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Board Of Aldermen - Minutes - 11/20/2017 - P11

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system. They put through the first electronic record. | can say nothing bad about them. So if you thought that |
did, then my apologies. As far as the nursing home, you're right. | should have said that Hillsborough is the only
one in the black. When | spoke to them in accounting and | worked with DHHS, they’re still not getting paid
timely. They are in the black and they do a phenomenal job, but they were not getting paid timely. They had
some cases that were open for over a year that weren’t being paid. You're right on the things that you said. You
just misunderstood what | meant. It’s just they’re still not getting paid.

And as far as not getting the amount of money to mental health doctors and so on, we are paying less than
others. There’s no reason for them to come into the state of New Hampshire when they can go to Massachusetts
or Vermont. That much you must know, you must agree with me on that. Yes, | think the VA is second to none.
We only hear bad things about it, but | can tell you after working with them for as many years as | did —| started
from the bottom and worked my way up. | was part of the Veteran’s Integrated Service Network, which was all of
the New England VA’s. | went from Togus all the way down to West Haven to Providence. | dealt with every
single one of the hospitals and | have nothing but wonderful things to say about them.

Representative Harvey

| just want to chime in about the Hillsborough County nursing home, which | have great respect for. It’s been run
by a great director who recently left, but it is running in the black and that’s great. But among the Hillsborough
County delegation, there’s great reluctance, understandably, to raise county taxes. So when we don’t raise
county taxes or raise them infinitesimally, the services may not get what they need. The biggest problem that |
see at both the correction center on Volley Street and the nursing home, that we hear over and over again, is
when they put out word for openings for jobs, people don’t want them because they can get better money
elsewhere. They might come there and get trained as newbies and then they go on. | think, again, it comes back
to New Hampshire — and we hear this all the time in the legislature - New Hampshire is a very wealthy state and
very cheap state.

Alderman Lopez

| was actually going to make a comment similar to what was being expressed. In attracting workers to the
healthcare area, | think what we could do is look at their licensure and make sure that it’s not unachievably
counterintuitive. If people are working on a licensure requirement that they can go over the border and complete
the same licensure for 200 less hours where they’re not getting paid, and they’re spending money on internship
costs and that kind of thing, they’re going to do that. So looking at the different licensing requirements and
making sure that we stay absolutely competitive in terms of the quality, but not counterproductive in terms of the
rigidity, and make sure if we don’t have enough nurses, LNA’s or people working with the elderly, then those are
areas where those licensures need to be examined to make sure they’re not getting in the way of people who are
special and want to make a difference and are passionate about doing that type of work but aren’t necessarily
special enough to jump through every hoop that is put in front of them.

Senator Lasky

Alderman Lopez, that has just been passed in this last session, that if you are licensed in another state,
particularly Massachusetts, then there will be reciprocity without going through the added hoops that had been
necessary. Hopefully, that will help alleviate some of the lack of help that we’ve had here.

Alderman Lopez

That’s a very good step and |’m glad to hear it. But what | was specifically speaking of was the New Hampshire
licensure requirements. So now I’m kind of wondering if people are going to try to get their licensure in
Massachusetts, thinking they can transfer it to New Hampshire, and then not necessarily choosing to because
you can get paid more competitively in Massachusetts. | still think looking at our State’s licensing requirements
in areas where there is a definite need and making sure that we haven’t created a barrier by asking too much of
people trying to enter a new field, is this something we should do. And then also, making sure that we’re
retaining professionals by making sure that the licensure we have is necessary and at least consistent with the
states around us.

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Senator Lasky

Well, partly, we’re going to retain them by giving them a living wage, which we don’t do that very well.
Representative Mangipudi

In continuing with the licensing, | just wanted to ask if the clarification in terms of is the state still underserved,
because especially in mental health and the healthcare fields, the doctors and mental health workers and
psychiatric stuff, because there’s an acute shortage of psychiatric in the state in general, and particularly the
Nashua area. And if QA’s like Harbor Homes and stuff had a special way of getting people from outside, not
necessarily outside the country but outside the state, because there was no federal reciprocity. That was one of
the things that Southern New Hampshire Medical Center was looking at, to see if we can have legislation to
strengthen, that the federal reciprocity for doctors and mental health workers. | have to look at that bill that
passed with the reciprocity for nurses and stuff and see if that holds good for doctors, too, because the licensing
for doctors is a very elaborate process, and if other states are doing it as a federal registry, federal licensing, and
that goes across.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

| would just like to follow-up on Senator Lasky’s comment. So the reciprocity you were talking about was across
medical licensing? Nurses?

Senator Lasky

It was psychologists and sociology. It wasn’t M.D.’s.
Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

And not Allied Health professionals?

Senator Lasky

Because | believe there already is reciprocity with that, and that would be up to the Board of Medicine.
Alderman O’Brien

If | may change gears, bring up another different subject matter, currently and to let you know, there is a
bicentennial committee that’s meeting with the pension system right now that’s occurring up there at the State
House. Why is that important? Let’s look at what happened in the municipal budget this year. They wanted to
make well the fast track, or whatever you want to call it, in the pension system, to the tune to the City of Nashua
of $2 million. If the budget was going up, let’s say, $3 million but we had to take $2 million to pay to State to
cover the costs for our obligations with the pension system, and the State has to get their money from the City,
that would have brought us into a problem. We have a pending court case we’re waiting to hear on and a way
that we tried to tried to solve it here in the city, but the problem is the $2 million obligation still hasn’t gone away,
and it’s going to be there next year and the next couple of years. And the problem with that is whose fault is it?
Well, we fought two wars, and anybody that has a 401k or anything and looking at their own personal
involvement in the stock market can see now the thing seems to be doing well. But you can see what happened
we went through a period of time. And the pension system which relies very heavily on the stock market, just as
much as your 401k does. So it is a mirror and does reflect on everything else that occurs with it.

So other changes have been made in positive, but | would like to bring that up, as we’re going to see what’s
going to come out of this committee. What is it going to bring back to us in the city, from our delegation and
everything, and to our obligations to further into the pension system? | kind of understand we’re somewhere
around the 67%, it’s in the 60’s. | also sit on the pension board for the DPW and we're at 83%. We seem to be
running that in our city pension system, the DPW, very well. | don’t Know what’s happening with the 400 people
up at the State. We’re going to have to watch this particular commission, see what it comes down to. And I’d like
to remind the delegation: 35 percent of the economic economy that goes to the state of New Hampshire comes

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from the metro Manchester/Nashua region. Yet when we come up and bring things such as commuter rail, they
don't give us the time of day. Yet the good people of someplace like Bartlett or some other places where they
live, they rely on us for their education. Every lottery ticket that gets sold in the city of Nashua, and how many
lottery tickets do you think get sold, how many Keno will be played in the future in the city that will go back to
some other city and town? | would like to encourage the delegation to bond together, talk to our friends from
other parts. | know Alderman McCarthy and | have good communication with people that we sit in the House
and sit on the Aldermanic board. We worked with the Safe Station initiatives. But talk to your peers up there and
try to sow the Nashua idea, which is very important. Try to get them to realize that they don’t just roll their eyes
and say, “Oh, there’s Nashua again,” that Nashua has particular needs. We're the ones with workforce housing. |
don’t see workforce housing in some other parts of the state, yet it’s here. | see we are very fortunate to have two
veterans’ homes for people who have some difficulties. | don’t see them in other communities within a 20-mile
radius

So Nashua has broad shoulders and we have done well to be part of the state. And | think that if we band
together and talk to our friends up there and try to get the initiative to come back and try to help us out,
particularly when it’s going to affect our taxpayers, such as that Fast Track which didn’t need to be done so
acutely. But the $2 million annually is a big chunk to our taxpayers right here in the city.

President McCarthy

| think it’s important to note the $2 million is the uplift in this year alone. If you look at the scope of the problem,
we believe our actual steady state contribution to the pension system to keep it running is $8 million a year. The
check we're writing this year is for $23 million. There’s an additional $15 million in the get-well costs for the
pension plan, and that uplift of $15 million has come over the last six or seven years and has been a tremendous
burden in a capped budget to be able to do anything else that the city needs.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

Just to Alderman O’Brien’s comment about working together with your fellow representatives, if you look at
what’s happening in southern New Hampshire, we are starting to come together more and more as a larger
regional group. You look at our bus system and what we’re doing with Milford, and interest in working outside of
the city limits. Not only are we generating the additional dollars from Nashua, because of what’s happening in
this region, we’re generating even more dollars. And it’s important to work with people within the region — from
Milford, from Hollis, from Brookline, from Hudson, from Litchfield — and say, “Look, we as a region are starting to
share some benefits and some concerns, and we need to band together to make sure those dollars are flowing
here.” | have people in Hudson say to me all the time, “/Vhat’s going to happen when that development goes in
on Bridge Street?” And I’m like, “Well, there’s a plan for a rotary.” So it’s really important that we start looking
outside of the city of Nashua and start thinking more regionally, because we are working more regionally and
things are happening across our region. | think that’s another piece that we need to look at as we look at what
dollars are being generated, not only in Nashua but in southern New Hampshire; just within our region that’s
covered by the Regional Planning Commission. What’s being generated here and how much of it is coming
back, to address keeping our economic engine going?

President McCarthy

When you look at Nashua at the anchor for the region, there are a lot of services that are provided by Nashua.
We're the major source of social services and of safety nets, etc. Unfortunately, the costs of that are borne
solely by the Nashua taxpayers, even though we’re providing a regional service. At some point, there has to be
some way to deal with that. In fact, revenue from the state would normally be the way that would be handled.

Alderman-Elect Jette

On a slightly different tact, but kind of along the same lines, what is the feeling among the delegation about this
bill that is coming up about the scholarship program, where people can apply to this nonprofit scholarship
program and get money? That scholarship program can take money from the city, that the State provides to the
city to educate students, and give it to a private individual to homeschool their child or send their child to a
private school. Where does that stand? How is that going to affect us, we taxpayers in Nashua?

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Senator Lasky

Alderman-Elect, did you mean by having public funds going to private and religious schooling? The bill that was
just passed out of committee, is that what you’re referring to?

Alderman-Elect Jette

Yes.

Senator Lasky

| am wholly against it. | think if this continues it could be the death nail for public education. | think we support
alternative schooling. | think there is an obligation for that, but for public funds to go to religious schools and
private schools, | think it is a violation of the separation of Church and State, and it is, again, going to hurt our
public schools, where | believe the funds should go. Yes, to address problems within the public schools. But
they’re never going to get fixed if we continually take away from what they need to have. | will fight that bill, if it
should come forward.

Representative Mangipudi

In terms of funding that, the way | understand is every dollar that is taken out of public schools, say 100 students
come out of public schools there are 12,000 students, they come from 16 different schools, the infrastructure, the
maintenance and the staffing cannot reduce, but the funding is being drained from the public schools. So we
have to look at the bigger picture. | am totally against it because it only takes a small portion. If my child gets
$2,500 to go to a private school, show me which good private school takes $2,500 to educate my child? It’s not
quality education, it’s a feel-good. This is a, “We're doing the right thing. We're giving the parents a choice.” But
we are not giving the parent a choice, and we are depleting the resources that are coming to the public schools.
The infrastructure, the funding system for staff and all of that cannot be cut in public schools with 100 or 200
people going away from that. So in that aspect, we have to highlight if the delegation is not on board, because
we have to come together as a delegation of a city of this size. And as long as we can back that up, and it’s
about what’s good for Nashua. It’s not about party line.

Representative Klee

The issue that | have with it is we have a Constitution that basically says we cannot use tax dollars for religious
schooling or anything of that nature. | think we kind of play a game because we have our education fund that
comes from lottery and other kinds of money, so they can probably play the word game and say they’re not using
tax dollars for it. But the bottom line is we're still funding religious schooling and so on. I’m very much against it. |
would be fighting it as much as | possibly can. It’s come out of committee and we'll see where it goes from there.

Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

About two months ago, you couldn’t go anywhere and talk to anyone who had even a slight sense of what was
going on in the state who wasn’t talking about Amazon and where they were going to be, and New Hampshire’s
chance of landing Amazon. | listened on the radio one morning and to my surprise | heard the Governor talk
about, “Well, we'll start investigating rail’ because Amazon wants rail. | think there are many of us in the city and
across the state who have understood that rail is important. It’s an economic driver. And we all hear about
millennials not wanting cars, but | tell you what, when | go to a city where | have good public transportation, |
don’t rent a car. | use the cabs, | use the buses, and | use the subways. And | don’t even need my Smart phone.
| can walk up and read it, figure out which stop | need, and it works. And when I’m in a country where English
isn’t the major language, | can read the map and figure out where to go.

But we all knew rail was important and all of a sudden, we’re going to start looking at rail, instead of being kind of
shovel ready and knowing what we were doing. | bring this up because we moved here 20 years ago and in
some ways it seems like I’ve been here forever, and in other ways we’re quite new here. But one of the things
we did when we looked at where we were going to live in relationship to where my husband was going to be
working at Lockheed Martin, because we were coming here with a five-year-old daughter and we hoped to be

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here to get her through 6" grade; now she’s 26 and a graduate of Nashua High South, we didn’t say what are the
parochial schools like, what are the private schools like. We said what are the public schools like. And to this
day, when | meet young families and talk to people, one of the questions that comes up is what are the public
schools like in Nashua. Just walking my Ward | ran into a family with a little girl in a stroller, she was probably 18
months or two years old. We had this conversation about the public schools. They said, “Yeah, our neighbors up
the street send all their kids to public schools, so we’re feeling good about the public school here.”

| think we need to think about everything we do with a bigger lens, and realize that it’s not just | want my child to
be homeschooled: | want them to go to parochial school. And | have to say my daughter went to Nashua
Catholic. | paid for it, it was my choice. She went there and then she went back to South. But we have to realize
public school is important. When people are moving into communities and buying homes. If you’ve moved, you
know all of the expenses of setting up a new household, having a good quality public school is really important.
And it’s important for our neighborhoods because that’s where our kids get together and that’s where we get
together as families and form a community.

So | would just encourage you to have conversations with your colleagues about the benefits of public education
and the importance of public education from an economic development perspective. Because the checklist isn’t
how many good parochial schools are there within 50 miles, or where are my employees going to send their kids,
because they probably don’t want to pay their employees to pay the tuition either.

Senator Lasky

This country has been founded on — one of the things | believe that has made this country great over the years is
our public education system, and is the fact that regardless of what religion you are, what ethnic background,
whatever, you are entitled to a public education. That is not the case. If you choose to send your child to a
private school or a religious school, so be it. More power to you. |, myself, sent my girls to private school; there
were extenuating circumstances. And each child has individual needs. We need to, | believe, instead of trying to
take away from our public school system we should make sure it is the best that it can be for every child in the
state and this country. We are depleting it by trying to make it fairer for those who choose to send their children
elsewhere, have the opportunity to send their children elsewhere. But it’s not, in my mind, what education should
be in this country. So | respect we have charter schools, | respect we are trying to do our best to make
advantages for each child in this state, because they are all different. But | do not believe it should be at the
expense of our public school system.

Representative Schmidt

| think it’s pretty clear that this bill is a priority for the Governor. | think that is a real danger up at the State House,
and | think anything anyone can do from this table to talk to people and let them know about the problems with
the bill — the bill is faulty, it's been stated that by the Chair of the committee as they passed it. They said the bill
was faulty and they’d fix it later. | think we have to make sure that we spread the word that this is not a good bill
for the state. But more than that, this bill is just simply a bad bill and should never become law.

Alderman LeBrun
| would like to make an announcement that Hillsborough County Executive Committee has accepted two ratified
contracts from the nursing home union and another union. We have determined that we will pass them on to the

Hillsborough County full delegation. I’m looking at January 10 at 6:00 p.m. as the next possible full delegation
meeting to ratify those contracts.

President McCarthy

Are these meetings useful? Should | have another one in three or four months?

Alderman Dowd

| think they’re useful but | wish we would get more of the State delegation here. | think | only see one

Republican, | could be wrong. Better yet, how many are here versus the total number from Nashua? | venture to
guess we don’t even have half here.

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Unidentified Speaker

Is there a better time of the day maybe to meet for State reps?

Representative MacKay

A couple things. One, | was remiss in stating that | represent Ward 3. | wanted to clear that up. | have a couple of
questions. What are the City of Nashua’s biggest issues that they would like we, as the State delegation, to
understand? How do we come together with the Aldermen and the delegation when there is an issue? There’s
legislation right now, | think it’s HB 92, and that has to do with the building codes and updating them to the 2015.
And | know Bill McKinney, Nashua’s building inspector, is very concerned about that, and as we all should be.
We need to update our codes. When is a good time to be able to have meetings so that we can bring together
the Aldermen and the State delegation to have a conversation, so when we go up there we can stand united and
say this is a city issue and we need to bring it forward as a city issue? | would like to be able to help in that
cause. So that’s just for me. As for day and time, maybe the holiday had an effect on this particular meeting.
Sometimes it’s easier in the morning. I’ve seen more people get together in the morning around breakfast time.
But again, | think as the weather gets nicer, it’s easier later, but | still think that earlier is sometimes better.

President McCarthy

I’ll address a couple of things you said. With regard to things like the bill on building codes, we’ve had a lot of
discussion about what the role of the Board of Aldermen should be in State legislation. And in fact, on most of
the things that deal with departments, we actually trust those opinions to our professionals. | would encourage
the delegation to meet with the building code officials. In fact, we have the same issue with the city clerk’s office
often. We have the same issue with the assessor's office, because there are lots of bills that come up every term
that are highly technical. For the most part, we would rather have the staff give you expert opinions than us give
you our opinions. It’s the policy bills that we’re concerned with. From that perspective, it’s mostly about the
money. If | go back and look at where we are now versus where we were 20-30 years ago, we were originally
promised $20 million in a grant to build the CTE program at the high schools; we never saw a nickel of it. We
were promised 30% reimbursement on the principle of the bonds to build the two high schools; we might have
seen 15% some years, often we saw nothing. The downshifted costs and the things where we made a decision
based on what the funding was going to be and it then dried up have shifted a tremendous burden on to the city.
The retirement system, as we talked about, there is probably $30 million plus today that wouldn’t have been
there had things stayed the same as they were when we made those decisions. We're pretty good at working
around that and not blowing the tax rate, while paying for that ever-growing burden. But those are the things, |
think, that affect us the most.

The other one, as was mentioned, is rail. It would be great to get help from the State, but under the current
circumstance of us having a Memorandum of Understanding with the Boston Service Rail Transit, | guess |
would ask that the State not get in the way of a solution we found on our own. And | am very concerned that
could happen.

Representative MacKay

| hope that does not happen. | concur. We absolutely need to have rail.

President McCarthy

We found a solution that may not be optimal but it is better than every other one in that it may come to fruition.
The guys that are looking at it are doing Worcester to Providence now, they’re looking at Bedford to Lowell for
us, and then they’re going to look at Lowell down to Worcester eventually, which will give us some very good
access to places we don’t currently have access to. I’m happy about that. My concern is that if the Rail Transit
Authority, as it is, gets in the middle of that and makes decisions that it thinks are for the greater good that mess
up that arrangement, I’d be very disappointed with that having been the final outcome of the work we’ve done.

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Representative MacKay

| think | would be too.
Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja

Representative MacKay, | totally appreciate the difficulty with evening meetings, but | will say some of us have
day jobs, and night meetings are what we do. You’re right, | get it. It’s really difficult to try and get people to
come together. We probably would have had a better representation. Again, | think a lot of tonight’s issue is the
holiday. | concur. Sometimes it’s really easier to have people at night. It’s just hard to choose.

Senator Lasky

| have a question: Do we have a liaison anymore with the legislature from the city? | don’t believe so.

President McCarthy

| don’t know. Ms. Kleiner can probably address who is there from the Mayor's office. We have actually got our
legislative assistant, one of her duties now is to take care of that for the Board. We actually send her up to testify
at hearings.

Senator Lasky

And it is more of the communication between the city and the legislation that’s coming forward. The other thing, |
know in the past we used to have a meeting with the department heads and the delegation, where they would
get into specific bills. | think that’s always very helpful. | think where we have newer Aldermen and we're in the
middle of a legislative session, we don’t have anyone in the Legislature is brand new. But | believe there are a lot
of people who have not been to various departments, not seen a lot of the agencies and a lot of the people that
we work with, and that is really important.

The last thing | want to say is that we are sent to Concord by the people of Nashua, and in some cases the other
center is the surrounding area. Too often, | have seen our representatives put their leadership first, their party
first, and many other things before the citizens of this city and the people who have sent them to represent them.
That is the hardest thing. If we stuck together — when it arises, yes, there will always be a few, but when we know
that our city and the people in our city are going to benefit from certain things and we say no because someone
else is breathing down our necks for a parking place or a chairmanship or some other ridiculous thing, than none
of us deserve to be representing the citizens of this city.

Representative Mangipudi

Just to acknowledge that this session particularly, as a rep, | did get a lot of information and support from the City
Hall and the Mayor's office. Several times | would be on the floor and this is going this way, the bill is in and this
is how it’s going to affect Nashua; dollars, as well as in terms of policy. It was very, very helpful, even though we
don't have a particular liaison, to get that information and share it with the Nashua delegation there, at least the
people that are sitting around. So they were very helpful, and | think these meetings, at the end of the day we
are still social beings. As much as we can live off of Facebook and social media, at the end of the day, meeting
in flesh and blood makes all the difference, because you put the humanness into this. So thank you for keeping
this consistent and it means a lot to me to represent the voices of my constituents and also as a city where my
home is.

Ms. Kleiner, Chief of Staff

We did have a liaison, Derek Danielson, from the city. Derek has left the city unfortunately. What we have been
working with, with our IT department, is an automated process where the city can download all of the bills, where
they are, and send those out to our division directors to get information back from them; like Alderman McCarthy
was saying, to get that expert advice on bills. Last year, we sent emails to the delegation. We got a lot of
feedback on that, yet it was too tedious of a spreadsheet. | think at that time it had over 100 bills on it that we

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were tracking through committee. This year, we expect it to be much more streamlined, and we expect those
emails to start going out shortly. Certainly, there are some bills at the city that we’re discussing already. We've
had quite a bit of discussion on SB 193 in the Mayor’s office and with the Superintendent, but those delegation
emails will go out shortly once we get the automated process back from our division directors.

President McCarthy

As | said, | have a legislative manager. We did just hire a new transcriptionist, by the way, so some of her time is
freed up. But one of her responsibilities is to work on at least the policy bills for the Board. So we'll do that.

| also want to point out, there was a discussion about the department heads, one of the things we do when there
is a big turnover in the Board of Aldermen is to have orientation sessions in the early part of the term and have
the department heads come in and talk. So while | want to keep that focused on the Board of Aldermen, I’d be
happy to let the delegation know when that is and they’re welcome to come and listen to what happens.

Representative MacKay

| also want to say | believe some of the representatives have participated in the Citizens Academy. | think I’ve
seen some of you there. And | know people had very positive feedback about that also, as a way to learn more
about the city.

President McCarthy

It's along program though.

Representative MacKay

It is, but | know that some people commented they felt it was well worth it.
Alderman O’Brien

I’d like to compliment this administration, because being in the House for 8-10 years, | think I’ve gone to much
more delegation meetings already than | have in the past. So | strongly encourage that. But again, let’s look at
the House. There’s 400 of us; people can write a bill, that’s 400 bills. They write two bills and that’s 800.
[INAUDIBLE] So which ones are really the particular, and | appreciate that. And if you have something sort of
streamlined that’s brilliant, share it with the State. But the thing is, we should really just focus on what’s going to
be important to us.

And I'd like to follow-up with that streamlining. If you can put opinion — people go to vote by what they are entitled
to vote. But if the city comes out with an opinion on how it affects the city, they can weigh the balance to the
representative, to kind of help them make that particular choice. Because, yes, unfortunately, it would be nice if
everybody voted in Nashua, but sometimes people do get leaned on and different things like that. | would like to
have, within an email or something like that, the net perspective to it. That that representative can weigh the
balance and say, no, I’m a Nashuaan first, I’ve got to go with the way it should really be. So | would like to see
that, as a contact. | kind of understand everybody here with the delegation. We're very careful with the municipal
on our emails and everything else, but I’m sure everybody that’s in the State delegation sees what gets out there
in the State emails. | don’t know if they ever heard of the Right-to-Know law. But it’s a form of communication
that we could get from that from the city that could bring that in, and you can send it to the whole delegation, |
think we could really weigh the balance on where that would go. That’s really going to help us. [INAUDIBLE] If
we don’t have a contact person that is up to the contact, it would be nice to have the email beforehand to
research. And | understand the Alderman’s work who’s going to be doing this. Like | said, if everybody writes two
bills, there’s 800 bills right there. The next number is coming over from percentages.

The other thing is crossover time, to pay particular attention to that. That’s when the bills from the House will go
over to the Senate and we will now receive the Senate’s version, which will be a whole different format of bills,
maybe new stuff that we weren't really watching from the House side. So that would be equally important there
too.

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ADJOURNMENT

MOTION BY ALDERMAN DOWD TO ADJOURN
MOTION CARRIED

The meeting was declared adjourned at 8:50 p.m.

Patricia D. Piecuch
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SPECIAL BOARD OF ALDERMEN

NOVEMBER 20, 2017
7:00 PM

PRESIDENT BRIAN S. MCCARTHY CALLS ASSEMBLY TO ORDER PRAYER
OFFERED BY CITY CLERK PATRICIA D. PIECUCH

PLEDGE TO THE FLAG LED BY ALDERMAN TOM LOPEZ

ROLL CALL

COMMUNICATIONS

From: Brian S. McCarthy, President, Board of Aldermen
Re: Special Board of Aldermen Meeting

ADJOURNMENT

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