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We spend money on various things. The bulk of what we're doing right now is structural improvement - the majority of it
and base rate rehabilitation so it's like 70% of our budget right now. Again, we're trying to pull some of those roads in
poor condition up into a better condition and the remaining budget is maintenance efforts. With that now I'd like to turn it
over to Mark Saunders, Senior Staff Engineer, and he can kind of go into more details about how this program works
and the things that we need to do to make it happen.

Mark Saunders, Senior Staff Engineer

Thank you. So I'm going to take this presentation over for the next few slides. I'm going to start by talking about routine
preventative maintenance treatments. So as roadway networks improve, the preservation activities should increase.
This is to as Dan alluded to earlier, keep the good roads good. Several preservation techniques are currently being used
in the city such as crack sealing, but the goal is also to pilot several other treatments and through that determine which
works best for the community as well as the roadway network. So the treatments depicted above - the first one is crack
sealing. Like | said before, this is currently used throughout the city but crack sealant is the application of an asphalt
rubber compound to seal cracks and prevent moisture from entering in the cracks leading for further degradation.

The next one on the list is a fog sale. A fog sale - this is a full-width topical rejuvenator treatment that penetrates the
asphalt to soften the asphalt binder and rebind the aggregates to the roadway. This technology has been recently
piloted in the city over the last month.

The next two are a little more in depth and involved. The first one I'm going to be talking about is micro surfacing. This is
also a technique that has been used successfully in other neighboring communities. But micro surfacing is a mixture of
polymer modified asphalt emulsion and aggregates installed typically in two lifts on a properly prepared surface. This
treatment provides skid resistance, restricts moisture intrusion, protects the underlying structure from oxidation
unraveling, and this treatment restores roadway appearance.

The last treatment is the bonding wearing course. This has not been used in the city but we have talked to consultants
as well as other communities about this and we'd like to pilot it in the future but the bonded wearing course is done by a
spray paver application of a polymer modified asphalt emulsion compared with an ultrathin gap graded hot mix asphalt
overlay. This treatment is as close to a hot mix overlay that we see in the city that we use pretty regularly. So we don't
just pave a road because it's bad, we have to go through a significant coordination effort to clear these streets because
the last thing that we want to do is pave a road that needs any utility work. So under the pavement is a vast network of
utilities that consist of gas, water, sewer, storm facilities that need to be cleared through coordination in house and with
utilities. The Engineering Department works in house to clear the sewer and storm facilities. The main source of this
information is gathered through the use of video inspection. Any infrastructure that is reviewed that needs an open cut
repair, that roadway will be deferred until that repair is made.

The Engineering Department also worked closely with both gas and water to align their capital projects with our paving
schedule. This is so that the last operation on the road is the final paving. Projected paving lists are sent to utility
companies for screening before street selection and before the streets get put into a contract and go to bid.

So in addition to resurface in the roadway, a complete street approach is being taken on each road so that a street is
finalized once the project is complete. | was being addressed when possible a sidewalk access, roadway drainage,
traffic detection, sign replacement, pavement markings, and casting replacement. An effort is being made to reconstruct
access ramps of existing sidewalks within the project limit to be compliant with Americans with Disabilities Act. Existing
drainage issues are evaluated before and during construction and corrected where feasible. The extent of the drainage
correction is directly tied to the treatment of the road. Major intersections are evaluated for traffic camera detection
systems and other locations will have the underground loops replaced. An effort is being made to replace damaged or
faded regulatory and warnings signs. Once the road is final paved, both thermoplastic and retro reflective paint are used
to re-establish the pavement markings. Lastly, nonstandard sewer drain and catch basin castings are replaced.

The paving process. So the paving process from start to finish - it is a complex effort between the city contractors,
subcontractors, utilities, and constituents. I'm going to go over what it takes to pave a complete road. Not all roads are
created equal and some have more challenges than others .but this is the typical process. The first step before the
contractor mobilizes into town and after a contract is awarded is that a notification postcard is sent to the owners or
residents that abut the road schedule for paving. This postcard is sent to educate owners and residents about the city's
moratorium ordinance. Once the contractor is then ready to mobilize into town and sought a road, the first step is to
lower the structures. The contractor is responsible to low all sewer drain and catch basin structures in preparation of the
milling or reclamation effort. In addition to that, the utilities also have to hire subcontractors to lower their gas and water
gates. So at this point, the first step alone requires three different subcontractors to be working on the road.

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Once all the structures are lowered, the road is either milled or reclaimed. Both of these operations are large scale and
causes the most impacts. After this activity, the roadway is left either on a milled surface or gravel roadway. This activity
is also performed by a subcontractor. The road is then base paved. This provides a level surface that is as close to a
new road or feels like a new road but it's just the first layer. This base layer sets the profile, cross slope, and road
elevation for the final paving and the rest of the items listed here are completed after the binder course but before final
paving.

As roads get screened and selected, drainage issues are assessed. Drainage issues are solved in several ways but the
most common is to utilize grading. If a road is reclaimed, the road can be regraded to ensure a positive drainage. This
positive drainage is put to an area water can infiltrate back into the ground or directed to close drainage in place. Ifthe
road is milled, the shape of the road can only be altered slightly due to that treatments limitations. If drainage cannot be
solved by grading or infiltration, another option is to install closed drainage. This effort installs a catch basin and
connecting to existing storm water facilities. Installation of closed drainage is typically the last option given the schedule
impacts, costs, and continued maintenance.

During milling and reclamation, any underground traffic detection is cut and no longer serviceable. Detection is restored
either by the installation of a camera or replacement of the underground loops. Each of these each items are also done
by a subcontractor. A focus has been made to reconstruct the existing sidewalk ramps to comply with the Americans
with Disabilities Act. In order to construct these ramps, it takes multiple efforts and mobilizations. The first step is to
demolish the existing ramp and once the ramp is demolished, it can then be rough graded. After that ramp is rough
graded, it is then surveyed and stakes are set for proposed final grade to make sure it's in compliance with the tight
tolerances of the ADA.

So after the after the grade is set if there's any curbing, that now needs to be reset to match the roadway so that it's also
within the tolerances. After that, it is finally ready to be fine graded. After the ADA ramp is fine graded, it is now ready to
have concrete forms set up and once those are verified, the final step is to pour the concrete. Once the concrete is
poured, it needs time to cure and after it's cured the tie in between the new concrete ramp and the existing sidewalk is
paved in. Each of these activities takes a different mobilization and a different effort. So they're going to these ramps
multiple times.

Another item is berm. Berm is a tool that helps with drainage and erosion control. Berm is reinstalled in historical
locations as well as locations that are susceptible to roadway erosion or to protect a low lying area but below roadway
grade. Erosion can undermine the edge of road and reduce the overall life. Before final paving, all the structures that
were dropped at the beginning now need to be raised to their final elevation to facilitate that final paving. This now
requires another mobilization of three different subcontractors. So after all that, the road is ready to be final paved. The
final lift of asphalt will tie all these other items however, the road is not complete. If there's any pavement markings on
the road, they all then need to be laid out and painted by a specific contractor that specializes in roadway painting.
Lastly, the final steps is to restore any landscaping, backup any curbing, and to clear the streets of any safety or traffic
control devices. So to recap in order to pave a road, it's a complex coordination effort between multiple parties and this
is without any unforeseen conflicts or weather delays. So at this time, I'll turn the presentation back over to Engineer
Hudson.

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Thank you Mark. Very, very complicated process and we appreciate what Mark does. Mark is kind of the hub of the
wheel that runs this program and is instrumental in making this thing work. So thank you, Mark.

So in conclusion, our recommendations are to continue with this multi-year paving program. We intend to come back
next summer and ask for funding for the next five years or the remaining five years of the 10 year plan as originally
outlined. We look to expand our routine and preventative maintenance. The city is making significant investment in its
paving and we want to protect that and preserve that so it lasts as long as possible. We look to continue our network
assessment. Again, it's how we measure what we're achieving. It's how we monitor the conditions of the roadway
network and evaluate what needs to be done and when. So with that, I'd be happy to entertain any questions.

Alderman Klee

Thank you, Madam President. Mr. Hudson, | just have two questions and | actually think I'm going to ask my second one
first because | do think you did answer it already. That question is if you come back and we do another five years, you're
going to do it exactly the same way with the same scoring type of and we would, you know, some roads we may do seal
cracking if that's necessary. Some we'll have to mill or reclaim and so on. We would do it in the same manner, correct?

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Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Yeah, absolutely. The measurement of PCI is a national standard so we will still score all the roads the same way. As
we do this program, we continue to learn. We continue to improve. As Mark mentioned, we've been trying to do a more
complete street project lately. So we keep expanding and modifying the program but the assessment methodology is
the same.

Alderman Klee

Madam President may | have some follow ups? Thank you. | appreciate that. One of the things | noticed - I'm just
gonna use one of the streets in my Ward was Glendale where you did the sidewalk. Right there on the edge, you put in
the tip down, the ADA ramp, and so on. One of the things - and | know part of is because of weather - that probably all
of us got the most complaints about was that there'd be a sign up that say, “It's gonna start June 1*“and then come July,
they still haven't started. But then they do start and then it's not until September because you have these multiple
contractors doing different - so | can say like Maywood and Glendale were two that | experienced close to my home.
How many contractors on average do you have in a particular road? | mean, this one here, we saw that they brought it
down to dirt. Then someone came through, as you said, and put that first layer in that looked like the road, but we knew
it wasn't because it was still too low, and then somebody else came through weeks later. Glendale actually kind of
started like June and they just - they actually they haven't just finished, they're still working on it. So you know, I'm
getting a lot of the neighbors that are saying what's the status on that and why don't we get updates? It would be too - |
know -too cumbersome for you to do at all but is that normal?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Yeah unfortunately it's challenging and the scheduling is an issue and that is normal. We do the best we can. We do
send out a weekly status about what roads we intend to work on that coming week and what the effort is on those, but it's
a continually changing thing. The milling when they mobilize to do milling, they try to mill a number of roads because
they bring in a big machine and that machine can be here all summer. So they mill a bunch of streets. So that may be
why you see the milling and then you don't see an activity for a while. But then all those other efforts that Engineer
Saunders mentioned have to occur and the contractor has to sub out that a lot of that work. So like the ramps in
particular, that's a subcontractor. It's been a very challenging year. Everyone in the industry - construction industry is
suffering from staffing issues. Of course, we're still dealing with COVID issues. There's been a whole host of challenges
this year. So we've been doing a big program and this has been a more challenging year than others. So there have
been roads that have been open a long time and we do understand why people get frustrated with that. It is frustrating.
It’s frustrating for us because we'll tell somebody, hey, we're going to be paving your road next week and then situations
happen outside of our control and we're not able to do that. So it is frustrating. We always struggle with that, you know,
trying to give enough information or as good information, but it's continually changing. So it is it is a hard thing to do
communication when it's continually changing.

Alderman Klee

Just one quick follow up. You can't see that I'm smiling underneath this mask but you guys are doing a great job and |
want to say that the contractor who are around my home were very accommodating to my neighbors and so on. One
was moving and they made sure that there was no activity going on the day she was moving in and moving out. They
had to build a temporary ramp for her to be able to get into a driveway. They did good things like that. And then when
we did have that leak, you were very responsive and got somebody out there to kind of take care of that issue. | do
understand exactly what’s going on and | hope the public can understand but you can understand it’s frustrating when
you have to keep going over these bumps and you're not sure when it's going to be going. | personally do send out that
list that Lauren is kind enough to send us and | believe many of my other colleagues do the same thing too. You put it
on your website and so on. But think they just get frustrated when they see this street is going to be on and then two
weeks later, nothing is happening on it. So thank you so much for all that you're doing.

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Thank you. Yeah | understand all of that completely. Of course, we have weather issues too. So there are a lot of
challenges. We do the best we can, but we appreciate everyone's patience. | think when we leave, we leave a good
product and | think for the most part people are happy with it. So if you just continue to bear with us as we get through
the process, we appreciate that.

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Alderman Klee

Thank you.

Alderman Lopez

As the Ward that last summer and the summer before got to experience the sinkholes, | think while it is definitely
uncomfortable and difficult people have to drive down like Kinsley Street and those kinds of streets and there's work in
progress, it's for a good cause and people generally understand that.

Earlier during your presentation, you were talking about berms and this is something that residents have discussed with
Public Works but as we do this and we're in your five, new members of the public are being impacted by the repaving.
When repaving processes raise or adjust the height of the road or result in changes in water flow and neighbors get
water delivered from the road down their driveway, who should they turn to and what kind of help can they get?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

So they can reach out to us and Mark Saunders or Lauren Byers is a great resource. She'll get in contact with us. But
yeah not everything goes perfect so sometimes we have to go back and make some adjustments. We're always - our
ears are always open. We're willing to come out and meet with people and try to address the situation.

Alderman Tencza

Thank you. So two questions. One - it's quite a process to pave the streets. Does the city have somebody who is like a
compliance officer at each step that verifies that the contractor has complied with the terms of the contract and they can
move on to the next step?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Yes. Mark is in the field often and we also contract a local engineering company - Hayner Swanson - who helps us with
that. They have somebody in the field every day during work. Of course, works occurring in a number of locations so
they have to kind of follow it around but they're there. They're watching full time and then Mark is in and out of the office
multiple times a day trying to try, you Know, respond to issues, and oversee, and ensure things are going according to
the specifications.

Alderman Tencza

If | may just, you know, to follow up on what Alderman Lopez was asking about just to give an example. In my
neighborhood Ward 8, there are issues all over the place with rainwater, storm water runoff especially one of the roads
that was just paved. | had reached out to the Director and to Ms. Byers and it was amazing how responsive they were.
believe Sunshine Paving was the company that had done the original paving of Vieckas Road in my neighborhood.
They came back, you know, put up some curbing which greatly reduce the water runoff for the neighbors. Came back,
you know, fill filled in, put down loam and seed and everything and it looks great and has alleviated the problem. So |
think that anybody who has issues, you know, should feel free to reach out to Public Works because you folks are - not
that we don't have great departments - but you folks are probably the most responsive in a lot of ways when there are
issues. So thank you.

Alderman Dowd

Yes | know the answer this, but it's just for the public. There are some streets that have been paved that were not out of
the city funding. For instance, on Charlotte Avenue on the safe routes to school was done by a grant. A lot of
improvements were made to Charlotte Avenue under that grant but it was not part of city funding. It took us five years to
get the funding but we finally got it. You guys did a great job at Charlotte Avenue. | assume there may be other areas of
city that roads have been done by a grant?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Yes. Earlier in the program, we got a federal paving grant so we did about $4 million of paving through that. But yeah,
there's a lot of projects going on, different grant funding. We try to coordinate efforts as we can, you know. If we have a
project going on such as Charlotte Ave. and that covers the area in front of school but the rest of the street needs to be
paid. We try to coordinate and tie in that together so that the whole area there can be done at once. | Know our Street

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Department came in and did some sidewalk paving after the fact for some sidewalks that weren't covered under that
grant. So we do the best to plan these projects out and leave complete products the best we can.

Alderman Dowd

Yeah, the other thing, I'd like to thank you for your coordination. We had many, many conversations about Cleveland
Street and you waited to pave that street as soon as we were done to the Fairgrounds Middle School so that all tied
together. That worked out exceptionally well so thank you very much for that coordination.

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

You're welcome. Just talking about the drainage a little bit. If people see that their roads on a list coming up, we
encourage you to reach out to us and tell us about existing issues before we get there and we'll try to do the best we can
to improve conditions. As Engineer Saunders said, when we're doing a reclaim or regrading the whole road that gives us
more opportunity to make fixes. If we're just doing, you know, a mill where we're taken out a couple inches and putting
back a couple inches, we'll do we can but there is a limitation to how many things, you know, how completely we can fix
problems that are existing.

Alderman Schmidt

Thank you, Madam President. Thank you for paving. Really. Cider. | Know it intimately because it's how | get through
my neighborhood. I've noticed that once the milling was completed, that you found a great deal of problems along the
berm, divots, and just stones, and bits. You actually had to take extra time there to fill those in to actually prepare it well
and fill it in and it's made a huge difference. I've noticed. The water problems people have had in the past that I've
gotten calls on, you've always managed very well and | really appreciate it.

My message would be if everybody could just if they see a problem, let us know as soon as possible because it's so
much easier to fix now than it will be later. Could | ask how many projects you have going on right now in the city -
paving projects?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Oh boy. So | mean we do some in-house paving through our Street Department. This year we put out two paving
contracts and they were both awarded to the same company. It's a lot of paving. | mean it is a big program. The city is
running to its credit, maybe playing a little catch up, restoring (inaudible) but it's about 23 miles this year. So that's a lot
of roads to touch and do all that coordination that Engineer Saunders mentioned and have it all come out in good shape.
Alderman Schmidt

Excellent. Just one more thing, thank you for Coliseum Avenue.

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Finally got that paved.

Alderman Schmidt

Thank you.

Lisa Fauteux, Director of Public Works

Commissioner Pappas is on the call and she can't unmute herself. She does have a couple of questions, so I'm
wondering if it would be possible for her to ask her questions.

President Wilshire
Sure.

Lisa Fauteux, Director of Public Works

But | don't know how to unmute. Can we unmute her?

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Jeff Poehnert, PEG Manager

That would be *6.

Lisa Fauteux, Director of Public Works

She tried that and she said it didn't work.
Jeff Poehnert, PEG Manager
Well then | don't have an answer there.

Lisa Fauteux, Director of Public Works

Okay. She's on the zoom call, but she's on a landline and she's tried the *6 and she's said it didn't work. We can't
unmute her? No.

Jeff Poehnert, PEG Manager

No, | cannot unmute.

Lisa Fauteux, Director of Public Works

Okay.

Alderman Klee

Can she text the question?

President Wilshire

Alderwoman Lu do you want to ask a question while we're waiting?

Alderwoman Lu

Well | do have questions and she could also text me the question if she would like to.

How many miles are to be repaved in the next five years? Will that be the balance to 300 or fewer?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

It would be fewer. | mean, we've done 113. That's about through half the program. So we would expect to do a similar
amount.

Alderwoman Lu

Okay. All right. And what's the life of a road? Or is that impossible to say, it depends on - so if that's impossible to say,
could you tell me the average life of a highly traveled road?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Highly traveled roads have the most traffic, the heaviest traffic and that's what you know that fatigues a road over time.
There are many factors as you can imagine but | mean a good paved road, 12 years plus or minus on a heavy arterial.

Alderwoman Lu
And what about a minimally traveled like a side street, a residential side street?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

It can be up to 20 years. Yeah.

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Alderwoman Lu

Okay. And can | just ask a couple questions? Could a resident learn their road score?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Sure if they want to call us, we'll share what we have for information. Sure.

Alderwoman Lu

Okay. And another. What are the moratorium rules? | know that there are some. I've heard the term. Could you
explain that just so | have a better understanding?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Sure. I'd be happy to. So the city ordinance stipulate that if a road has been paved, then it goes into a five-year
moratorium against cutting into the street, you know, activities such as installing, you know, utility, that type of thing. A
driving work that might impact the roadway. So there's a five-year period where we're not allowed to cut into the street
unless you get a waiver from that which you need to get from the Board of Public Works. So people can apply if they
have a hardship condition and that will be considered by the Board of Public Works.

Alderwoman Lu
Okay. Could | just ask a couple of other smaller questions? So | never - that was new to me and | haven't been sending
out the schedule of paving to my Ward. Is that moratorium issue mentioned in the notice that goes out about the paving?

It is?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Yeah, absolutely. That's one of the main purposes of sending it out. We want to give people a fair warning. It's not
years in advance warning but as much as we can give them that this is a pending thing. So if there's anything that they
need to do - say they have a really old sewer service that they think is going to need to be replaced, then the time to do it
would be before we come and do the paving.

Alderwoman Lu

Okay. | just have two other quick questions. When the State roads are done, is that the city that's actually, you know, is

it our contracted people? Is it the same quality and same process - like the overpasses or is that a totally different, you
know, oversight that's doing that work?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Its different folks doing the work so the State does their own. | mean, they hire contractors but they do their own
oversight. We follow the same specifications so it's the same. The pavement mixes that we specify are the State
specifications so very similar.

Alderwoman Lu

Great, thank you. I’m all set.

Alderman Jette

So after we complete this 10-year program, will all those streets in the city have been repaved?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

We probably will have visited everyone and done either a maintenance treatment or paving but no, we won't have milled
and paved every street.

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Alderman Jette

So will this have to be repeated? Are we going to be spending this kind of money after we finish this 10-year program
will we be starting another 10-year program and revisiting all the streets again?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

It's a fair question. | don't think that's the plan. This program was projected to kind of like | said earlier, play a little bit of
catch up because we had full fallen behind. Once we do that, then we'll be in a state (inaudible) into a maintenance
mode. The city will always need to be paving. Every year you should be paving so you're trying to keep up because the
roads are degrading every year. It's like, you know, paint on your house is degrading every year. It needs to periodically
be repainted and the same is true for roadway. No matter how much preservation and maintenance we do, there will
always be roads that need paving.

The goal here is to through this significant effort the city's making, like | said, like catch up get the majority of roads in
good condition and then we'll be able to do more maintenance which is less costly. So in the long run, this will be
financially beneficial to the city. The city will save money over time by having done this and then do more maintenance,
preservation efforts in the future but there will always be paving.

Alderman Jette

But the degree of reconstruction won't be necessary to do as much in the future?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Yes, that is the intent. You bring the roads up in a good condition; you keep them there, but there will be roads that need
repaving so you do that, but you're doing less of it. You're not paving as many roads at atime. So you're, you know, the
cost of your annual paving effort can be reduced.

Alderman Jette
Thank you.
Alderman Klee

Thank you again, Madam President. Couple of questions, a couple of comments. First off, I'd like to say thank you for
the letters that you do send out with the explanations and so on. I've gotten a number of people that have called me and
said, do we know when they're going to be doing it because | want to get my road paved? | had one constituent who
actually wanted to bring gas line into their home, which meant going into the street and so on. So they made sure that
they get that done timely. So it was it was very helpful and they didn't get... We also had one that was on Concord Street
that was a build after it had been a year or so ago when it when it got paved and we were able to figure out a way of
them doing it from a side street rather than coming in from Concord. So it does help to have that information, even if it's
after the fact.

The other comment that | wanted to make was in the case of flooding. | Know you said that you can't always fix it and |
know we have a lot of homes that are below grade. Their driveways are below grade and we've had that. When you did
your paving, you built berms by their driveways to stop that from going through and | had one — not the same street - on
Birchwood that had flooding that was in front of their home. So whenever anybody walked it, it iced up and so on. It was
last year and this year you brought someone in to fix it. So, again, it was Sunshine Paving. Fingers crossed that it did
work this time but | do appreciate that even though it took a while to do it, | do appreciate that. So | just wanted to kind of
give you the kudos for that. It takes a while, people get frustrated but we do see that the work is happening. So thank
you.

Dan Hudson, City Engineer
Thank you.
Alderman Dowd

Yeah, those of us that have been around a little while realize that the reason we get into the position of having to spend
so much for paving was because in an effort to save money, previous administrations didn't pave enough streets every

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year. So the idea is when we went through this bonding to catch up, that we would have a program going forward that
we stayed ahead of the paving program and we weren't trying to do little patches here and there because it's pay me
now or pay me a lot more later. | look forward to DPW coming up with that program to keep us in a good stead on
paving going forward.

President Wilshire

As long as we fund their budget and they ask for paving. | think that's the secret. Someone had their hand up on the
side.

Alderwoman Lu

| had one more question. Thank you. If you had to make a rough guess what portion of the streets are the 12-year
streets, the major arteries?

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Well, we've been focusing a lot on those in this first five years. | think you'll find them mostly arterials we've been brought
up into a better condition because those are the most heavily traveled. So in this first five years, | think it's about over
30% of our program has been on arterials.

Alderwoman Lu

Well, | meant to ask of the 300 miles in Nashua how many are those arterial, you know, 12 -year scheduled? | know that
you might not have that figure but if you if you thought you could throw it out there that would be great. I'm just curious.

Dan Hudson, City Engineer

If | had to wager a guess, I'd say 20%. | don't know. It's been 30% of this first five years and as | said we've focused on
those a lot. So as a percentage of the total network, it's going to be less than that.

Alderwoman Lu
Okay, thanks.

Alderman Lopez

Just along those lines because there are parts of it with some pretty large potholes. We did pave Main Street just a
couple of years ago, right, and there are plans coming up to do it again?

Dan Hudson City Engineer

Yes. We recognize that there's a need to paint Main Street. We're trying to develop a program to do that. There is utility
work that needs to be done. You've seen Liberty Utilities out there. They have all cast iron gas main. Per PUC, they're
required to get rid of that within the next five years. So they need to do some work and then we can come in and do
some paving. It's a big street obviously and we'll probably end up phasing that in a few different years and develop the
program. That is something that we're trying to work out the details of right now.

Alderman Lopez
So it has not escaped attention. There's a plan. It's just complicated and we're working on it?
Dan Hudson, City Engineer

Correct.

Alderman Lopez
Okay.