they are about to switch this building and we have got to move.
So | have to give a little story about my parents. My dad he came from a place named Congo, tough place
they used to have wars and stuff; they used to be moving all kinds of places. And they switched places and
kids would have to switch schools and all that stuff. And me hearing that we have to move to a different
place that we are, it’s a whole different thing. Bob Keating from GSOP came and told us that they are
about to building some buildings, School Street Flats. And we were talking about it and we said it would be
a good thing if we could move close to there, if those buildings are done, those who want to move from
here to there it would be a great idea. So | am asking the Aldermen if they could make that happen
because | am speaking on behalf of my family and all the people that live over here, they all signed a
petition. The petition was to say that we all want to move close to hear and we heard about the School
Street Flats and everybody was so glad that they could (inaudible) and move over there, of course if the
Mayor and Aldermen agrees to the idea, that would be very helpful. And | think a good thing to think about
(audio cuts out) you know because given the story of my dad, this idea of moving it’s really hard, you know.
So Basically | was asking if you understand the petition and try to help us. That’s basically all. Thanks for
listening.

President Wilshire

Thank you. Next | have Brian Grip.

Brian Grip Yes hello, Madam Chair, it’s an honor to be with all of you, it’s Brian Grip, Ledgewood Hills
Drive, Ward 5, Nashua. So | had an opportunity to speak at the Budget Committee Meeting so | will be

very brief. | primarily wanted to again just acknowledge to all of you, we, my wife and | Kelly live here and
we started our careers here in the 1980’s and had an opportunity to work in downtown Nashua, both of us

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did. Later we raised our family in Bow, New Hampshire and had the very good fortune to be able to serve
on the Board of the Capitol Center for the Arts in Concord. And that’s the primary thing | just wanted to
relay on to all of you as you are getting ready to make this important decision tonight and also acknowledge
the hard work that all of you have been doing, it’s an important question and important issue for the City of
Nashua.

But as a resident of Nashua, having had the opportunity to live in the Concord area and participate on the
Board of the Capitol Center for the Arts from 2001 to 2007, really had an opportunity to see first-hand the
exciting change that really did take place in Concord. The way that | see the community by the way coming
together in Nashua is really wonderful and exciting. | have to say | have heard some comments on the
negative side from some folks who are concerned, well this is really not going to benefit everybody in the
community. That just could not be further from the facts based on what | know them to be from the time
that | served on the Board and beyond that time period watching what happened in Concord. School
children, community groups, non-profit organizations all benefited from that organization and continue to do
so. | see the same thing happening here, frankly in a very energized way.

So for all of you, you are really sort of at the ground base here of something that | think is going to be so
additive to what my wife and | have found to really be an amazing quality of life, right? Things from Mine
Falls, the Nashua Rail Trail, the Nashua Library all serve a special purpose to this quality of life that is really
building and evolving and really developing a wonderful reputation for Nashua. So we are excited to be
here to be part of it. | will also say that my employer, Bank of American, | am very proud as many of you
we made the leading donation here, $250,000.00 which was one of the leading grants that we’ve done here
in New Hampshire to date as an investment of the future of downtown Nashua and a belief in downtown
Nashua.

Our roots are here, dating back to Indian Head Bank so we are part of the community, we have employees
that work here as well. So speaking for Ken Sheldon who is our company president and others, we believe
in what is happening here. So just speaking to you tonight as a resident, | am excited for all of you. It’s an
important decision but it is the right decision. Thank you, thank you very much.

President Wilshire
Thank you. | have Catherine Sofikitis.

Catherine Sofikitis Hi, thank you. | am State Representative Catherine Sofikitis from Nashua Ward 7. My
address is 54 Marshall Street and tonight | have come to speak about R-20-077, Indigenous People’s Day.
It is often quite easy here in Colonial New England to think that the history of this area started when it was
“discovered” by European Explorers. Nothing could be further from the truth. Our archeological history
brings the indigenous people back 11,000 years in this history in this area; The Penacook, The
Winnipesaukee, The Pequawket, Soco, Key, Koasek and Ossipee among other. They all spoke related
dialects of the Abenaki Language (audio cuts out). Strong, vital indigenous people thrived here.

They did not own the land. They hunted and fished in their homeland area. They lived in small family
bands and joined to form tribes and confederations as their needs dictated. By the late 1600’s their
population was declining due to interactions that brought sickness to the tribes and skirmishes for land.
Between 1615 and 1620, there were epidemics of the flu and smallpox. A remnant of Abenaki
Descendants remained in their homeland including present-day New Hampshire. They are working hard
to preserve their customs, language, and culture. Their current status is as a pre-constitutional tribe that
has filed for Federal Recognition with the Bureau of Indian Affairs Petition Number 151. They were
originally recognized by George Washington as the nation was being formed.

| believe that is vitally important to honor our indigenous peoples and recognize the rich history they have
given us and the contributions they continue to make. We are a state rich in indigenous history and names
for towns, lakes, mountains, and rivers. It just remains for us to honor their past. Thank you.

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President Wilshire
Thank you. Next up | have Rich Lannan.

Rich Lannan Good evening | am Rich Lannan with offices in 7D Taggart Drive in Nashua. | spoke a fair
amount two weeks ago so | will make it brief. | am the Chair of the Nashua Community Arts, the non-profit
for the PAC. And just wanted to make a point to the Board and the public is listening in for the first time
tonight that even in spite of what we have all witnesses in the last 8 to 9 months with COVID, the Capital
Campaign Committee has continued to raise funds even though we had our hiatus for a little while due to
COVID that made our lives a little difficult. But we are here, as you already know that the total of the $4
million dollars has been raised, including $1.5 million dollars of private money along with the New Market
Tax Credits. We have | believe it’s about 174 individual donors that made up that. So it’s not just two or
three or four big ticket donors, it just shows that there is a lot of commitment from the public, from the
businesses. We continue, we are not done, we are not at the end of our road. We are going to continue,
we are in conversations with many, many other business owners and individuals throughout Nashua that
are very committed. We are seeing a lot of people; the interest level has just continued to rise. And justa
lot of people have been involved in this with the various committees and the boards and obviously
employees of Nashua that have committed a lot to this. And we’ve gone this far and we are right at the end
pretty much on that finish line and | hope that the Board of Aldermen can see that and see all the people
that have been talking about it at least so far this evening. This is not important just for downtown but the
entire City of Nashua and quite frankly the region. So we would love your support this evening and look
forward to that. Madam President, | have a question if | could. Kate Luczko of the Chamber asked me to
read just a couple of quick sentences, since she couldn't be with us tonight if that’s ok with you.

President Wilshire
It is Rich.

Mr. Lannan. Yeah and Kate did read, she was part of the meeting two weeks ago and she read nota
lengthy letter but a letter with a lot of facts from the Art Economic Impact Study which | will not repeat.
There are a lot of very interesting facts about benefits of Performing Arts Centers from all over the country
and again it’s already in the minutes. So basically Kate just wanted me to reiterate from the Chamber and
the Board on behalf of their entire membership stand in support of this Performing Arts Center. And she
wanted to thank everybody for their time, thank everybody who has contributed to the project and
encourages the Board to please vote affirmatively this evening. Thank you.

President Wilshire
Thank you. Next we have Fawn Gaudet? We need your name and address for the record please?

Ms. Gaudet My name is Fawn Gaudet | live in Rumney, New Hampshire. Ok, hello, my name is Fawn
Gaudet, | live in New Hampshire and | am requesting Columbus Day change to Indigenous People’s Day. |
have strong pride in ancestry and | am a descendant of the Black Feet Nation. Growing up in New
Hampshire as a child | was keenly aware of the injustices committed against Native Americans, this being
our nation first. Before the Columbus era, there were millions of indigenous people in North America,
Central America and South America. The Abenaki known as the people of (inaudible) lived in New
Hampshire long before colonists arrived. There is the (audio cuts out) Abenaki that are strong leaders that
Catherine just spoke about. And indigenous people lived here and thrived in harmony with (audible) which
means world for the Abenaki. Their culture is rich with tradition, honor and respect for their people, land
and wildlife. For me, Columbus Day is not a day of joy, it is a day of mourning. During this period of
terrorism, indigenous people were massacred, raped, enslaves, tortured and genocide occurs. Changing
this Holiday to Indigenous People’s Day offers honor and respect to our people. As Columbus Day, the
Day only marks a false representation of what happened in the past. We must never repeat this. By
changing the name to Indigenous People’s Day, you will offer truth. It is a chance for New Hampshire
residents, indigenous and non-indigenous to honor those who came before them and respect indigenous

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people who survived to carry out such rich native traditions for our future generation. Please, | humbly ask

that you change Columbus Day to Indigenous People’s Day. | just want to note that 12 states in the United

States have changed it including Washington, DC and 130 towns and cities have changed it. Thank you so
much.

President Wilshire
Thank you. Next we have Paul Shea.

Paul Shea Thank you, Madam President, Mr. Mayor, Board of Aldermen. My name is Paul Shea and | live
at 102 Towle Street in French Hill in downtown Nashua. | serve as the Executive Director for Great
American Downtown and this evening | am speaking on behalf of our organization and Board of Directors.
As you may know, our work is centered around economic and cultural vibrancy in downtown Nashua. Our
mission is to provide coordination, collaboration and partnerships that unify that entire Nashua Community
around a common vision for an attractive downtown that is vibrant, viable and truly reflects the character of
our City.

This evening, you are taking up a measure which will establish a Tax Increment Finance District to
actualize the potential of the School Street Lot as well as provide a funding mechanism to service the bond
relative to the construction for the Performing Arts Center. We know that the Performing Arts Center, one
of the additional benefits beyond the direct, tangible enjoyment that people receive by going to shows will
also work to drive development. We here in Nashua are in a housing crisis and interest from developers in
under-utilized parcels will help to address some of that need through a combination of market rate and
workforce housing.

This School Street Development as | understand from taking in the last meeting, is largely driven, the
interest is largely driven by the impending arrival of this Performing Arts Center. So for us, it makes a lot of
sense that this Tax Increment Finance District would be established to facilitate the funding for the Center
as well as address the needs of adjacent businesses to the School Street parcel through the establishment
of the parking structure and will hopefully be not the last of the level of interest from developers to bring
more housing to Nashua.

On a personal level, my wife and | have committed to the project. We are looking forward to hopefully
someday sitting in some seats with our name on a little tag. We know that there are many Nashuans who
will continue to step up to support this project through their donations, their time, their interest, their support
and eventually their patronage as attendees at the performances at the facility. This action being
considered by the Board tonight will represent the culmination of many moving parts, many professional
and volunteer efforts that have been taken up in earnest over the span of several years. We commend the
Board of Aldermen, the Performing Arts Center Steering Committee and Nashua Community Arts as they
work continues to making a vision for Nashua’s Performing Arts Center a reality.

Though the progress for Nashua’s Performing Arts Center has largely taken place recently in the past few
years, this vision for Nashua’s Performing Arts Center has been developed and recommended for some
time. Establishing such facilities is represented in the City of Nashua’s 2000 Master Plan and the 2015
Nashua Arts & Culture Plan, both of which will be updated in the year ahead to reflect and build upon this
great progress as well as the 2003 Downtown Master Plan and recommended by the Performing Arts
Center Feasibility Study.

The vision for Nashua’s Performing Arts Center has been developed and refined over many years with
great attention to detail. Nashua stands to benefit a great deal from this good work as we approach
execution in the months ahead. It is your dedicated work and diligence and through it that we will see the
Performing Arts Center thrive and in doing so bring more opportunities for enjoyment and economic growth
to our downtown and to our City as a whole. Thank you all for what you do continually to improve city life
not just with this piece of business but every day, every week that you dedicate yourselves to Nashua. This
is going to bring arts and culture to the citizens of Nashua and the surrounding area. We want to thank you

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for your continued support for making this community -driven vision a reality. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you. Next we have Kramer.

Nathan Theriault Sorry this is my first time. So | am taking part in this for the overnight parking, lowering of
the fine, I’d like to see it disappear to be honest. But lowering it | feel like is a great compromise. | know
we are talking a lot about the Art Center, you heard the term “starving artist”. Most of the people in the
community that is policed heavily by the overnight parking is the Tree Streets and Crown Hill and by the
way 28A Lowell Street, Nashua is my place of dwelling. Nathan Theriault is my name. So | see it a lot in
the morning, | see the tickets overnight. | mean | understand it’s a lot of revenue in the City but up until a
year ago we didn’t have 20 overnight parking enforcement officers or vehicles, it was policed by the Police
Department.

So we have created a business on ticketing people and the ones most ticketed are ones parking overnight
because they live in affordable housing in the City that has no overnight parking. So you are let to park on
the street. It’s not just people that live downtown, its people that work downtown. So it’s the people that
work at your Dunkin Donuts, it’s the people that — your favorite bartender. It’s your favorite server, those
people work downtown. Yeah they can park in the parking garage, most of the people in this community
are afraid to park in the parking garage. But we are having employees of local businesses downtown send
their employees to the parking garage to walk down there and go in there at 2:00 in the morning when most
of the people that are opposed to getting rid of the overnight parking ban and the ticketing wouldn’t go
down there themselves.

So | think it’s an unfair poor tax, | know Alderman Laws said that and people disagree, but for myself | have
an overnight parking pass but during COVID | paid for it but it took four weeks for them to process it in City
Hall. | got ticketed three times; | had to call every day, | took hours out of my day, waited to get call back a
week later and got ticketed even after | got my sticker because overnight parking department it was a new
person, they had never worked the street before. If we can’t process these tickets through City Hall, and
people can’t get an overnight parking pass and they are not even processing the mail for a week for
someone that paid their ticket but in 7 days their ticket goes up to $35.00, like | had the time to do it. Most
of the people in my neighborhood in French Hill do not have a computer, they do not have internet access,
they frankly just don’t’ have the time to deal with it. So | am against overnight parking tickets, but | would
take the compromise to help the people in my neighborhood and the people in the City that area or don’t
have a voice here tonight because one — they are probably working; two — they don’t have the internet or
they don’t have the time or even the knowledge that this is going on. So Nathan Theriault, 28A Lowell
Street, Nashua, New Hampshire, that’s my thing.

President Wilshire

Thank you Mr. Theriault. Next we have Tracy Pappas, you’re up Tracy, name and address for the record
please?

Tracy Pappas Tracy Pappas, 12 Swart Terrace, Nashua, New Hampshire. | am glad to call in on a night
where folks aren’t getting cut off by the Board President. | am here to speak regarding Public Comment
period and | also would like to speak regarding the overnight parking. So prior to 2017 members of the
public were permitted to speak during the first public comment period regarding new ordinances. This was
very helpful and the public was able to state their position to the entire Board of Aldermen before the
members had made up their mind regarding Legislation. Additionally, it was a way for other members of
the public to be aware of upcoming Ordinances. In 2017 this (inaudible) was put, was put on the public
comment period and as an example of this Board’s objection to listening to the public Additionally the Board
President began to object and interrupt members of the public with who she disagreed. Those she
disagreed with were interrupted, but before the five minutes were up, those she agreed with were not, were
able to go on for quite some period of time. The example | have is 12/23/19 | spoke regarding the DPW

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Facility. | was interrupted by the President several times. The Assistant Police Chief was allowed to go on
at length regarding a 3% raise for one of the unions which | have no problem with that gentleman being
able to speak to that, but | don’t think | should have been interrupted because | did have some very
important information and that was that those members of this Board who did go ahead and vote for the
office facility were ignoring our two facilities that were in most need of repair.

And in order to replace those facilities, that would be an extra $50 to $60 million dollars and | was unable to
state that. So | suggest that this Board send the Legislation back to Committee on Personnel and
Administrative Affairs and amend the Ordinance regarding the public comment period so that members of
the public are able to speak during the first reading of new Ordinances, because | think it’s really important
that the officials do listen to the public. If members of this Board don’t want to listen to the public perhaps
they should ascertain as to whether or not they want to run for office again.

Regarding overnight parking, | heard | was not going to speak to that. The last gentleman who spoke to it |
thought was very eloquent. | was very delighted to hear when we first allowed folks who have very limited
parking in the Tree Streets and in French Hill that they were able to do overnight parking. The initial plan
was to expand some of the parking so that other folks in the community would be able to park on the street
overnight. And | think due to COVID, a lot of people have, even if you have parking, children who would
normally be out on their own, like when | say “children” | mean in their 20’s but due to COVID there are not
jobs out there. So a lot of times it means starting your day moving cars all over the place and if there’s
plenty of parking that’s really not necessary. So | think reducing the parking, the overnight parking from
$25.00 to $10.00 | think is a good idea. And | haven’t even thought about how it impacted other people; it
was very upsetting to hear that this gentleman had an overnight parking permit and still had to pay fines
because it took so long for City Hall to react to those. So | fully support reducing the fine to $10.00 for
overnight parking. Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you, next speaker is Jonathan Spira-Savett.

Jonathan Spira-Savett Hi, | am Jonathan Spira-Savett, I’m in Ward 1, | live at 39 Colburn
Avenue. | am also the Rabbi at Temple Beth Abraham and one of the conveners of the Greater
Nashua Interfaith Housing Justice Group. | just wanted to speak just to stand behind Faustin who
spoke earlier as a resident of the Bronstein Apartments and to each the words that he said
supported by Bob and Erin too, hoping that all of you will use your good offices to make sure that
he and his neighbors are able to speak with you and all the appropriate people in authority to help
settle things and to make their lives good and for all of us to pitch in together and collaborate with
them on a good solution for our community as their area is redeveloped for more affordable
housing.

Our group had a chance to meet last week. | wanted to say publicly a thank you to Mayor
Donchess, to Director Marchant, to Director Cummings for sitting with a group of us talking about
these kinds of issues as they related both to Bronstein and School Street and everything else.
And just so encouraged by your increasing and increasingly vocal support for affordable housing
issues and goals. Thank you.

President Wilshire
Thank you. And | have a first name of Lisa? Is there a Lisa who would like to speak?

Lisa Bissonnette Can you hear me.

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President Wilshire
Yes, if you could give your name and address for the record please?

Lisa Bissonnette Thank you Madam President, my name is Lisa | Bissonnette, | work for a Real
Estate Development Firm at 30 Temple Street in Nashua and | am also the Board President of
City Arts Nashua, a Nashua-area non-profit organization that advances the arts. And | also sit on
Mr. Lannan’s organization, Nashua Community Arts which is involved in the development of the
Performing Arts Center.

| wanted to speak tonight in favor of the Legislation for the Performing Arts Center. | had a chance
to speak two weeks ago at the Budget Meeting so | won't repeat the remarks | made that evening.
But the Performing Arts Center adds much needed vitality to downtown Nashua. It creates lots of
jobs and it serves as a catalyst for people who want to live, work, stay and play in downtown
Nashua and for businesses who might want to open their business, relocate their business or
develop new business including affordable housing in downtown Nashua. It is a fantastic project.
It has been worked on very diligently for many years by many people including fantastic consultant
and wonderfully dedicated staff at the City and amazing volunteers who in difficult circumstances
have raised millions of dollars.

The New Market Tax Credits and the TIF Financing are creative solutions to funding the project
and we applaud their use in Nashua. They are used very successfully in many other communities
to bring forward successful projects. Thank you for your time.

President Wilshire

Thank you. | don’t’ see anyone else with their hand raised so | am going to make a last call for public
comment at this phase of the meeting. Is there anyone else?

Laurie Ortolano 41 Berkeley Street. I'll move through it quickly. Resolution 20-077 Indigenous People
Day | really believe that belongs on the ballot, that that should go out to the folks of the City to vote on.
Parking | am in support of the reduction of the ticketing for parking. | think it’s a great idea. | am sensitive to
the Mayor's comments regarding the loss of revenue and the budget issues. It you are going to support
this, | think you have to make the cuts in the positions, people, personnel to justify the reduction in the
revenue. And | think that’s fine but make certain you do both of those things if that’s going to be the case
and we just don’t keep ourselves heavy on people when we don’t have the work for them.

I'd like to jump over to Ordinance O-20-009, Public Comment. | have some real concerns with the language
of this and what the Legal Office brought forth. | agree with Ms. Pappas that | think the first Public Input
should be open for anything on the Agenda. | really think there’s a benefit to that to the community to allow
those comments to be made on any item being discussed; not just final approval because it will make
people more receptive to what is going to be voted on. And it will give more input to the Committee that’s
taking it off to review it.

| also think these comments that were made in the Personnel meeting regarding public comments; they are
not speeches, all discussion should be relevant to items that fall under the purview of the Board of
Aldermen or the Committee conducting the Hearing. You know, that’s very restrictive and it’s not easy for a
person coming in as a member of the public to even know that. So Alderman Dowd, | think you are way off
base when you make a statement like that. There are people tonight who dialed in who had pre-written
statements who essentially made speeches. And they were fine, you know, that should be ok and we
shouldn't be putting restrictions on that.

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The other thing | am really concerned about is the use of a light is great | think that’s awesome. | think
Alderwoman Kelly raised the issue of what we think is civil and what rude or profane remarks would be
prohibited. | have found President Wilshire very condemning on remarks that | have made that | feel were
unworthy. And just at the last meeting on the 22™, | addressed comments directly made by the Mayor in
his opening statement and she shut me off, she said, please stop directing your comments to the Mayor.
Well the Mayor opened up the discussion by speaking about two residents, one in particular, who had
placed all this hardship on the City with Right to Know Requests and opened up a discussion on the law
suit as a plaintiff that she had filed on the City. He made a lot of statements about these Right to Know
Requests that | happen to think weren't right.

| feel the door is open for the public to come back and comment on that. And to have Ms. Wilshire jump in
and say, don’t comment on the Mayor. That’s democracy and that’s a healthy debate that is happening
there. And it has happened to me repeatedly with this Board. You know, also this concept that language on
civil, rude, profane remarks was all put in by the Legal Office. | think that’s a big mistake. The Legal Office
is making Public Comment very restrictive in the City and this Ordinance is really tightening the screws
down over a period of four or five years that Mayor Donchess has been in office and | think it’s going
completely in the wrong way. And this latitude that you give to the President of the Board to shut people
down if she doesn’t like the comments. God knows it is happening to me. | have to fight for my time. |
don’t want to have to challenge this in Court, really, I've got enough on my plate. I’d like you to just let these
comments be opened up.

The concept that we don’t like — Alderman Lopez’s comments were disturbing to me. He wants everything
tucked in nice and neat and all pretty and everyone using good words and everything, you know, a
niceness policy works well for him. | think he’s out of touch. This concept that you can’t criticize individuals
is unconstitutional. And this concept that we should only be the public coming to the Board to discuss
matters that the Board covers, | don’t know what you cover. | had personnel issues. | went to the
Personnel Committee Meeting, they said, hey we don’t cover that. | went to the Human Resource guy, he
says, hey | don’t cover that. | come to the Aldermen you are upset because you don’t want it covered there.
| don’t Know where you cover this stuff and | really don’t give a crap. If | want to discuss it and | have
something to say about a personnel matter, | am going to come most likely to the Board to say it. Because
| am concerned; look at the stuff that | dug up. You’ve got 12 more sanctions that were brought down by
the DRA last week. At some point you should stop saying, it’s her; maybe there was something legitimate |
was talking about.

| also think Fred Teeboom made a very valid point. Start taking that light that’s going to be on the wall and
start using that on yourselves some of the time. Because there’s a lot of extraneous communication going
on at that table that could make these meetings a lot shorter. So | think you should bring this Ordinance

back into the Committee and think long and hard about Legal’s recommendation for some of the language

in here. They are not doing this City a favor when it comes to transparency and openness of Government.
Thank you.

President Wilshire

Thank you. Is there anyone else wishing to give public comment. Seeing none, Communication Requiring
Final Approval.

COMMUNICATIONS REQUIRING FINAL APPROVAL - None
PETITIONS - None
NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS

Appointments by the Mayor

The following Appointments by the Mayor were read into the record: