Board of Aldermen 08-13-2019 Page 9
Fred Teeboom 24 Cheyenne. First of all welcome back Alderman Gidge, | hope you feel much better. |
wish to talk about R-19-159. Unlike any of you in this horseshoe except for Attorney Bolton, | attended the
Board of Tax & Land Appeals meeting last week. No one on that Board asked for a list and measures.
They did mention the list and measure but they questioned whether that should take 3 years. They said if
you take it, you should do it in 1 year. That’s important, because things change. Things change, so why
take 3 years? If you do it, it should be done in 1 year. And that’s because of great inaccuracies, there is a
sticky thing called the 4" Amendment of US Constitution that says that Government cannot come into your
home without Due Process. So a lot of people don’t let you into their home. Now who doesn't let you into
their home? The very people that don’t apply for permits. The very people that make changes to their
homes inside that no one can see.
An assessor is not allowed to come on the lawn; they are not allowed to look even in the back. They can
do some overflights. But the people who violate the Code Enforcement Laws are not going to allow you
into their homes. So the whole List & Measure is a phony, not demanded by the Board of Tax & Land
Appeals and the stuff that Attorney Bolton said about presumptive measures or proactive measures doesn’t
apply. The Board of Tax & Land Appeals will come out with their decision and they may make whatever
they decide to do in order, whatever Nashua has to do. Nashua has to run a full revaluation in the year
2022; every 5 years. There are a lot of problems in Nashua. The Department of Revenue Administration
brought a stack of paper this tall that Attorney Bolton hasn’t seen; they called a recess to review the
documentation. It looks like there are a lot of complaints against the City, probably the way Angela Marina
ran the office, because it is neighborhood by neighborhood assessments there are probably a lot of
problems with that.
Hundreds if not over a thousand errors were pointed out by Ms. Ortolano in a thick report that she
discussed before the Board of Tax & Land Appeals and about an hour and a half of discussion. Hour and a
half of presentation that will be taken under advisement by the Board of Tax & Land Appeals. Whatever
they decide, Nashua will have to follow. This $1.3 million you are spending is a complete waste, it
accomplishes nothing. Alderman Clemons nailed it, what does it do? Does it establish a fair assessment?
At the Budget Committee Alderman Dowd said it is not going to prevent a fair assessment. Of course it is
not going to prevent a fair system. People who will let you into their homes it is not going to be a fair
system. You have to do a statistical evaluation. | believe the whole Mall is in question. | haven’t looked at
the statistics on the Mall. It takes 10 votes from the Full Board; | think you are missing two members or so,
so it is going to take 9 members to pass this Resolution. | hope you don’t have 9 members to pass this
Resolution. Thank you.
Kim Kleiner Good Evening Members of the Board. | realize that this is probably a little abnormal but | am
here tonight to represent myself and members of your Assessing Department, your Assessors. These are
your experts. These are our experts. We would like to address some of the inaccuracies that have been
stated. | would like to start with a preface: We the Nashua Assessors offer this response out of concern to
the allegations made my Miss Laurie and Mr. Michael Ortolano because we believe that certain documents
that were sent to you on August 11" and to the Board of Assessors contain inaccuracies, misinformation,
falsehoods, unsupported data and gross assumptions that would otherwise negatively influence this
Honorable Board of Aldermen, the Nashua Taxpayers and the General Public. | would like to address some
of these.
A Full Measure & List is not required by the State of New Hampshire. That is what was stated. As the
Board already knows, the City has wanted to conduct a Full Measure & List for some time, since none have
been conducted in almost 30 years. Although not required by law, the International Association of
Assessing Officials Guideline recommends a Full Measure & List every 9 years. This is their guideline.
Also we'd like to note that Ms. Ortolano produced a 62 page document that she produced to the Board of
Tax & Land Appeals. Page 62 and | quote, “] want to emphasize that by itself the List & Measure, though
needed, will not restore trust and do away with all the problems. Indeed it my exacerbate some, though
needed” she quotes. And | have copies of this Memorandum both on the back table and for you this
evening. The City should wait to move forward on the Full Measure & List until the results of Mr. Cornell’s
review are issued, that is what has been stated.
